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T-shirt in Primark discontinued because of racist 'eeny meeny miny moe' message

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    biko wrote: »
    So, it's Negan in Walking Dead that is the racist now?
    I knew it when he killed
    Glenn!

    Yes he showed hatred for someone living over the walking dead ,
    bastard !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Yes. As a child I was fully responsible for the culture of casual racism in Ireland in the 80s. Great call.

    Blame it on the tasty treats.

    golly.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Their clothes are made in sweatshops by people who are treated little better than slaves in cotton plantations were a couple of hundred years ago. The person in the story gives none of that a second thought but almost has a heart attack when he sees some 'offensive' words.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    biko wrote: »
    So, it's Negan in Walking Dead that is the racist now?
    I knew it when he killed
    Glenn!

    And he killed a ginger… although that's probably forgivable seeing as they have no souls.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Their clothes are made in sweatshops by people who are treated little better than slaves in cotton plantations were a couple of hundred years ago. The person in the story gives none of that a second thought but almost has a heart attack when he sees some 'offensive' words.

    Sweatshops sounds so coarse, I prefer to call them 'Magic Fabric Pixie Factories'! Makes all those great bargains seem even more fantastical!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,372 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Blame it on the tasty treats.

    golly.gif

    The most disappointing of all the ice creams. Just a plain bar of vanilla on a stick, wtf was the point of that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    i think that says more about you than the tshirt.

    Yeah, we only picked teams for five a side in the local park if we were wearing our white hoods and had our burning crosses up…

    It was a nonsense rhyme that we used to say without twigging what we were actually saying. It wasn't intentional on our parts to be racist as 4-5 year olds back in the early 80s.

    I'll admit to wincing in anticipation of the 'n-word' when I heard my eldest saying it for the first time in and there being a huge sigh of relief when she said 'tiger'.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Zaph wrote: »
    The most disappointing of all the ice creams. Just a plain bar of vanilla on a stick, wtf was the point of that?
    That was how you knew you've been bad.
    "You're getting a plain ice cream, your brothers are getting something with chocolate or sprinkles on it."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    That was how you knew you've been bad.
    "You're getting a plain ice cream, your brothers are getting something with chocolate or sprinkles on it."

    All your brothers are getting Wibbly Wobbly Wonders because they're possibly gay but you're getting the Golly Bar because you're a total racist.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Yeah, we only picked teams for five a side in the local park if we were wearing our white hoods and had our burning crosses up…

    It was a nonsense rhyme that we used to say without twigging what we were actually saying. It wasn't intentional on our parts to be racist as 4-5 year olds back in the early 80s.

    I'll admit to wincing in anticipation of the 'n-word' when I heard my eldest saying it for the first time in and there being a huge sigh of relief when she said 'tiger'.


    On mature reflection perhaps it was a little harsh. besides, nobody back then was a racist. there was nobody to be a racist to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Primark are the worst party in all of this. They are pandering to and enabling these control freaks

    They have so many products that it must be possible for someone somewhere to take offence to anything. Probably makes commercial sense to discontinue something once a complaint hits the media, rather than constantly defending themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    I'll admit to wincing in anticipation of the 'n-word' when I heard my eldest saying it for the first time in and there being a huge sigh of relief when she said 'tiger'.
    niger ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Regressive left getting offended on others behalf yet again.

    The guy that complained was a Methodist Minister. Are they regressive left?

    'I heard you're a regressive leftie now, Father!'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    scamalert wrote: »
    niger ?

    Aye, that's it. I visited Niger once and got a bad dose of the scutters. Can't stand to even hear mention of the place now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    define "a little while". as a child growing up in the 70s the N word wasnt used.

    Grew up in the 80s and it was used. But the reaction to the TShirt is way over the top,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,896 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Zaph wrote: »
    The most disappointing of all the ice creams. Just a plain bar of vanilla on a stick, wtf was the point of that?

    Racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Zaph wrote: »
    The most disappointing of all the ice creams. Just a plain bar of vanilla on a stick, wtf was the point of that?


    i love golly bars. the ice cream in them was always much nicer than the ice cream used in other bars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    i love golly bars. the ice cream in them was always much nicer than the ice cream used in other bars.

