14,500 traffic convictions to be quashed over Garda error

Ted111 · 29-03-2017 5:16pm

"When you're rewiring the house you need the lights on"
Noirin O Sullivan.

When you do electric work the first thing you do is turn off the juice dumb biche. I hope someone gives her a fork and puts her to play near some sockets. Fcuking Troglodyte.

Donal55 · 29-03-2017 5:18pm

Esel wrote: »

Money laundry?

Over 50 bank accounts. With €000s being transferred. With land portfolios.
A money laundry that's on a par with the Kinahan's

Ted111 · 29-03-2017 5:40pm

Donal55 wrote: »

Over 50 bank accounts. With €000s being transferred. With land portfolios.
A money laundry that's on a par with the Kinahan's

Do you remember a few years ago senior gardai were being comped with free holidays by one of the big tyre firms. Who just happened to get contracts for garda fleet. There was lots of enquiries and commissions and recommendations for tender procedures. Nobody went to jail though. Or got sacked.

29-03-2017 6:03pm

Dionysius2 wrote: »

Commsnr O'Sullivan's carefully worded allusive comment about the possibility of other issues arising later and which may be seen as deficient on the honesty scale is thought provoking. What are we being softened up for with that disclosure, one wonders. Anyone care to expand ?

Obviously its a case of leaking damaging stuff now, so that it doesnt get 'discovered' in the Tribunals.

It will be 'old news' by then.

Calhoun · 29-03-2017 6:11pm

I love how all the every day hero gaurds that came out of the woodwork in December decrying how they were poverty stricken and working all the hours in the week have gone silent.

I don't know how the minister can last much longer and I am not sure how the Gaurds as an entity can keep getting away with it. What outrage becomes too much.

jelutong · 29-03-2017 6:14pm

They obviously acquired a taste for free Coffee and Douhgnuts during their education in Templemore.

Mr.Micro · 29-03-2017 6:51pm

To think many of these People giving sworn evidence against suspects in court on a daily basis...

blackbox · 29-03-2017 7:55pm

Calhoun wrote: »

I love how all the every day hero gaurds that came out of the woodwork in December decrying how they were poverty stricken and working all the hours in the week have gone silent.

No sign of the GRA or AGSI to condemn any of these scandals.

Reminds me of another representative organisation that is very slow to condemn criminal activities of its members.

Esel · 29-03-2017 7:59pm

blackbox wrote: »

No sign of the GRA or AGSI to condemn any of these scandals.

Reminds me of another representative organisation that is very slow to condemn criminal activities of its members.

Which one?

(You broke the quote in your post btw.)

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-03-2017 8:01pm

From what Noreen is saying the worst is yet to come

Dont know how they will ever recover from this

steddyeddy · 29-03-2017 8:14pm

Noddyholder wrote: »

An Garda Síochána is due to publish a report detailing financial irregularities at the Garda College over a number of years.

It also identified a large number of bank accounts as part of a non-transparent system of accounting.

One, a laundry account, was not being used for that purpose.

Tánaiste Frances Fitzgerald told the Dáil last night that the report raises serious governance issues and will be referred to the Comptroller and Auditor General and the Public Accounts Committee.

http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017/0329/863350-garda-report-templemore/

This is all on top of the other issues, & on it goes & goes .

Feck off with governance issues. It's likely criminal.

My name is URL · 29-03-2017 8:29pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

They can just fire her. It's not like she's running a coup.

Well she still has the full support of the Justice Minister, who is the only one that can fire her. If she hasn't been sacked so far then I don't see it happening in the case of a No Confidence motion being passed.

Imo, and leaving everything else aside; publicly stating that you will refuse to resign in such circumstances should itself be reprimandable.

It's not a coup, but it looks extremely bad. Her calling in the top brass for briefings and having Callinan in Garda HQ yesterday raises a few questions. It's not exactly transparent.

Little CuChulainn · 29-03-2017 8:35pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Well she still has the full support of the Justice Minister, who is the only one that can fire her. If she hasn't been sacked so far then I don't see it happening in the case of a No Confidence motion being passed.

Imo, and leaving everything else aside; publicly stating that you will refuse to resign in such circumstances should itself be reprimandable.

It's not a coup, but it looks extremely bad. Her calling in the top brass for briefings and having Callinan in Garda HQ yesterday raises a few questions. It's not exactly transparent.

But if she resigns everyone will just give out about her getting off lightly and not being held to account, just like the man before her.

My name is URL · 29-03-2017 8:43pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

But if she resigns everyone will just give out about her getting off lightly and not being held to account, just like the man before her.

So are you defending her refusal to resign if a no confidence motion is passed?

And people are bloody right to give out about such people getting off lightly. In any other job you would just be politely asked to resign and sent off with a huge pension.

If Callinan was a commissioner in the UK and called whistleblowers disgusting, he'd have been out on his ear right away. That can't happen in Ireland since the government don't want to fire people that they have appointed. Makes 'em look like idiots for giving them jobs in the first place.

Little CuChulainn · 29-03-2017 9:00pm

My name is URL wrote: »

So are you defending her refusal to resign if a no confidence motion is passed?

Nope, I'm saying it isn't the end of democracy.

blackbox · 29-03-2017 9:14pm

I wouldn't like her to be sacked if people (i.e. politicians) thought that "now we've taken decisive action - problem solved".

