2016-17 UEFA Champions League

GreNoLi · 15-02-2017 10:37PM

Hard to judge bayern based on that, did what they had to against the weakest side mentally in the knockout stage.

GavRedKing · 15-02-2017 10:38PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I smell a Chelsea fans dirty mitts
Hands off :P

Id love him but they wont sell to an English side. If they lose him and ozil theyll struggle badly because they wont replace them.

Andersonisgod · 15-02-2017 10:38PM

Rezident wrote: »

Arsenals players have so badly let down Wenger. Yet again. He should leave because his players don't deserve him.

Taking all the blame off Wenger is silly given how long he's been at the club and how often and spectacularly they've failed since 2004.

Jan_de_Bakker · 15-02-2017 10:39PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Good chance the intended meaning of the headline is more subtle and nuanced than your simple direct translation.

No it's not, that paper it's always looking for excuses for barcas losses - it's usually the other team didn't play football, but couldn´t exactly say that when PSG played them off the park and should've won 11-0...

SlickRic · 15-02-2017 10:40PM

Football has passed Wenger by.

Harry Palmr · 15-02-2017 10:40PM

How many seasons have they gone out at this stage, 5,6 years?

GavRedKing · 15-02-2017 10:40PM

Dunphy talking sense for a change. Hamann too.

GavRedKing · 15-02-2017 10:41PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

How many seasons have they gone out at this stage, 5,6 years?

This will be the 6th. Last time they went through was 2010 against Porto I think.

GreNoLi · 15-02-2017 10:42PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Dunphy talking sense for a change. Hamann too.

Synopsis?

Rte player is as broken as ever.

ERG89 · 15-02-2017 10:43PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Dunphy talking sense for a change. Hamann too.

They are both dressed the same too.

blueser · 15-02-2017 10:43PM

Christ; Arsenal were poor. But you won't catch me crowing about it; we've got to face Monaco next week, who are flying this season.

GavRedKing · 15-02-2017 10:44PM

GreNoLi wrote: »

Synopsis?

Rte player is as broken as ever.

He said no cover for Kos, whos a real leader and it wasnt good enough for the competition. Bringing on Gabriel isnt good enough cover and that they fell apart all too easily.

Paraphrasing though.

Nerdlingr · 15-02-2017 10:44PM

Xhaka is an awful player. 35m for a lad that does nothing but consistently foul? Himself.and mustafi have been horrible big money signings that haven't added anything to the team.

Andersonisgod · 15-02-2017 10:45PM

Way too much talk on both RTE and BT about lack of character, lack of fight and lack of leaders. All of that might be true but neither channel has pinpointed just how woeful Arsenal are tactically, particularly when they get shown up by the big teams.

GavRedKing · 15-02-2017 10:47PM

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Way too much talk on both RTE and BT about lack of character, lack of fight and lack of leaders. All of that might be true but neither channel has pinpointed just how woeful Arsenal are tactically, particularly when they get shown up by the big teams.

Sadlier has mentioned Wenger in fairness and the buck has to stop with Wenger, IMO.

GreNoLi · 15-02-2017 10:47PM

Warren Barton says he has to go.

GavRedKing · 15-02-2017 10:48PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Xhaka is an awful player. 35m for a lad that does nothing but consistently foul? Himself.and mustafi have been horrible big money signings that haven't added anything to the team.

Dunphy agrees with ya on Xhaka and Mustafi.

ERG89 · 15-02-2017 10:49PM

Andersonisgod wrote:

Way too much talk on both RTE and BT about lack of character, lack of fight and lack of leaders. All of that might be true but neither channel has pinpointed just how woeful Arsenal are tactically, particularly when they get shown up by the big teams.

Dunphy said he ran to the phone to make a bet :pac:

Andersonisgod · 15-02-2017 10:50PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Sadlier has mentioned Wenger in fairness and the buck has to stop with Wenger, IMO.

