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Attack outside UK Houses Of Parliament — No speculation — Read 1st post

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  • #332
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    snowflaker wrote: »
    The suspect appears to be middle eastern by Mirror photos. No doubt linked to ISIL. I wonder how many attacks are prevented by MI5 etc


    I think a few weeks ago they said that there have been 13 failed attempts in the last 3 years.
    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/03/06/13-uk-terror-attacks-thwarted-2013


  • #333
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    end of the road wrote: »
    no it won't. but you know that. nice little sound bite though.

    Pretty sure they do know it and was making the point sarcastically.


  • #334
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    he could just be having a bad day:rolleyes:

    It's unlikely but not impossible. If they find note on him about fathers for justice we'll all be shocked (me too).

    At the moment we can assume that it's probably related to militant islam. The guy might be mentally disturbed as well. But there's always the chance that it's completely unrelated.


  • #335
    CaptainR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭CaptainR


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    3 of the injured are French students.

    France have really had a bad time of it the last few years, poor kids.


  • #336
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    itoro wrote: »
    would they not have had armed police on the gates of parliament? how did the guy get so far in to stab an officer?

    Westminster is fairly open.


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  • #337
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Gbear wrote: »
    Cars are really dangerous and I hope my assumption, that people are almost all decent, is responsible for the lack of attacks rather than it being an overlooked avenue for terror, because it has the potential to be a far more dangerous form of terrorism than guns or bombs.

    You wouldn't be guaranteed to cause carnage though, if that was your aim, not like a truck or a plane. As likely as not the first person you struck would knock you off course and you'd crash into a lampost...

    Bit like going on a 'rampage' with a carving knife, you could kill ten people or noone...


  • #338
    sjb25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Grayson wrote: »
    Depends on how you happened to be right. A guy posted a screenshot of something. I'm assuming it was a news article based on what he said afterwards and a load of people said "Proof!!". It wasn't proof. When they turned out to be right, they just happened to be right.

    And I don't think anyone said that he wasn't "asian". (I'm putting that in quotations because for a lot of people here asian might mean chinese etc). All anyone said was that we didn't know. All we had was some randomer on the internet saying so.

    Now we have the photo of the police standing around him we have proof. (it's still possible that we might be mistaken but it's highly unlikely).

    Il put it this way the picture it seen is from the area in parliament that the officer was stabbed the perpetrator was shot that I'm certain now the man being loaded into the ambulance is a Middle eastern looking man I would say personally so either the police officer is Middle Eastern or the perpetrator is that I can't tell


  • #339
    SILVAMAN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭SILVAMAN


    And today is the anniversary of the attack at Brussels airport.
    The security services know of many radicalised people and of others willing to lend logistical support. Time to quietly but firmly eradicate those that are known to be terrorists.


  • #340
    [Deleted User]
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    itoro wrote: »
    would they not have had armed police on the gates of parliament? how did the guy get so far in to stab an officer?
    Some are, some aren't. I was over last year and inside the railings there were visibile officers with guns, as well as a few outside. The guys at the gates/barriers didn't have visible guns which did strike me as odd.


  • #341
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    An attack on a parliament is fairly unusual. Radical Islamists seem more interested on high casualties among ordinary citizens.
    The last attack on the UK's parliament, in the form of an MP killing was related to Brexit.
    Just saying.

    No, there have been numerous attacks and attempted attacks of police and army officers across Europe. There was one attempt in Paris just days ago. also, Isis propaganda has urged followers to commit attacks by running people over and stabbing them. Just saying


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  • #342
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Westminster is fairly open.
    They do have armed police...that's who shot the suspect after he made a run at the gate..unfortunately it was an unarmed officer who first tackled him.


  • #343
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    SILVAMAN wrote: »
    It's an Islamic extremist attack. Simple as that.

    It's murdering terrorist scum getting exactly the reaction from pathetic snivelling little cowards that they want. Simple as that.


  • #344
    sReq | uTeK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    The sad thing is that I've become accustomed to these reports, their shock value has all but dissipated.

    What a horrible world we live in, and what a horrible horrible world our kids are set to inherit.


  • #345
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Whoever referenced that Black Mirror episode earlier was bang on the money. There's a member of Scotland Yard giving a press conference live on Sky News down by the Thames and the amount of absolute gombeens with their phones obnoxiously out in front of them recording is ridiculous.


