England vs Italy.

ScrubsfanChris · 26-02-2017 05:45PM

Farrell gas been pants all day. Worst I've seem him in an England shirt.

BBDBB · 26-02-2017 05:45PM

England have two very tough games ahead in light of this

LeinsterDub · 26-02-2017 05:46PM

kittyeater102 wrote: »

If Ireland get 8 points from the last 2 games and England get 5 ( 4 against Scotland, 1 against us) then Ireland and England finish level on points. Who wins the championship then? Head to head? Tries? Points difference ?

Was points difference 2 years ago. I don't think that's changed

26-02-2017 05:46PM

English Lurker wrote: »

Stealing Dave Rennie's you mean.

Personally I think Poite's had a good game

the whistle before Nowell 'scores' was a big error though. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if TMO said no problem at the breakdown.

swiwi_ · 26-02-2017 05:46PM

English Lurker wrote: »

Stealing Dave Rennie's you mean.

Personally I think Poite's had a good game

Ah the Chiefs never took it to this extreme.

awec · 26-02-2017 05:46PM

kittyeater102 wrote: »

If Ireland get 8 points from the last 2 games and England get 5 ( 4 against Scotland, 1 against us) then Ireland and England finish level on points. Who wins the championship then? Head to head? Tries? Points difference ?

It goes to points difference and then tries after that.

razorblunt · 26-02-2017 05:46PM

Not a word on the knocks at the line in the rolling maul, nor Hartley's lack of leadrship, nor Farrell's shítshow. Take a bow ITV.

ThisRegard · 26-02-2017 05:46PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Hugh Cahill's anti-England rubbish is grating to listen to.

I don't hear it, unless you're talking about how rightfully said the crowd as a whole didn't know the rucking laws.

shootermacg · 26-02-2017 05:47PM

Great game by Italy, they can be very proud today.

awec · 26-02-2017 05:48PM

Subbed Nowell out of my fantasy team for May.

stephen_n · 26-02-2017 05:48PM

English Lurker wrote: »

Stealing Dave Rennie's you mean.

Personally I think Poite's had a good game

For his I'm the referee not your coach comment, he's gone up in my estimation immeasurably :pac:

vienne86 · 26-02-2017 05:50PM

Well I wouldn't call a 36-15 win over Italy as a taking to the cleaners.

thomond2006 · 26-02-2017 05:50PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

I don't hear it, unless you're talking about how rightfully said the crowd as a whole didn't know the rucking laws.

"Did they deserve it Donal"?

When they won by 21 points...

BBDBB · 26-02-2017 05:50PM

Fascinating game, every credit to Italy for throwing the cat among the pigeons in the first half

A-Train · 26-02-2017 05:51PM

Italy did well for 60 mins but England still had enough for them while being very average and moronic for long time in the game.

vienne86 · 26-02-2017 05:51PM

Delighted for Conor O'Shea. Eddie Jones saying they were going to take Italy to the cleaners was uncalled for.

26-02-2017 05:52PM

vienne86 wrote: »

Well I wouldn't call a 36-15 win over Italy as a taking to the cleaners.

absolutely not.

Good effort from Italy. Threw a curveball at England and really got to them.

Don't think the result was ever really in doubt all the same.

techdiver · 26-02-2017 05:52PM

awec wrote: »

It goes to points difference and then tries after that.

Barring unusual results next time out, wins for Ireland and England (just 4 match points each) will mean advantage Ireland going into the final weekend. Any win would do as a 4-1 match points win for Ireland would leave it level on 18 points each, but Ireland, by virtue of the huge win in Rome have a significant advantage in points difference.

English Lurker · 26-02-2017 05:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

the whistle before Nowell 'scores' was a big error though. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if TMO said no problem at the breakdown.

I'd like to hear why he blew. Given that there was an infringement, could be the mistake was doubting himself.

swiwi_ wrote: »

Ah the Chiefs never took it to this extreme.

True. And I don't like it this extreme. Don't mind seeing it done to England but would rather not see it in general.

I have some shepherd's pie to help me soak up the gin I consumed during that before I talk to much but - horrible match to watch, but great entertainment, and even better to talk about.

bilston · 26-02-2017 05:53PM

Ok England got the BP, but that was a good day from our POV now.

PD is heavily in our favour now and unless England beat Scotland by 20 points, which they could but not on any evidence I've seen so far, a simple win over Wales means an 8 point win over England will give us the title assuming England get the BP win over Scotland.

moleyv · 26-02-2017 05:53PM

It was certainly more exciting than the Sunday borefest I was expecting

swiwi_ · 26-02-2017 05:53PM

Scotland beating England would make the last weekend really interesting.

Rightwing · 26-02-2017 05:53PM

I enjoyed that. Italy will still finish the campaign with 0 points.

Fratton Fred · 26-02-2017 05:54PM

So England are still the only six nations side Italy haven't beaten.

The Rape of Lucretia · 26-02-2017 05:57PM

techdiver wrote: »

Barring unusual results next time out, wins for Ireland and England (just 4 match points each) will mean advantage Ireland going into the final weekend.

It would ???

I thought it was still advantage England. Ireland less likely to get a bonus point against Scotland than we are against Wales or England. So England still with the nose ahead.

Is our explicit strategy now not that we must push for a bonus point win against Wales ?

Stheno · 26-02-2017 06:01PM

Hartley was "confused" by the Italians not contesting at ruck time lol

And according to him we only won against them in the last ten minutes :eek:

lawred2 · 26-02-2017 06:01PM

What planet is Hartley on?

Ireland only won in the last 10 minutes apparently

techdiver · 26-02-2017 06:02PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

It would ???

I thought it was still advantage England. Ireland less likely to get a bonus point against Scotland than we are against Wales or England. So England still with the nose ahead.

Is our explicit strategy now not that we must push for a bonus point win against Wales ?

What I was saying is no bonus points for either team next time out would result in the scenario I described (Ireland on 14 and England on 17 going into the last weekend). On today's showing England will be lucky to beat Scotland never mind get a BP.

Ectoplasm · 26-02-2017 06:02PM

I'm wondering what game Hartley played in after that interview!

shootermacg · 26-02-2017 06:02PM

And now over to Hartley, "Durrr!"

England vs Italy.

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