Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

ricero · 28-04-2017 10:04AM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Let us not forget that the same Klopp had us challenging for the league up until Christmas, playing the best football in the league, and having made a profit in transfers since he came to the club a year previous.

Injuries to key players have broken our season apart, no manager would have extended the squad with how little football we were due to play this year, instead he focused on quality of the first team and that has been a success, perhaps not buying anyone in January was a big risk but Klopp is'nt going to go out and spend money on players for the sake of it, anyone he buys he buys for the long term for the most part.
I would'nt change Klopp for any manager in world football at the moment.

My thoughts exactly there is no other manager i would want at this moment. Patience is hard to come by in modern day football but i see a clear direction with Klopp. Important summer for the club with or without champions league football. He must be backed well by the club and acquire top targets to strengthen the team

28-04-2017 10:08AM

If you can buy the likes of Klavan in the summer for small money I'm sure you can bring yourself to buy some squad filler in January or take a punt on a £15m winger that may or may not work out.

Especially when you are in profit from summer transfer window.

Doing so can be done without effecting your longterm plan etc etc.

NukaCola · 28-04-2017 10:08AM

Lovren as a backup is fine.....as well as Klavan.....

ricero · 28-04-2017 10:09AM

MD1990 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/857881770989060096

Not the best of timing announcing this deal.

No problem in keeping Lovren as part of the squad next year. Besides his brain farts against Palace last Sunday he has been solid all season. Defo keep him as a back up center half

NukaCola · 28-04-2017 10:11AM

Augeo wrote: »

If you can buy the likes of Klavan in the summer for small money I'm sure you can bring yourself to buy some squad filler in January or take a punt on a £15m winger that may or may not work out.

Especially when you are in profit from summer transfer window.

Doing so can be done without effecting your longterm plan etc etc.

Conversely, if you are willing (apparently) to spend 35M/50M on a midfielder and CB in the summer, surely similarly can be paid in January to secure your "top target" early.......

x43r0 · 28-04-2017 10:13AM

NukaCola wrote: »

Lovren as a backup is fine.....

ricero wrote: »

No problem in keeping Lovren as part of the squad next year. Defo keep him as a back up center half

What worries me is I get the feeling Klopp doesn't see him as just backup

ricero · 28-04-2017 10:13AM

Sakho injury not as bad as first feared. Only expected to miss a month of football

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-04-2017 10:14AM

NukaCola wrote: »

Conversely, if you are willing (apparently) to spend 35M/50M on a midfielder and CB in the summer, surely similarly can be paid in January to secure your "top target" early.......

Only if the club is willing to sell and has another available to replace the player they're selling.

It's easier in the summer than the winter to do that because of the longer window.

ricero · 28-04-2017 10:15AM

x43r0 wrote: »

What worries me is I get the feeling Klopp doesn't see him as just backup

Well if the rumors are true and we are in for Van Dijk it either suggest that Lovren will be dropped or klopp is going to revert to 3 at the back

NukaCola · 28-04-2017 10:17AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Only if the club is willing to sell and has another available to replace the player they're selling.

It's easier in the summer than the winter to do that because of the longer window.

Of course, the lack of any news of bids could mean we didn't even try though.......

28-04-2017 10:18AM

ricero wrote: »

.......... or klopp is going to revert to 3 at the back

Not a bad plan.
Puts Clyne on the bench though presumably as he doesn't offer enough going forward to play in a system with 3 CBs

NukaCola · 28-04-2017 10:20AM

x43r0 wrote: »

What worries me is I get the feeling Klopp doesn't see him as just backup

If he's not replaced in the summer as a starter I'd also start to worry

Agent Coulson · 28-04-2017 10:27AM

The new jersey really is lovely all that is missing is the Crown Paints sponsor.

murpho999 · 28-04-2017 10:28AM

ricero wrote: »

No problem in keeping Lovren as part of the squad next year. Besides his brain farts against Palace last Sunday he has been solid all season. Defo keep him as a back up center half

I hope this deal is just to secure a better fee for him in the summer.
Don't get how you can find him solid this season.

I'm convinced he's a major part of our defensive problems that spreads fear and hesitation to the rest of the defenders and keeper.
He's responsible for more goals this season that last Sunday

28-04-2017 10:34AM

murpho999 wrote: »

I hope this deal is just to secure a better fee for him in the summer. .............

I'd say not.
The Echo allude to it being a £100k/week deal and contracted until 2021 with the club having another year as an option.

