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Replacing Astec 49DV with HKC

  • 24-02-2017 05:22PM
    #1
    jamesd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭


    Looking at replacing my Astec 49DV, currently have only PIR's and door contacts and no window sensors so changing for this reason.

    From reading here and online I am interested in the HKC 10/70 and then to use the HKC app for notifications.
    Can the existing cable for the astec PIR's /door contacts /keypads be used for the HCK kit ?
    I will have to go wireless for the window sensors but a local electrician said he has seen a few houses there they drilled up over the window into the dormer area and then wired the window sensors or just easier to go wireless?

    I currently have 4 keypads so will need to replace them too.

    My external siren is a Pyronix grade 2 delta box - can this be used with the HKC ?

    Assuming then I need a 10/70 ,battery backup, 4 keypads, 8 PIR's, 12 wireless window sensors, 4 door sensors - Am I looking about about €1500 excluding install?


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  • #2
    van_beano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    I got a 1070 installed a couple of weeks ago 1 wired and 1 wireless PIR, 9 wireless sensors, new external bell, new back up battery box, key fob, GSM module. Can't think of anything else. My price included the installation. I would imagine the €1500 you're mentioning as being materials only, maybe add on a couple hundred extra for installation.

    FWIW I got about 5 quotes for the exact same product from 5 different installers. All were the same price give or take a couple of euros.


  • #3
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    jamesd wrote: »
    Looking at replacing my Astec 49DV, currently have only PIR's and door contacts and no window sensors so changing for this reason.

    From reading here and online I am interested in the HKC 10/70 and then to use the HKC app for notifications.
    Can the existing cable for the astec PIR's /door contacts /keypads be used for the HCK kit ?
    I will have to go wireless for the window sensors but a local electrician said he has seen a few houses there they drilled up over the window into the dormer area and then wired the window sensors or just easier to go wireless?

    I currently have 4 keypads so will need to replace them too.

    My external siren is a Pyronix grade 2 delta box - can this be used with the HKC ?

    Assuming then I need a 10/70 ,battery backup, 4 keypads, 8 PIR's, 12 wireless window sensors, 4 door sensors - Am I looking about about €1500 excluding install?

    Good advice about shopping around.
    The cables should be fine depending on what configuration was used.
    Also look at the GSD i10-70. This system will integrate with existing Astec sensors and contacts. That along with free apps and the option of no ongoing charges may save you a good few bob.
    Take a look at the sticky on app charges and functions for more options.


  • #4
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,024 ✭✭✭✭altor


    jamesd wrote: »
    Looking at replacing my Astec 49DV, currently have only PIR's and door contacts and no window sensors so changing for this reason.

    From reading here and online I am interested in the HKC 10/70 and then to use the HKC app for notifications.
    Can the existing cable for the astec PIR's /door contacts /keypads be used for the HCK kit ?
    I will have to go wireless for the window sensors but a local electrician said he has seen a few houses there they drilled up over the window into the dormer area and then wired the window sensors or just easier to go wireless?

    I currently have 4 keypads so will need to replace them too.

    My external siren is a Pyronix grade 2 delta box - can this be used with the HKC ?

    Assuming then I need a 10/70 ,battery backup, 4 keypads, 8 PIR's, 12 wireless window sensors, 4 door sensors - Am I looking about about €1500 excluding install?

    I have swapped out loads using the old Cabling of a pre-installed Astec.
    I would advise having the cable looked at first tho as some of the Astec installation can have two cores going to a keypad, two for sensors 2 for a PIR off the one 6 core cable.

    As the HKC 10/70 have a full suite of wire free sensors/ bells and keypads included you can mix and match with wired and wire free

    www.altor.ie



  • #5
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    6 cores at a keypad would be fine for the keypad, a PiR and a contact or sensor on the front door.
    Some Astec premises also have the front door and lounge on the same cable/zone.
    Those 2 scenarios would only work fine with the GSD panel.
    All these panels have a full wireless portfolio also.
    Forgot to mention your Delta Bell would be fine to keep too.


  • #6
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,843 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    I'd be replacing the entire thing as those devices could be 15 - 20 years old.


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  • #7
    jamesd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭jamesd


    Thanks very much guys, some good advise there for me. I will get 2 prices on the kit and install and let ye know how I get on if not overly expensive.


  • #8
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Good luck with it. Make sure you get a detailed system design proposal covering all costs and any ongoing fees.


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