The problem goes much deeper. Every member at every level who falsified records, buried reports or mis-managed finances needs to be held to account. Some of these may be criminal matters.

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RustyNut · 29-03-2017 9:24pm

Calhoun · 29-03-2017 9:35pm

blackbox wrote: »

No sign of the GRA or AGSI to condemn any of these scandals.

Reminds me of another representative organisation that is very slow to condemn criminal activities of its members.

I wouldnt even mind that so much but we all have that connected Gaurda friend who posted up a nice little sob story on facebook about how they were on the breadline ect, and how hard they worked everyday for the public of this country.

Those facebook heroes seem to have gone quite, something stinks and the blue is fading. I wonder what scapegoat they will use to blame this one, there will of course be no arrests.

Noddyholder · 30-03-2017 8:10am

Concerns about widespread financial irregularities at the Garda College were first expressed over a decade ago, a damning internal audit has revealed.

The document detailed the use of 48 different bank accounts and a "non-transparent system of accounting" at the college in Templemore, Co Tipperary.

issues were flagged as far back as 2006 but only two out of 12 subsequent recommendations from the Garda finance directorate were implemented.

A private company, known as The Garda Síochána Sportsfield Co Ltd, held land for the college and had members of the college's management as its directors.

The Garda Síochána Act 2005 banned gardaí from being involved in land contracts and the report found that the company should have been dissolved from the beginning of the act and its assets transferred to the OPW. This did not happen.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-college-spent-thousands-on-jewellery-flowers-and-golf-society-35577863.html

The police authority need to do more than give hard worded statements .

Per Gene Kerrigan...
"The evidence of Garda scandals keeps coming in waves. And it tells us the Garda rank and file is steeped in a culture that breeds slipshod work, arrogance towards the law and contempt for civilians. We would not tolerate these standards in a workforce making tea-towels. Tolerating such standards in a police force is not respecting law and order, it's disrespecting the very concept."

archer22 · 30-03-2017 8:32am

Calhoun wrote: »

I love how all the every day hero gaurds that came out of the woodwork in December decrying how they were poverty stricken and working all the hours in the week have gone silent.

I don't know how the minister can last much longer and I am not sure how the Gaurds as an entity can keep getting away with it. What outrage becomes too much.

They will keep getting away with it because they can keep selling Paddy Soap the illusion of security.

And at the end of the day old Paddy will tolerate anything as long as he is fooled into believing the Gardai keeps him 'safe'.

Calhoun · 30-03-2017 2:42pm

archer22 wrote: »

They will keep getting away with it because they can keep selling Paddy Soap the illusion of security.

And at the end of the day old Paddy will tolerate anything as long as he is fooled into believing the Gardai keeps him 'safe'.

We shall see the veneer is really starting to lift for the force.

This government has to go as they are not taking action and will not.

Mr.Micro · 30-03-2017 3:15pm

Calhoun wrote: »

We shall see the veneer is really starting to lift for the force.

This government has to go as they are not taking action and will not.

The Garda Commissioner looks like she knows stuff and people in power are afraid to stir the ***t. She is not going anywhere soon. Much of the stuff has been going on for decades and it will take guts and courage to deal with it. This Government does not have that.

Calhoun · 30-03-2017 4:14pm

Mr.Micro wrote: »

The Garda Commissioner looks like she knows stuff and people in power are afraid to stir the ***t. She is not going anywhere soon. Much of the stuff has been going on for decades and it will take guts and courage to deal with it. This Government does not have that.

That is ok also, net-net of a party in government that holds itself to be the "law and order party" not actually living up to that is a drop in the polls.

To think they were doing somewhat well off the back of the trip to the US, things will now start to take the spiral. I like how Leo is putting his head on the line by standing behind her, that might come bite him in the ass.

Samsgirl · 30-03-2017 11:03pm

https://www.todayfm.com/The-Ian-Dempsey-Breakfast-Show/Gift-The-Garda-Perform-Every-Breath-You-Take-GDiddy-199106-199107

Widdershins · 03-04-2017 3:03pm

So how do people know if they were one of the ones involved in the traffic offense cases that were wrongly convicted? Are they going to write out to all 14,500?

Little CuChulainn · 03-04-2017 3:04pm

Widdershins wrote: »

So how do people know if they were one of the ones involved in the traffic offense cases that were wrongly convicted? Are they going to write out to all 14,500?

It would seem so.

My name is URL · 03-04-2017 3:35pm

Thought this was funny

please helpThank YOU · 04-04-2017 8:58pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Thought this was funny

[/Very Funny ...But Have the Garda sent out 14,500 Letters to the Wrongly Convicted? And why not?

Esel · 04-04-2017 9:35pm

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

Very Funny ...But Have the Garda sent out 14,500 Letters to the Wrongly Convicted? And why not?

You broke the quote system there.

Do you know that the letters have not been sent?

please helpThank YOU · 04-04-2017 10:32pm

Esel wrote: »

You broke the quote system there.

Do you know that the letters have not been sent?

I was just Wondering have the Garda sent out the 14500 letters. to the 14500 wrongly convicted how do we know this figure is not low balling and this not say 100000 Wrongly Convicted in the wrong?

14,500 traffic convictions to be quashed over Garda error

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