T-shirt in Primark discontinued because of racist 'eeny meeny miny moe' message

Donal55 · 23-02-2017 11:35PM

Stigura wrote: »

Hmm. 'We' always knew it as " Ip Dip Dog Sh!t You Are Not IT ". The person ending up as 'It' generally being the lone chaser of the rest of us.

What was that game when one person stood facing a wall. The rest of ye tried to get to them. They'd spin round and try to catch ye moving. So much trust and simple honesty involved there, when ye think about it.

Kids

Kids Playing, Look

Queenie Eye Oh...??
Can't play that anymore either..
Its homophobic.

23-02-2017 11:36PM

I hate this tshirt because I'm really racist and it makes me think racist things

Stigura · 23-02-2017 11:43PM

Donal55 wrote: »

Queenie Eye Oh...??
Can't play that anymore either..
Its homophobic.

Look at the Brits; They're all Ruled by a queen! :eek:

How the hell have we come to this?!

23-02-2017 11:43PM

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Grew up in 80's and N word was obligatory in eeny meeny. Not saying it's right BTW.

Kids still use it today but it's tiger!

Still though... as much as I'd love to I'm not gonna stop them from using the tiger version... I'd offer a replacement but all I can remember was

Ip dip dog 5hit...

Or

My mother gave your mother a punch on the nose.

Anyone know the rest of Ip dip?

Just make up a replacement, it's easy

Try this and teach them some german too

Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier
Warum bin ich hier?

Funf, Sechs, Sieben, Acht
Zieg mir deine ganze Macht.

Stigura · 23-02-2017 11:47PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Try this and teach them some german too

Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier

Yourself isit · 23-02-2017 11:50PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I hate this tshirt because I'm really racist and it makes me think racist things

That's true. The only people who think the whole rhyme racist based on the first line are filling in the rest of line with the racist phrase in their own heads

24-02-2017 12:48AM

Yourself isit wrote: »

That's true. The only people who think the whole rhyme racist based on the first line are filling in the rest of line with the racist phrase in their own heads

Seems like very dodgy logic to me

evolving_doors · 24-02-2017 12:51AM

Stigura wrote: »

Hmm. 'We' always knew it as " Ip Dip Dog Sh!t You Are Not IT ". The person ending up as 'It' generally being the lone chaser of the rest of us.

What was that game when one person stood facing a wall. The rest of ye tried to get to them. They'd spin round and try to catch ye moving. So much trust and simple honesty involved there, when ye think about it.

Kids

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was that "May I?"

24-02-2017 12:53AM

Gebgbegb wrote: »

was that "May I?"

We called it statues I think

KingBrian2 · 24-02-2017 01:28AM

Yourself isit wrote: »

That's true. The only people who think the whole rhyme racist based on the first line are filling in the rest of line with the racist phrase in their own heads

Their's that and the fact that it encourages bullying or at least it says it is okay for kids to taunt other kids. Primark sell Christmas cards they should know best not to have crap like this in their inventory. It is the sort of clothing you get from ebay or a tacky shop.

davidwalsh12 · 24-02-2017 01:34AM

Stigura wrote: »

davidwalsh12 wrote: »

Ip dip dogs dick out pops piss is the way it went. If you were piss you were it.

Hmm. 'We' always knew it as " Ip Dip Dog Sh!t You Are Not IT ". The person ending up as 'It' generally being the lone chaser of the rest of us.

What was that game when one person stood facing a wall. The rest of ye tried to get to them. They'd spin round and try to catch ye moving. So much trust and simple honesty involved there, when ye think about it.

Kids

Kids Playing, Look

I suppose its a bit like chinise whispers, the rhymes i mean. Both in this case. The op's and the Ip Dip. The only games i played as a kid was break into the empty house and steal the wire then burn it for the copper and get a few coins.

Stigura · 24-02-2017 01:34AM

Gebgbegb wrote: »

was that "May I?"

riffmongous wrote: »

We called it statues I think

Dunno. I honestly can't remember now. It was an awful long time ago!

Sounds like the same game though.

