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Oxford student who stabbed boyfriend could avoid jail cos of her future job

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  • 17-05-2017 3:39am
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    the_syco
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    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/oxford-student-who-stabbed-boyfriend-could-avoid-jail-because-of-her-extraordinary-talent/ar-BBBdhJd?li=AAadgLE
    The offence would normally carry a custodial sentence, but Judge Ian Pringle suggested she may be spared jail because of her academic record.

    He said: "It seems to me that if this was a one-off, a complete one-off, to prevent this extraordinary, able young lady from not following her long-held desire to enter the profession she wishes to, would be a sentence which would be too severe.
    The court heard how her boyfriend, who has not been identified, called Woodward's mum on Skype, and his then-girlfriend punched him in the face before picking up a bread knife and stabbing him in the leg.
    There's getting off light, and there's getting off scot-free. What a load of bo||ox; the b|tch has issues, and is getting away after stabbing someone.


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    eeguy
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    the_syco wrote: »
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/oxford-student-who-stabbed-boyfriend-could-avoid-jail-because-of-her-extraordinary-talent/ar-BBBdhJd?li=AAadgLE

    There's getting off light, and there's getting off scot-free. What a load of bo||ox; the b|tch has issues, and is getting away after stabbing someone.

    Very troubled life
    Drug addict
    Stabbed boyfriend

    Future heart surgeon:confused::confused:

    Can you work in the medical field if you're a drug addict?
    Hasn't she broken the hippocratic oath?
    Since her name is plastered all over the internet won't people know just by googling her?


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    RayM
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    eeguy wrote: »
    Can you work in the medical field if you're a drug addict?

    I don't see why not.

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    diomed
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    Future surgeon? She has made a start. Good knife work.


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    Canis Lupus
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    eeguy wrote: »
    Very troubled life
    Drug addict
    Stabbed boyfriend

    Future heart surgeon:confused::confused:

    Can you work in the medical field if you're a drug addict?
    Hasn't she broken the hippocratic oath?
    Since her name is plastered all over the internet won't people know just by googling her?

    She still has a conviction and that should prevent her from being a surgeon or at least the article I read seemed to suggest this.

    I don't really see the issue in giving her a chance tbh if she has turned herself about.


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    Junkyard Tom
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    This is precisely why we need more women in the judiciary.


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    Donald Trump
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    the_syco wrote: »
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/oxford-student-who-stabbed-boyfriend-could-avoid-jail-because-of-her-extraordinary-talent/ar-BBBdhJd?li=AAadgLE
    The offence would normally carry a custodial sentence, but Judge Ian Pringle suggested she may be spared jail because of her academic record.

    He said: "It seems to me that if this was a one-off, a complete one-off, to prevent this extraordinary, able young lady from not following her long-held desire to enter the profession she wishes to, would be a sentence which would be too severe.
    The court heard how her boyfriend, who has not been identified, called Woodward's mum on Skype, and his then-girlfriend punched him in the face before picking up a bread knife and stabbing him in the leg.
    There's getting off light, and there's getting off scot-free. What a load of bo||ox; the b|tch has issues, and is getting away after stabbing someone.


    Maybe she's hot deserves a second chance.


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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    eeguy wrote: »
    Very troubled life
    Drug addict
    Stabbed boyfriend

    Future heart surgeon:confused::confused:

    Can you work in the medical field if you're a drug addict?
    Hasn't she broken the hippocratic oath?
    Since her name is plastered all over the internet won't people know just by googling her?

    Didn't read anything about her being 'addicted'...? In any case, even if she is/was, addiction is not permanent.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    Donal55
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    This is precisely why we need more women in the judiciary.

    ....and as head of the police force.
    .....and as minister's for Justice.


    Oops.


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    Jawgap
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    Donal55 wrote: »
    ....and as head of the police force.
    .....and as minister's for Justice.


    Oops.

    Isn't the Chief Justice a woman too?


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    pjohnson
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    Yeah she was just fighting the patriachy. This generations answer to Mandela.

    Like 90% of females in court she had the "abused by ex-boyfriend" defence.


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    Ulysses Gaze
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    #GenderSentencingGap


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    FTA69
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    Not normally one for whataboutery but if it was a man stabbing his girlfriend he'd be vilified without question and used as an example by some feminists about the prevalence of domestic violence against women.


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    Baron Kurtz
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    Mr Pringle:)


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    biscuithead
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    There was another thread where people were clamouring for prison inmates to be worked half to death rather than sitting on their arses playing PS4 or whatever. The logic was that they should be "productive". These useless layabouts should be learning skills and providing a valuable service through their labour.

    Then we have similar people on here who are clamouring to have an aspiring surgeon thrown in jail and a would-be career as a medical professional in society destroyed.

    Yes, let's kill a career of 40 years as a surgeon in favour of a career in the pen digging ditches. When she gets out she can be a barmaid.

    Yes she knifed her boyfriend in the leg. I'm not condoning that. What are the full facts of the case? Was she mentally unsound at the time? Hormonal? Was he ever abusive to her? etc. etc.


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    biscuithead
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    Not normally one for whataboutery but if it was a man stabbing his girlfriend he'd be vilified without question and used as an example by some feminists about the prevalence of domestic violence against women.

    Why, when a valid comparison is made, it's called "whataboutery"?

    What is this stupid buzzword?

    Is that a new smear term to dismiss someone who exposes valid and undeniable double-standards?


