Woman killed by two bull mastiffs in Galway

freshpopcorn · 04-06-2017 10:23PM

notjustsweet wrote: »

Why are you talking about pitbulls?

When this story was reported first articles said it was pit bulls. That's where confusing came into it.

steddyeddy · 04-06-2017 10:23PM

RustyNut wrote: »

If so should have been controlled by a decent responsible owner.

You keep implying the owner wasn't decent. Can you back that up?

Mena Mitty · 04-06-2017 10:27PM

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Where can I find the dangerous dog list?

This might help it's a list of breeds that need to be muzzled when in public.

the_syco · 04-06-2017 10:27PM

Ninjavampire wrote: »

These type of tragedies always bring in the dog defenders blaming the owners straight away. It's like buying automatic rifles in walmart, people go on that they aren't dangerous, just the nut jobs who use them to shoot innocent people.

Are you saying, if left on a shelf, the gun will still shoot people?

steddyeddy · 04-06-2017 10:31PM

Can we actually sit down and have a debate about this at some stage. I believe that it's logical that some breed of dog are more prone to aggression than others. If you believe that different dog breeds have different temperaments then it's ridiculous to rule out propensity to attack strangers as one of them.

steddyeddy · 04-06-2017 10:37PM

Donal55 wrote: »

Your right. They're only dangeeous in the UK and the USA.
This breed of dog wouldn't attack anyone here in Ireland.
My apologies.

Ah it could have been an American dog on his holibobs in Ireland. You didn't think of that did you?

04-06-2017 10:40PM

Shocking news.

Long long jail sentence for the owners hopefully, along with proper enforcement of the Control of Dogs acts, enforcement of muzzling etc. But it's incidental right now, a woman has lost her life and that should be the focus, and the fallout considered in due course.

Atlantic Dawn · 04-06-2017 10:44PM

Perfectly strong laws in place already to control these dogs, clearly the owner didn't give a flying fook.

Diabhal Beag · 04-06-2017 10:48PM

A lot could come out of this story. That's all I can say knowing the parties. Really awful and avoidable situation.

Spanish Eyes · 04-06-2017 10:49PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Perfectly strong laws in place already to control these dogs, clearly the owner didn't give a flying fook.

That may be true, but enforcement - as with many laws, such as driving in a bus lane is rubbish these days.

Chancer3001 · 04-06-2017 10:52PM

D3V!L wrote: »

So are golden labs, they're responsible for more attacks on family members than any other dogs. Strangely they don't get any bad press.

I have an Am-staff cross and he's the most pleasant dog you could come across.

Woah. Have you any evidence for that claim????

04-06-2017 10:52PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Perfectly strong laws in place already to control these dogs, clearly the owner didn't give a flying fook.

Very little enforcement though, the only times I see the dogs are when they are in public areas, often without a leash, always without a muzzle. A whopping penalty would send out the right message, but again it's a discussion that should be held on another day, right now the thoughts should be with the victim.

steddyeddy · 04-06-2017 10:54PM

My thoughts also with the victim. That must have been a horrible way to die.

RustyNut · 04-06-2017 10:54PM

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Woah. Have you any evidence for that claim????

Here you go.

The dog most likely to attack has been revealed and it may come as a surprise.

The family favourite labrador is responsible for the highest number of canine attack personal injury claims, according to research by pet insurers Animal Friends.

And man's best friend is often postman's worst enemy with allmost a third of incidents involving delivery workers and postal staff.

steddyeddy · 04-06-2017 10:57PM

RustyNut wrote: »

Here you go.

So either a genetic factor in the aggresion or lab owners are generally irresponsible.

borderlinemeath · 04-06-2017 10:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Very little enforcement though, the only times I see the dogs are when they are in public areas, often without a leash, always without a muzzle. A whopping penalty would send out the right message, but again it's a discussion that should be held on another day, right now the thoughts should be with the victim.

It has zero relevance to this situation though, as dogs aren't required to be muzzled when they're on their own property. There's badly socialised dogs left languishing in gardens all over the country that would probably display aggressive tendencies if approached by a stranger, but as they're on their own property they're not breaking any laws.

Atlantic Dawn · 04-06-2017 10:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Very little enforcement though, the only times I see the dogs are when they are in public areas, often without a leash, always without a muzzle. A whopping penalty would send out the right message, but again it's a discussion that should be held on another day, right now the thoughts should be with the victim.

I see people with rottweilers and german shephards walking them without lead and without muzzel every time I walk the local beach, as you say zero enforcement.

PucaMama · 04-06-2017 10:58PM

I'll never understand people's fascination with having a go at the pit bull terrier. Even when's it's not pit bulls, it is. And it's well known that labs bite more often. People see labs as these gentle sweet dogs but they still have teeth, still weigh at least 2x what a pit could weigh and thanks to the puppy farms in Ireland can have seriously unstable temperments. I love labradors I had them growing up but the difference in the dogs then to now is unbelievable.

freshpopcorn · 04-06-2017 11:00PM

RustyNut wrote: »

Here you go.