He has to be fair, though I would still say he's talking about Wenger in the sense of leadership ect. Nobody talking about the ridiculously disjointed pressing, the massive spaces they always leave open between the lines, their susceptibility to the counter attack, their total failure to be able to build up their play without playing themselves into trouble. Such basic defensive mishaps. All those things are, and always have been, as important, if not more important, than the leadership stuff.

theoneeyedman · 15-02-2017 10:51PM

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Way too much talk on both RTE and BT about lack of character, lack of fight and lack of leaders. All of that might be true but neither channel has pinpointed just how woeful Arsenal are tactically, particularly when they get shown up by the big teams.

This.

Some very ordinary players at Arsenal. Take sanchez out of it and how many would make the other top 6 teams automatically. Kochelney? (all bar Chelsea) Ozil? (if he had his head right). Nobody else is top bracket, would be decent squad players at the top level but many would fit in grand at Stoke or Everton and not stand out IMHO.

Turtwig · 15-02-2017 10:51PM

Sooooo Luis Enrique to Arsenal, Wenger to Barcelona then? :P

The Golden Miller · 15-02-2017 10:51PM

I was expecting Arsenal to be up for that game, but that was just pathetic. Glad they got hammered after seeing their attitude. Made Bayern look like world beaters. Completely inept

As for the other game, it seemed once Napoli got a goal they were content to sit back without having much ambition to push their players forward when they did have the ball. 2-1 would probably have been a fairer result though. Hard to see how the second leg will go. Napoli obviously wanted to take this back to Naples with an away goal and bring the game to Madrid on home soil in a hostile stadium, but shipping 3 goals now makes it very difficult. They will dominate the game and maybe score a few, but Madrid will be happy to sit back and will feel confident about getting a goal on the break

Once again, when a goal isn't put at Ronaldo's feet, he's shown to be completely out of his dept at this level. A passenger watching the game go by

GreNoLi · 15-02-2017 10:54PM

Some strike by Casameiro.

Andersonisgod · 15-02-2017 10:54PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Sooooo Luis Enrique to Arsenal, Wenger to Barcelona then? :P

Might as well. Like for like basically. Can't hide how bitter I am that La Masia product Thiago Alcantara is playing a stormer in the knockout round of the CL while Barça labour with Andre Gomes starting in midfield.

castletownman · 15-02-2017 10:55PM

I think what encapsulates the lack of leadership currently in Arsenal's squad is the fact that Kieran Gibbs took the armband when Kosc went off. I mean he struggles to get a consistent run in the team, is bang average when he does, and his onfield demeanour doesn't exactly scream "leader".

An Adams or a Vieira he certainly ain't.

Nerdlingr · 15-02-2017 10:55PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Dunphy agrees with ya on Xhaka and Mustafi.

He knows his stuff does dunphy in fairness! ðŸ˜œ

They have been awful signings though, especially the money involved. Xhaka was brought in to add steel midfield and has done shag all but needlessly gey booked or sent off every second week. Looks miles off the pace any time I've seen him.play.

Turtwig · 15-02-2017 11:02PM

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Might as well. Like for like basically. Can't hide how bitter I am that La Masia product Thiago Alcantara is playing a stormer in the knockout round of the CL while Barça labour with Andre Gomes starting in midfield.

Gomes is a very good player just questionable whether he can adapt to Barca. Though to be fair to him that often takes players quite some time. Enrique's insistence of playing him though in such vital match was mind boggling. Especially when Rakitic after muscular issues was looking to be in pretty darn good form again.

Hard to say how much of a "stormer" Thiago had, Arsenal basically let them have the freedom of the pitch in many extents.

The Golden Miller · 15-02-2017 11:15PM

From a Bayern perspective going forward, their players would genuinely fear playing the likes of Ingolstadt and Darmstadt more than Arsenal at this stage. It's sad that Arsenal have become such an international joke

MisterAnarchy · 15-02-2017 11:34PM

Dunphy writing Messi off, yet again.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 15-02-2017 11:34PM

Until I read that Dunphy was criticizing Xhaka I didn't actually realize he was playing tonight.That probably says it all.

2016-17 UEFA Champions League

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