Anyway, back on topic: We still had Golliwogs in them days!

jackofalltrades · 24-02-2017 03:39AM

We're really lucky we have this white couple from Sheffield to spot the kind of racism.
To think a similar T-shirt is sold in America and people didn't notice this.
Black people owe them a debt of gratitude for pointing this out to them.
Maybe the NAACP have some kind of award for this. :rolleyes:

I'm glad people, including the actor who plays Negan are pointing out this stupidity.
Primark need to tell Ian to fúck off and start selling the T-shirt again.
Apologising for any offense caused just emboldens them.

ceadaoin. · 24-02-2017 05:21AM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Their's that and the fact that it encourages bullying or at least it says it is okay for kids to taunt other kids. Primark sell Christmas cards they should know best not to have crap like this in their inventory. It is the sort of clothing you get from ebay or a tacky shop.

How does it encourage bullying? It's traditionally used to make a choice, and that's how it was used in TWD, it's nothing to do with kids taunting other kids

Mark Tapley · 24-02-2017 06:40AM

I think it is about intent. In this case I don't believe there was racist intent. I would be more concerned about some forty watt American donning this tshirt and going out stoving people's heads in. Negan made me do it.

Subacio · 24-02-2017 04:27PM

Back in the 90s a friend of mine was playing tennis at the local club while wearing a Republic of Ireland goalies jersey. On another court there was a local kid of Asian parentage with his English based cousin. A stray ball went into my mates court and the guys asked him for the ball back but called him Packie after Packie Bonner. The Asian-English kid went crazy calling the Irish lads racists, KKK and all that. However he did apologise after it was explained that Packie is an Irish variant of Patrick.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 24-02-2017 04:31PM

Subacio wrote: »

Back in the 90s a friend of mine was playing tennis at the local club while wearing a Republic of Ireland goalies jersey. On another court there was a local kid of Asian parentage with his English based cousin. A stray ball went into my mates court and the guys asked him for the ball back but called him Packie after Packie Bonner. The Asian-English kid went crazy calling the Irish lads racists, KKK and all that. However he did apologise after it was explained that Packie is an Irish variant of Patrick.

This is why they always refer to him as Pat Bonner in the UK.

KingBrian2 · 24-02-2017 06:35PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

How does it encourage bullying? It's traditionally used to make a choice, and that's how it was used in TWD, it's nothing to do with kids taunting other kids

Do you need to have a recital of the original lyrics? It could get banned on Boards.ie if i was to type it. Perhaps though it would change you mind.

peckerhead · 24-02-2017 07:00PM

jackofalltrades wrote: »

Primark need to tell Ian to fúck off and start selling the T-shirt again.
Apologising for any offense caused just emboldens them.

He's already gone through their Disney section and identified at least three Snow White items that are blatantly offensive to short people.

ceadaoin. · 24-02-2017 07:05PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Do you need to have a recital of the original lyrics? It could get banned on Boards.ie if i was to type it. Perhaps though it would change you mind.

Ok, last try - those aren't the "original lyrics". It's a folk rhyme with many variants over the years, including a racist one which seems to have primarily used by kids in the 80s and 90s in Ireland and the U.K. Kids nowadays and fair few adults have no clue about that. Many people in America have never heard of it ever being used in a racist way and would be baffled by the insinuation. The walking dead, which is what this shirt is about, did not use it in a racist way.

KingBrian2 · 24-02-2017 08:57PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ok, last try - those aren't the "original lyrics". It's a folk rhyme with many variants over the years, including a racist one which seems to have primarily used by kids in the 80s and 90s in Ireland and the U.K. Kids nowadays and fair few adults have no clue about that. Many people in America have never heard of it ever being used in a racist way and would be baffled by the insinuation. The walking dead, which is what this shirt is about, did not use it in a racist way.

The rhyme still retains its racist background. This is not the first time a controversy has emerged over this tune so what was Primark up to when they released this perhaps they were looking for controversy in order to generate media attention. It certainly worked and a major multinational corporation is profiting yet again from a racist rhyme. Who would come to a local store owner had they done the same?

evolving_doors · 24-02-2017 09:37PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

The rhyme still retains its racist background. This is not the first time a controversy has emerged over this tune so what was Primark up to when they released this perhaps they were looking for controversy in order to generate media attention. It certainly worked and a major multinational corporation is profiting yet again from a racist rhyme. Who would come to a local store owner had they done the same?