That doesn't really surprise me one little bit. There a lot more Labradors for starters compared to dogs such as mastiffs/pitbulls but when a Labrador bits you. You have a good chance of regaining controlling but when dogs on the restricted dog lists bit you. You have less of a chance because of how powerful they are.

Allinall · 04-06-2017 11:00PM

D3V!L wrote: »

So are golden labs, they're responsible for more attacks on family members than any other dogs. Strangely they don't get any bad press.

I have an Am-staff cross and he's the most pleasant dog you could come across.

Load of bollox.

micar · 04-06-2017 11:04PM

The poor woman. RIP

Have never seen the fascination with these types of dogs......purely status dogs.

Am happy out with the golden cocker spaniel and the red setter we have within the family.

Chancer3001 · 04-06-2017 11:05PM

RustyNut wrote: »

Here you go.

Did you read the report??

Alsatians

Pit bulls

Cookies

Labradors

In that order.....

Dirty Dingus McGee · 04-06-2017 11:05PM

We have a bull mastiff.She's a complete eeijit and a really nice dog. Although when she was younger she was a little difficult with our other dogs (as she lived alone with my sister) now that we've had her for 4 years with our other dogs she is well socialised and is a fun happy dog.Almost every single large dog can be dangerous because they can be very strong and bull mastiff are very strong dogs.

Almost every single case of these types of attacks you see the dogs have been mistreated and not properly used to people.It's almost always the owners fault.

NIMAN · 04-06-2017 11:06PM

Sad that the owner could well be the son or daughter of the deceased.

Imagine having to live with yourself if your dogs just mauled your mum to death?

SeamusG97 · 04-06-2017 11:06PM

casscass4444 wrote: »

It was 2 bull mastiff dogs according to the article and people are already on the band wagon shouting about pit bulls.half the people ranting about pit bulls wouldn't know one from a boxer which coincidentally is a closer relation to a mastiff then a pit bull is.
The only reason pit bull dogs ever got a bad reputation was because of the absolute idiots that keep them and train them to be people aggressive and enforce their hard man image. The dog is a victim of this.guaranteed if you got a pit bull pup in the morning and reared it in a stable loving environment it would turn out to be just fine.
Not the dogs fault if it's reared by scum bag idiots.
The history of the pit bull is as a fighting dog and therefore animal aggressive if properly trained the same as a gun dog is a natural retriever and swimmer if trained and the fact that the dogs had to be handled during the fights meant that they were not people aggressive through selective breeding.

Simple Question - as the owner of two Cocker Spaniels who wouldn't know how to bite you if you tried to cut their ears off and we love them to death. Why does anybody want to own an aggressive dog no matter what breed - Seriously what is the attraction of having one of these dogs as a pet? I can understand guard dogs and all that but just why?

RustyNut · 04-06-2017 11:06PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

So either a genetic factor in the aggresion or lab owners are generally irresponsible.

I think that it shows that its the owners breeding rather than the dog's breed that counts.

xzanti · 04-06-2017 11:07PM

I know a guy who has a pit-bull. This guy is HUGE himself and he said the only way to open it's jaws if it attacks, is to stick his finger up the dogs ass.

I kid you not.

Apparently he had to put this into practice one day when it attacked someone else's dog.

Condolences to the poor woman's family. Very sad.

njs030 · 04-06-2017 11:08PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

That doesn't really surprise me one little bit. There a lot more Labradors for starters compared to dogs such as mastiffs/pitbulls but when a Labrador bits you. You have a good chance of regaining controlling but when dogs on the restricted dog lists bit you. You have less of a chance because of how powerful they are.

Do you know a lab is almost twice the weight of a pitbull?
When a pitbull gets into a fight if you break their concentration its over. When a lab starts fighting they don't stop until they are done.
I'd rather break up 2 pitbulls fighting than 2 labs any day!.

njs030 · 04-06-2017 11:10PM

SeamusG97 wrote: »

Simple Question - as the owner of two Cocker Spaniels who wouldn't know how to bite you if you tried to cut their ears off and we love them to death. Why does anybody want to own an aggressive dog no matter what breed - Seriously what is the attraction of having one of these dogs as a pet? I can understand guard dogs and all that but just why?

You tell us, you own dogs that are the third most likely to attack, above any on the restricted breed list.

bilbot79 · 04-06-2017 11:11PM

D3V!L wrote: »

So are golden labs, they're responsible for more attacks on family members than any other dogs. Strangely they don't get any bad press.

I have an Am-staff cross and he's the most pleasant dog you could come across.

All dogs are pleasant to their own pack and some are often vicious to people outside of the pack. Usually it's pit bulls or something similar that do this and they unfortunately always defended by owners of similar animals who can safely swear that their own pit bull has a lovely gentle nature. Don't believe the bull, it's an attack dog. Owning one, revering the breed, in my view is negligent.

Woman killed by two bull mastiffs in Galway

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