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The Grass Measuring Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    They may have just take a gamble on rain coming, have they silage ground to graze if they get tight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,304 ✭✭✭alps


    Mooooo wrote: »
    They may have just take a gamble on rain coming, have they silage ground to graze if they get tight?

    If there's silage on the platform, that farm is understocked, underutilized.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    'Platform' is sooo last year. The best dairy farmers collectively refer to their cow paddocks as the grazing 'plinth.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Dwag


    Muckit wrote: »
    'Platform' is sooo last year. The best dairy farmers collectively refer to their cow paddocks as the grazing 'plinth.'

    Lmao!

    Brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Signpost


    I know its not a very relevant figure but how do you calculate fresh weight per ha of silage? So I weighed a field and it was 650g so working it out at 17% dm I have 4420 kg dm /ha - but how many tonnes of grass going into the pit does this equate to?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭ted_182


    Signpost wrote: »
    I know its not a very relevant figure but how do you calculate fresh weight per ha of silage? So I weighed a field and it was 650g so working it out at 17% dm I have 4420 kg dm /ha - but how many tonnes of grass going into the pit does this equate to?

    4420 divided by .17 equals 26000 kgs fresh weight grass per ha or 26 tons

    26 diveded by 2.471 equals 10.52 tons fresh weight per acre


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Signpost


    Thanks a million, I spent far too long trying to figure that out rather than just asking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    There's a manager and then a cowhand.
    I know they have "advisors" too but at the end of the day it's up to the manager.
    Or I am I mistaken?

    Time will tell I suppose whether it was the right decision.
    Nobody died I suppose anyway.:p

    It's a good decision now after the rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    As of tonight we've mowed 50% of the total farm. It's either in the pit or bales with 28% on the deck for baling tomorrow afternoon. Has to be one of the most perfect grass years to date. We've 6 tonne grown on the MP as of today.

    Happy with that and a load of hi quality bales in the stack. Can't beat measuring IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    It's a good decision now after the rain

    I was looking at that post and for a few seconds I thought someone else was after using my boards name. :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭ted_182


    As of tonight we've mowed 50% of the total farm. It's either in the pit or bales with 28% on the deck for baling tomorrow afternoon. Has to be one of the most perfect grass years to date. We've 6 tonne grown on the MP as of today.

    Happy with that and a load of hi quality bales in the stack. Can't beat measuring IMO.

    Phuck me il be lucky to have six tonne grown by end of june. What things have you learned over time to be achieving high tonnes the way ye do? Obviously measuring important but many of us who do still cant get near that level of growth? Is it fertilisation, Grass varity, Sr, location?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    As of tonight we've mowed 50% of the total farm. It's either in the pit or bales with 28% on the deck for baling tomorrow afternoon. Has to be one of the most perfect grass years to date. We've 6 tonne grown on the MP as of today.

    Happy with that and a load of hi quality bales in the stack. Can't beat measuring IMO.

    5.84 tonne up to Sunday. Similar to yourself, half overall farm mowed , baled and pit,but only 20% of the mp baled. Stocked at 4.4 and doing a full round of premowing this round. Hit solids slightly but litres have held. Need to get the stubble down as residuals were creeping up to 300, legacy of poor graze outs during wet weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Dissapointed this round grass grew a stem on me after what i thought were good cleanouts, yield and protein took a hit, yield back up now but will be topping after a few paddocks and also putting a number of paddocks into pit, will temp increase stocking rate to 5,. I assume a bit of 'drought' stress followed by rapid growth brought on the extra stem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    How is everyone managing these high growth rates struggling to keep pregrazing covers right. Cows are in aftergrass from baling 12 days ago which is 1700 already. We have grown 2 ton in the last 2 weeks here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    How is everyone managing these high growth rates struggling to keep pregrazing covers right. Cows are in aftergrass from baling 12 days ago which is 1700 already. We have grown 2 ton in the last 2 weeks here

    I guess up stocking rate and stagger the cutting and cut straight away instead of building cover on them so that if growth slows the whole lot won't be out at the same time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    30% of the grazing area being mowed today. Baled this evening. No prospect of wilting. Rain forecast for overnight. Not sure if I'm taking out enough tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    30% of the grazing area being mowed today. Baled this evening. No prospect of wilting. Rain forecast for overnight. Not sure if I'm taking out enough tbh.

    Cutting 20% here knocked this moring, should have knocked it yesterday, will be baled around 8 this evening.
    Savage growth, keeping quality is the issue now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Well if that's what you are thinking, then you really do need to take out another paddock. Should be nearly scared taking out stuff.