How does it 'retain' It's racist background?

Like when kids are saying 'catch a tiger by the toe', does a man in white kkk robe suddenly magically appear and say "actually children it's not tiger it's n***** and that refers to people with dark skin... and by the way children they are inferior."

Things evolve, references are lost. Does any kid know that baa baa black sheep is about taxes to the church and state.

ceadaoin. · 24-02-2017 09:58PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

The rhyme still retains its racist background. This is not the first time a controversy has emerged over this tune so what was Primark up to when they released this perhaps they were looking for controversy in order to generate media attention. It certainly worked and a major multinational corporation is profiting yet again from a racist rhyme. Who would come to a local store owner had they done the same?

Or maybe they just wanted to sell a shirt that references a popular TV show. Its officially branded so I'm sure it has also been sold elsewhere. Do you think the walking dead scene is racist also and should never be shown again? Even though not one complaint was received about it?

KingBrian2 · 24-02-2017 10:08PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Or maybe they just wanted to sell a shirt that references a popular TV show. Its officially branded so I'm sure it has also been sold elsewhere. Do you think the walking dead scene is racist also and should never be shown again? Even though not one complaint was received about it?

Have not seen that TV show nor have i seen the T-Shirt just making the point that the rhyme is a well known racist one that plenty of people to this day still seem to be okay to pass on to the next generation. People need to come up with new rhymes and lyrics and not get bogged down with taunts that this rhyme is associated with.

Donal55 · 24-02-2017 10:10PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Have not seen that TV show nor have i seen the T-Shirt just making the point that the rhyme is a well known racist one that plenty of people to this day still seem to be okay to pass on to the next generation. People need to come up with new rhymes and lyrics and not get bogged down with taunts that this rhyme is associated with.

We should also burn books that have such writing in them.

25-02-2017 12:02AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

define "a little while". as a child growing up in the 70s the N word wasnt used.

I remember it being used in the 60s and 70s.

Grandeeod wrote: »

Same here and I didnt even know what it meant.

This: It was just a rhyme - we had no idea what it meant!

So, were we racist? I don't think so!

evolving_doors · 25-02-2017 11:09AM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Have not seen that TV show nor have i seen the T-Shirt just making the point that the rhyme is a well known racist one that plenty of people to this day still seem to be okay to pass on to the next generation. People need to come up with new rhymes and lyrics and not get bogged down with taunts that this rhyme is associated with.

The one passed on is NOT racist. The substitute word has taken over.
Try explaining to 60,000 Irish kids that they can't say tiger anymore because.... why exactly?

Do black kids find the word tiger offensive?

KingBrian2 · 25-02-2017 10:47PM

Gebgbegb wrote: »

The one passed on is NOT racist. The substitute word has taken over.
Try explaining to 60,000 Irish kids that they can't say tiger anymore because.... why exactly?

Do black kids find the word tiger offensive?

Yeah but explaining to kids what the rhyme was originally is important. It could be said that the rhyme is also cruel to Tigers. You take out one offensive word put in a less offensive word animal lovers are not going to take it kindly.

The point is i don't see this as appropriate to have on a T-shirt it seems i am in minority. It should not be banned or such the like but if this guy feels strongly about it than he should take Primark to court.

davidwalsh12 · 28-02-2017 09:01PM

Awwwww Bless. The mods here are such delicate little snowflakes. Banning me for standing up to one for calling me a dick.
lmao Butt hurt much?

evolving_doors · 28-02-2017 09:04PM

davidwalsh12 wrote: »

Awwwww Bless. The mods here are such delicate little snowflakes. Banning me for standing up to one for calling me a dick.
lmao Butt hurt much?

Right on dude.... stickin it to the maaannnnn.

T-shirt in Primark discontinued because of racist 'eeny meeny miny moe' message

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