    Does anyone remember the black beauty icepop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gatling wrote: »
    Does anyone remember the black beauty icepop


    do NOT google "black beauty ice cream".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    The guy that complained was a Methodist Minister. Are they regressive left?

    'I heard you're a regressive leftie now, Father!'

    Jesus was the original SJW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,886 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    This story is bizarre. I felt it bordering on the extreme & unnecessary.

    I didn't know that the T-Shirt was a reference to a TV show like The Walking Dead. But I knew that nursery rhyme had many different variations when I was told about it in school when a kid in the 90's. I would never for a second link the T-shirt to Black violence in America as your man may have referenced it either for research purposes or may have held a particular grudge against Primark for selling it to their customers.

    Either way; it is a sad reflection of society that all people regardless of opinion get to lose out by seeing this needless crap happen in reality.

    Coincidentally; there is a documentary called "Has Political Correctness Gone Mad?" in the UK on Channel 4 at 9pm tonight. We might give it a watch to see the more extreme end of PC Liberals going mad to end even more stupid ways of defeating ways of making sense with the world around them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I grew up in the 70s and it was.
    Depends on where you were raised I guess, different places sang it... differently.

    I remember my mother telling me that it was innocently used to describe a certain shade of brown in her locality. For eg she got an 'n brown' coat for her birthday one year. That's how she would describe it to her friends and no one would bat an eyelid.

    A different time altogether. They'd no comprehension of the history of the term as they grew up in an era when Ireland was practically all white.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,372 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    I remember my mother telling me that it was innocently used to describe a certain shade of brown in her locality. For eg she got an 'n brown' coat for her birthday one year. That's how she would describe it to her friends and no one would bat an eyelid.

    A different time altogether. They'd no comprehension of the history of the term as they grew up in an era when Ireland was practically all white.

    Absolutely. My great aunt, who was born in something like 1902 had a black cat named N***** when she was a young woman, and that was apparently quite a common name for black cats at that time. But there was absolutely no racial implications to the name as far as she was concerned, it was just a name that a lot of people used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Zaph wrote: »
    Absolutely. My great aunt, who was born in something like 1902 had a black cat named N***** when she was a young woman, and that was apparently quite a common name for black cats at that time. But there was absolutely no racial implications to the name as far as she was concerned, it was just a name that a lot of people used.

    Yeah but it was casually racist like. Back then that attitude toward black people was so normalised and culturally acceptable then it wouldn't have raised eyebrows and maybe the person wasn't frothing at the mouth malicious; but using N*gger as a name for a pet is very much racist like; as you said the only cats and dogs that were called it were the black ones.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    it is a sad reflection of society that all people regardless of opinion get to lose out by seeing this needless crap happen in reality...

    Could you set out the ways that society has lost out by not having Primark sell this particular teehshirt? I don't feel the loss myself, so I'd be interested to hear about your pain, or the loss felt by those you know. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Also I remember using the n*gger version of Eenie meenie back in the early 90s in school. Does anyone remember that Kia Ora ad that used to be on the telly? Jesus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Also I remember using the n*gger version of Eenie meenie back in the early 90s in school. Does anyone remember that Kia Ora ad that used to be on the telly? Jesus

    The one with the crows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    The one with the crows?

    Yep. That was fairly shocking for the 1990s like. How the f*ck did that one get made and signed off?


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,372 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Yeah but it was casually racist like. Back then that attitude toward black people was so normalised and culturally acceptable then it wouldn't have raised eyebrows and maybe the person wasn't frothing at the mouth malicious; but using N*gger as a name for a pet is very much racist like; as you said the only cats and dogs that were called it were the black ones.

    Of course it was racist, and by today's standards horrifically so. But by the standards of the time in 1920/30s Ireland it was just a word to describe something black. I doubt the word, or even the concept of racism was commonplace in the country at the time.
    FTA69 wrote: »
    Does anyone remember that Kia Ora ad that used to be on the telly? Jesus

    How that ever made it onto the screens will always remain a mystery. That was first shown in 1982. Unbelievable that it was that recent.


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