    It is peak grass growth time though and in my limited experience, you'll always regret taking out too little than too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Muckit wrote: »
    Well if that's what you are thinking, then you really do need to take out another paddock. Should be nearly scared taking out stuff.

    It is peak grass growth time though and in my limited experience, you'll always regret taking out too little than too much.

    I know but 30% is a lot. Cutting second cut in next ten days so if I under shoot I'll get to take up the slack then. We've all only got limited experience of this type of management muckit and no two years are the same. We made very few bales last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    30% of the grazing area being mowed today. Baled this evening. No prospect of wilting. Rain forecast for overnight. Not sure if I'm taking out enough tbh.

    Cut out more
    Drive till you run out of diesel or it looks like cows won't have grass by Tues.
    I've never seem consistent growth like this


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    It's great day here grass was wet when it was cut this morning, lads just after raking unbelievable how's it's dried in a few hours. I could be on a 14 day round and covers would be still going strong.
    I should have been a bit braver 10 days ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    When ye say ye have cut x% of the mp, what stocking rate would that put ye at at that point in time? Take 2 cuts of silage off furthest fields here so normally at 4.2 for all summer. Week ahead looks broken I'd say most bales will be cut and bales the one day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Cut out more
    Drive till you run out of diesel or it looks like cows won't have grass by Tues.
    I've never seem consistent growth like this

    Ended up at around 40% and I'm still not sure if I should have gone another bit. To answer mooo it doesn't change sr at all. It was all available to graze this morning technically and all back in the rotation tomorrow morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Acting fast enough is the area I need to improve on and as ye say taking out a bit more than you think you should do was just asking how far would ye push it I guess. Was planning on pitting some but given forecast I'd it'll be bales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Acting fast enough is the area I need to improve on and as ye say taking out a bit more than you think you should do was just asking how far would ye push it I guess. Was planning on pitting some but given forecast I'd it'll be bales

    We measure Mon am and Thurs am in this growth. We then now based on these results. Aim to keep cover sub 150 per cow.

    Sr doesn't change as all MP is counted and available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    ted_182 wrote: »
    Phuck me il be lucky to have six tonne grown by end of june. What things have you learned over time to be achieving high tonnes the way ye do? Obviously measuring important but many of us who do still cant get near that level of growth? Is it fertilisation, Grass varity, Sr, location?

    Land type, can graze any day
    Soil Fertility. We are anal about p&k, lime and in particular compaction. I was reared growing sugar beet, wheat and barley so got a great grounding in soil care and health.

    The big one is the grazing management and the number of grazings per paddock. We do not agree with the 10 April for end of first round, it's too late. We aim the be started second round by end of March usually 26-29th.

    This can lead to a bumpy ride in second round but we will feed bales at this te and it's usually a short period.

    Number of grazings per paddock I'd critical IMO. We are on grazing no5 and some are on no6. We won't lock up any long term silage on MP, rather maintain St at about 3.8-4. I don't get the point of closing 29% long term feeding extra nuts to milkers trying to maintain a high sr in order to make silage for dry cows.

    Lastly, a healthy level of debt helps to concentrate the mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Iv paddocks gone strongish, which is worse chancing a wilt and getting rain. Or bringing in a couple of hours after mowing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Land type, can graze any day
    Soil Fertility. We are anal about p&k, lime and in particular compaction. I was reared growing sugar beet, wheat and barley so got a great grounding in soil care and health.

    The big one is the grazing management and the number of grazings per paddock. We do not agree with the 10 April for end of first round, it's too late. We aim the be started second round by end of March usually 26-29th.

    This can lead to a bumpy ride in second round but we will feed bales at this te and it's usually a short period.

    Number of grazings per paddock I'd critical IMO. We are on grazing no5 and some are on no6. We won't lock up any long term silage on MP, rather maintain St at about 3.8-4. I don't get the point of closing 29% long term feeding extra nuts to milkers trying to maintain a high sr in order to make silage for dry cows.

    Lastly, a healthy level of debt helps to concentrate the mind.

    Do you use a strip wire when do No 5/6 grazings? Or just keep a bit at the back to settle them for last grazing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,808 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    visatorro wrote: »
    Iv paddocks gone strongish, which is worse chancing a wilt and getting rain. Or bringing in a couple of hours after mowing?

    Mow it and bale it later ,Tedd it if u can


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Do you use a strip wire when do No 5/6 grazings? Or just keep a bit at the back to settle them for last grazing?


    I'd say it more like 5/6 grazing since start of year ?


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