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    Ulysses Gaze
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    biscuithead wrote: »
    There was another thread where people were clamouring for prison inmates to be worked half to death rather than sitting on their arses playing PS4 or whatever. The logic was that they should be "productive". These useless layabouts should be learning skills and providing a valuable service through their labour.

    Then we have similar people on here who are clamouring to have an aspiring surgeon thrown in jail and a would-be career as a medical professional in society destroyed.

    Yes, let's kill a career of 40 years as a surgeon in favour of a career in the pen digging ditches. When she gets out she can be a barmaid.

    Yes she knifed her boyfriend in the leg. I'm not condoning that. What are the full facts of the case? Was she mentally unsound at the time? Hormonal? Was he ever abusive to her? etc. etc.

    Do you think a man would get away without a custodial sentence if he argued the above?


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    biscuithead
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    Donal55 wrote: »
    ....and as head of the police force.
    .....and as minister's for Justice.


    Oops.

    Is the police force part of the judiciary?


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    biscuithead
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    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Do you think a man would get away without a custodial sentence if he argued the above?

    I'm sure there are plenty of cases where a man avoided a custodial sentence on the grounds of diminished responsibility, mental instability, self defence, if you care to search for them.


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    Strong Life in Dublin
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    biscuithead wrote: »
    There was another thread where people were clamouring for prison inmates to be worked half to death rather than sitting on their arses playing PS4 or whatever. The logic was that they should be "productive". These useless layabouts should be learning skills and providing a valuable service through their labour.

    Then we have similar people on here who are clamouring to have an aspiring surgeon thrown in jail and a would-be career as a medical professional in society destroyed.

    Yes, let's kill a career of 40 years as a surgeon in favour of a career in the pen digging ditches. When she gets out she can be a barmaid.

    Yes she knifed her boyfriend in the leg. I'm not condoning that. What are the full facts of the case? Was she mentally unsound at the time? Hormonal? Was he ever abusive to her? etc. etc.


    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, a violent attack should definitely revive jail time. We are not talking about someone getting wiht drugs, going to jail and having their life ruined over it.


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    jeanjolie
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    Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »
    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, a violent attack should definitely revive jail time. We are not talking about someone getting wiht drugs, going to jail and having their life ruined over it.

    Pointless...she won't learn from it. What good will putting her in jail do?

    Plus, I think she looks attractive and intelligent. Why in Gods name would anyone want to put her behind bars and destroy potential?


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    Dravokivich
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    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Pointless...she won't learn from it. What good will putting her in jail do?

    Plus, I think she looks attractive and intelligent. Why in Gods name would anyone want to put her behind bars and destroy potential?

    He fella was an aspiring sprinter. No good with a limp now is he. :rolleyes:


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    ahnowbrowncow
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    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Pointless...she won't learn from it. What good will putting her in jail do?

    Plus, I think she looks attractive and intelligent. Why in Gods name would anyone want to put her behind bars and destroy potential?

    She's too tall for you anyway.


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    BattleCorp
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    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Pointless...she won't learn from it. What good will putting her in jail do?

    Plus, I think she looks attractive and intelligent. Why in Gods name would anyone want to put her behind bars and destroy potential?

    :rolleyes:


    Ah yeah, she looks attractive and intelligent, let her away with it, sure why not.


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    Lux23
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    This is precisely why we need more women in the judiciary.

    It is awfully sexist but so many older gents see a young, pretty face and they melt.


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    blue note
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    This is just a repeat of the Brock Turner case. This girl would be better off in prison compared to the abuse she's about to get from social media and protesters about the leniency of this case. I expect by the end of the day my facebook feed will contain nothing but people who "can't even" because they can't stop thinking about all the assault victims and the message this sends out to them. Want to assault people? If you're extraordinary you can!


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    Lux23
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    Not normally one for whataboutery but if it was a man stabbing his girlfriend he'd be vilified without question and used as an example by some feminists about the prevalence of domestic violence against women.


    And is this not exactly what men in this thread are doing. They are perfectly within their rights to, so what is the problem?


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    TerrorFirmer
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    biscuithead wrote: »
    There was another thread where people were clamouring for prison inmates to be worked half to death rather than sitting on their arses playing PS4 or whatever. The logic was that they should be "productive". These useless layabouts should be learning skills and providing a valuable service through their labour.

    Then we have similar people on here who are clamouring to have an aspiring surgeon thrown in jail and a would-be career as a medical professional in society destroyed.

    Yes, let's kill a career of 40 years as a surgeon in favour of a career in the pen digging ditches. When she gets out she can be a barmaid.

    In this particular case, it seems logical that a judge might consider avoiding a custodial sentence as the return to society benefits that wider society.

    Not condoning her behavior at all but there is a wider picture in this very particular context.

    Highly specialised surgeons are invaluable. It's only natural that such a person would get preferential treatment over a 'normal' person, that's the truth of it really.


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    Carlos Orange
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    This is precisely why we need more women in the judiciary.

    I'm not sure that would make much difference. She likely would get privileged treatment just for a different reason if there was a female judge.


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    Korvanica
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    Isn't this what they call a "Pussy Pass" ?


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    BattleCorp
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    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    In this particular case, it seems logical that a judge might consider avoiding a custodial sentence as the return to society benefits that wider society.

    Not condoning her behavior at all but there is a wider picture in this very particular context.

    Highly specialised surgeons are invaluable. It's only natural that such a person would get preferential treatment over a 'normal' person, that's the truth of it really.

    It's a slippery slope when people start getting preferential treatment from the courts.


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