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12 years for ex-shinner

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    #2
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    And now the weather.

    It's raining.


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    #3
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Good enough for him, scumbag.


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    #4
    Atoms for Peace
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    Gardai only discovered what the Dowdalls had done a year later when they searched the Dowdalls’ Dublin home on March 9, 2016 for a separate reason and found a video of the incident on a USB stick.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOn-MnSldFE


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    #5
    Mr. Incognito
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    You act like a thug you get treated like a thug.


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    Riddle101
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    I'm glad justice is being served to these scumbags, but honestly how stupid can you be to video tape the whole thing. Does the word incriminate mean anything to these guys?


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    pilly
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    Riddle101 wrote: »
    I'm glad justice is being served to these scumbags, but honestly how stupid can you be to video tape the whole thing. Does the word incriminate mean anything to these guys?

    They obviously thought it would be great craic to show it around to their Shinner mates.


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    gifted
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    A Good Thursday agreement....


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    FrancieBrady
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    pilly wrote: »
    They obviously thought it would be great craic to show it around to their Shinner mates.

    Surely he would have remained a member if he wanted to do that?


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    Yamanoto
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    Remember some of Aengus O'Snodaighs own supporters were caught with fake Garda uniforms, balaclavas, cs gas & stun guns. No printer ink mind.

    At one or two removes from Sinn Fein's elected representatives, things have a habit of becoming pretty fcuking grim among their cabal of goons and lackeys.

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    freshpopcorn
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    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/jerry-mccabe-killing-returns-to-haunt-sinn-fein-381733.html

    “Jerry McCabe was shot dead by Pearse McAuley and Kevin Walsh,” said Mr Kearney. “Martin Ferris collected them from jail in 2009 when they were freed and his Sinn Féin colleagues backed him for this sickening display of support for people who brutally gunned down a decent garda going about his duty.


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    sbsquarepants
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    This has got to count as one of the weirdest stories I've ever come across.

    Vigilante waterboarding of would be conman recorded for posterity. Fúck me!


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    Spanish Eyes
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    No skin in the game and I have absolutely no sympathy sorry.

    But when you see the derisory sentences for other things like child abuse and so on, you would wonder.

    Anyway.


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    Jobs OXO
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    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Remember some of Aengus O'Snodaighs own supporters were caught with fake Garda uniforms, balaclavas, cs gas & stun guns. No printer ink mind.

    At one or two removes from Sinn Fein's elected representatives, things have a habit of becoming pretty fcuking grim among their cabal of goons and lackeys.

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    Mary Lou is now morbidly obese. Surely she should be setting some example for the youth of the country ?


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    #15
    Birneybau
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    TBH I think he was just an idiot that got way in over his head. They're going to use this story as the basis for the next season of 'Fargo'


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    ToddyDoody
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    I have to say I'm happy with this result... Dragging down the good name of Sinn Fein with this type of behaviour is reprehensible IMHO.


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    pjohnson
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    The poor man. He shoulda tried saying he thought he was fighting Aliens from Krypton. He'd have got away with it.


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    rosser44
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    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I have to say I'm happy with this result... Dragging down the good name of Sinn Fein with this type of behaviour is reprehensible IMHO.

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    Where'd you think he learned how to torture and waterboard? Self confessed IRA member. The tape was probably for training purposes.


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    Syphonax
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    My opinion on Sinn Fein has softened in recent years to the point that ive actually considered voting for them (perhaps its just years of been dismayed with the other main parties) but this news of this waterboarding just goes to show their true colours and how they truly operate out of view of the cameras.


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    Spanish Eyes
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    I have no time for SF or their hangers on at all. Will always have a whiff of cordite about them and just beyond criminality etc. for me.

    But anyway, I cannot help but think that 12 years is a long sentence, when you think of rapists and child abusers and the devil and all getting much softer sentences that many a thread here comments on WRT to the leniency of sentencing.

    Seems a long sentence by comparison to me.

    Just thinking out loud here.


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    [Deleted User]
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    We should be proud to see the Irish justice system at its finest.


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    Spanish Eyes
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    Will be appealed.

    More costs for the taxpayer. They always win against those who pay for everything anyway.


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    FrancieBrady
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    rosser44 wrote: »
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    Where'd you think he learned how to torture and waterboard?

    From the videos of the double daring do gooder US and British invasion forces??


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    end of the road
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    Syphonax wrote: »
    My opinion on Sinn Fein has softened in recent years to the point that ive actually considered voting for them (perhaps its just years of been dismayed with the other main parties) but this news of this waterboarding just goes to show their true colours and how they truly operate out of view of the cameras.


    it shows nothing of the sort. this is nothing to do with sinn fein. sinn fein are still a very credible party and are the only ones who can now be trusted to run the country.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    Comhrá
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    end of the road wrote: »
    it shows nothing of the sort. this is nothing to do with sinn fein. sinn fein are still a very credible party and are the only ones who can now be trusted to run the country.


    If you say so, Gerry.


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    smurgen
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    Doesn't show sinn fein in a bad light. And if it does then surely enda kenny backing up a fine gael party member found guilty of glassing a man in a pub shows them in a bad light http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kenny-backs-accused-td-353182.html


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    I hate SF and the corrupt state equally

    12 years really?

    I don't know why SF bother they will never be let near power in this state


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    #28
    RabbleRouser2k
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    I felt he deserved his sentence--but, and I have to be careful here...Did anyone else think the other case, with the '5 years' sentence was FAR too lenient?
    Especially compared to his 12 years?

    But maybe that's just me?


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    [Deleted User]
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    No skin in the game and I have absolutely no sympathy sorry.

    But when you see the derisory sentences for other things like child abuse and so on, you would wonder.

    Anyway.

    the wrong way to look at it, the sentence is a good sentence, well deserved. other sentences may be too lenient, but they are the ones to comment on, ifykwim


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    Syphonax
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    end of the road wrote: »
    it shows nothing of the sort. this is nothing to do with sinn fein. sinn fein are still a very credible party and are the only ones who can now be trusted to run the country.

    Sinn Fein are a credible party but its a choice between blue collar and white collar crime and no one in their right mind wants the anarchy that would come with Sinn Fein in power.


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    Spanish Eyes
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    the wrong way to look at it, the sentence is a good sentence, well deserved. other sentences may be too lenient, but they are the ones to comment on, ifykwim

    Very rare that such a long sentence is applied to anything. Be real about it.

    Some life sentences amount to this. Although I know they are on "license" for life forever. This is not similar.

    Judges cannot be called out on their sentencing, except in the court of appeal. All very fine for you to say what you did, so my voice is mute, except for a rant on places like this really.

    What recourse does any joe or josie have really can you tell me.


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