  • #346
    Neon_Lights
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    sReq | uTeK wrote: »
    The sad thing is that I'm accustomed to these reports, their shock value has all but dissipated.

    What a horrible world we live in, and what a horrible horrible world our kids are set to inherit.

    Problem is nobody is willing to "eradicate" the problem, this all stems from the wars in the middle east, no matter what way you look at it


  • #347
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,690 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Whoever referenced that Black Mirror episode earlier was bang on the money. There's a member of Scotland Yard giving a press conference live on Sky News down by the Thames and the amount of absolute gombeens with their phones obnoxiously out in front of them recording is ridiculous.

    Narcissistic eejits


  • #348
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    At least with the RA there was an end goal i.e. United Ireland.

    These ****ers just want everyone to die.


  • #349
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    sReq | uTeK wrote: »
    The sad thing is that I'm accustomed to these reports, their shock value has all but dissipated.

    What a horrible world we live in, and what a horrible horrible world our kids are set to inherit.

    Maybe that's a good thing in some ways. The point of a terrorist attack is to terrorise. If they don't have that effect then they aren't as effective.

    As for your kids, well numbers show that the deaths from terrorist attacks have on average been dropping since the last century. The last year or so has seen an increase but hopefully that's a blip. The kids are going to hopefully have a better world than we did when we were kids.


  • #350
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    At least with the RA there was an end goal i.e. United Ireland.

    These ****ers just want everyone to die.

    Isnt the supposed end goal an Islamic caliphate across the world?


  • #351
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    end of the road wrote: »
    pc and bleeding hearts don't exist.


    Political correctness exists according to 97% of people here on Boards.ie. Either you're wrong or literally nearly everyone else is.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057712641


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  • #352
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,537 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    SILVAMAN wrote: »
    It's an Islamic extremist attack. Simple as that.

    prove it. it might very well be but until actual proof from the authorities comes out then your statement is just a claim which means jot. sorry about that.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #353
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    At least with the RA there was an end goal i.e. United Ireland.

    These ****ers just want everyone to die.

    Al-Qaeda did have political aims. Most islamic groups did. ISIS are just nuts though.


  • #354
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Well, I'm just surprised that more attacks like this in the U.K. haven't taken place recently. M15 and the police seem to be doing a pretty good job.


  • #355
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Remember folks, a man shouting "Britain First" while he stabs a politician in broad daylight is just a mentally unstable loner.

    A middle eastern man who drives car through pedestrians before trying to attack a heavily guarded building with a kitchen knife is an agent of a highly sophisticated international terror plot. No way he's a lone lunatic. That's just off the wall.


  • #356
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    At least with the RA there was an end goal i.e. United Ireland.

    These ****ers just want everyone to die.

    The end goal is a global caliphate, then there will be peace.


  • #357
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,537 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    SILVAMAN wrote: »
    And today is the anniversary of the attack at Brussels airport.
    The security services know of many radicalised people and of others willing to lend logistical support. Time to quietly but firmly eradicate those that are known to be terrorists.

    can't be done, it would be against their human rights and the law, as murder is illegal. however, such people are being dealt with on a daily basis by britain's courts. so the authorities are dealing with the issue, via the law.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #358
    Neon_Lights
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    end of the road wrote: »
    prove it. it might very well be but until actual proof from the authorities comes out then your statement is just a claim which means jot. sorry about that.

    Very highly indicative, who says a public body is the medium for truth anyway most of them lie through their teeth


  • #359
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Isnt the supposed end goal an Islamic caliphate across the world?

    The know that's not an achievable aim though.

    They are a death cult quite simply.


  • #360
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    harr wrote: »
    snowflaker wrote: »
    Westminster is fairly open.
    They do have armed police...that's who shot the suspect after he made a run at the gate..unfortunately it was an unarmed officer who first tackled him.
    An extremely brave unarmed officer.


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  • #361
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Grayson wrote: »

    The kids are going to hopefully have a better world than we did when we were kids.

    For my daughters sake, I really wish I could believe that. It's not just terror attacks, there's climate change, the threat of large scale war, environmental toxins...the whole world is going to sh!t it seems


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