Can't see him being overly attractive for some other club to buy him this summer really.

28-04-2017 10:36AM

Just on the 3 at the back theory............ if Matip was the most forward of the 3, he'd be CB/DM ish.

With Lovren and a better CB alongside him that might be a decent formation that facilitates our attacking play

NukaCola · 28-04-2017 10:38AM

100K a week but offer Alli 4K a week........the way we do transfers would make you crazy.

MD1990 · 28-04-2017 10:47AM

More crazy decision making from FSG.
But it has become the norm. Good business men but don't have a clue how to run a football club properly. We are overpaying on average players.

Our wages have risen more in the past few years than any other club despite apart from last summer having consistently very poor transfer windows.

Luckycharms_74 · 28-04-2017 10:49AM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Man City and United won't win all their remaining games. So if we win our last 4 we finish top 4. Pretty self explanatory really .

And I've already said given our run in we should be winning our last 4 .

Not self explanatory in your original post, hence my reply. There is nothing guaranteed to say we will win our last 4 and with Utd looking like a home win vs Swansea on Sunday it puts huge pressure on us to win Monday night.

You seem very sure that both city & utd wont win their games.

Its out of our hands now and that's the part I dread.

Harry Palmr · 28-04-2017 10:50AM

Should I mention that before the Palace game Liverpool had won 5 and drawn 2? The form was actually pretty good.

In other news - Rhian Brewster has been called up to the England U17s for the Euros this summer.

Big Lloyd Jones has been sent back in disgrace!

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15252091.Town_defender_Jones_arrested_hours_after_Port_Vale_defeat/

Two other ex Liverpool youth players also in hot water there.

NukaCola · 28-04-2017 11:01AM

That new jersey looks class. I wonder what number Reus will pick for the back of his one for next season.

Harry Palmr · 28-04-2017 11:06AM

Reus is just a more talented Daniel Sturridge.

NukaCola · 28-04-2017 11:15AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Reus is just a more talented Daniel Sturridge.

Shots fired!

googled eyes · 28-04-2017 11:23AM

Giving Lovren 100k a week is .......

I actually can't put into words how annoyed I am .

4 years , 100k a week. All the while seemingly stalling on Can's contract. People saying sure Lovren will only be back up. 100k is a lot to be paying a back up player, no ? I'd rather have shot him into the sun than offered him a contract

28-04-2017 11:24AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Should I mention that before the Palace game Liverpool had won 5 and drawn 2? The form was actually pretty good.
....

Already mentioned this morning, 17 pts in that 7 games between Jan/Feb slump & the palace game

28-04-2017 11:25AM

googled eyes wrote: »

Giving Lovren 100k a week is .......

I actually can't put into words how annoyed I am .

4 years , 100k a week. All the while seemingly stalling on Can's contract. People saying sure Lovren will only be back up. 100k is a lot to be paying a back up player, no ? I'd rather have shot him into the sun than offered him a contract

Yup, weird alright.
Can be looking for at least that now :pac:

klose · 28-04-2017 11:29AM

Lovren gets a 100k a week contract yet we are playing hardball over cans contract, it just begs belief tbh.

corwill · 28-04-2017 11:31AM

NukaCola wrote: »

That new jersey looks class. I wonder what number Reus will pick for the back of his one for next season.

3, if we're being traditional.

Harry Palmr · 28-04-2017 11:32AM

To be fair, Can seems to be more concerned about how he is utilised rather than money being the issue. - he wants to be a deep midfielder not a box to box type.

BullBlackNova · 28-04-2017 11:32AM

I'm not condoning giving Lovren a contract as such, but he's hardly the only issue with our defence.

Our issues have gone on for the best part of a decade. First it was Skrtel, then Rodgers was a problem. Sakho came in for heavy criticism (we conceded 148 goals in his three seasons) and since leaving he's the ****ing messiah. Now Lovren is the issue...

Lovren makes mistakes, yep, won't argue against that. I do think he's slightly better than some on here but, look, opinions, arseholes, etc.

But replacing him and making no other changes would accomplish the square root of **** all as far as I can see.

The system is the issue - fix the system, fix the defence.

Our team is unbalanced. Our attack is overloaded to compensate for its shortcomings. The result is extra players forward, scoring more goals.

The issue of that is that our defence is isolated - 2 players left doing the job that some teams assign to 5 or 6. How the **** are they supposed to look anything other than awful in that situation?

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