New drink driving laws - 3 mth ban no more points

worded · 14-02-2017 11:52PM #1

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cabinet-approves-new-drink-driving-legislation-777105.html

So can you have a pint of Guinness and a meal and a pint of water
Wait 1 hour and you are under ? Or is it 0 alcohol allowed ?

Thanks

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 15-02-2017 12:04AM

The penalty will change not what constitutes an offence.

Grandeeod · 15-02-2017 12:05AM

worded wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cabinet-approves-new-drink-driving-legislation-777105.html

So can you have a pint of Guinness and a meal and a pint of water
Wait 1 hour and you are under ? Or is it 0 alcohol allowed ?

Thanks

Over the limit means automatic ban. I reckon its only a matter of time before any alcohol in the system will mean a prosecution.

ABC101 · 15-02-2017 12:17AM

Remember it's a ban for being over a legal limit, not necessarily being drunk behind the wheel.

If the limit is reduced further, more drivers will fail the blood Alcohol test / breath test. The RSA would then complain at the number of drivers failing the test and demand that the limit be reduced further, which would mean more drivers fail the test and son on and on and on.

The RSA will never understand that the harder a test is to pass, the higher the failure rate.

Self driving cars need to come quick before the entire population gets banned.

allthedoyles · 15-02-2017 12:21AM

With Garda discretion been taken away , there be no leeway on this one . Good time to invest in recovery vehicles , I presume if you over limit you cannot drive any further .

I hate the 8am checkpoints , think its lousy .

sdanseo · 15-02-2017 12:24AM

allthedoyles wrote: »

With Garda discretion been taken away , there be no leeway on this one . Good time to invest in recovery vehicles , I presume if you over limit you cannot drive any further .

I hate the 8am checkpoints , think its lousy .

You could just not drink and drive, then you'd have nothing to be worried about.

drunkmonkey · 15-02-2017 12:24AM

When it says 3mts off the road, I presume that's not until your convicted or is it straight away, I'd assume you can challenge it?

drunkmonkey · 15-02-2017 12:25AM

sdanseo wrote: »

You could just not drink and drive, then you'd have nothing to be worried about.

Or just do it in the rain or between shifts.

worded · 15-02-2017 12:25AM

How soon will self driving cars become a reality ?

Grandeeod · 15-02-2017 12:26AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

When it says 3mts off the road, I presume that's not until your convicted or is it straight away, I'd assume you can challenge it?

Yep. That would be upon conviction. Usual laws still apply.

drunkmonkey · 15-02-2017 12:28AM

worded wrote: »

How soon will self driving cars become a reality ?

A long long way away, there will always need to be a coheriant pilot as a spare

When does Ireland get a public transport system to be proud of?

worded · 15-02-2017 12:29AM

I can and do havie a single pint (pref guinness midnstrengh)
Pint of water chaser
Wait one - two hour and drive once / twice a mth mid week

It's such a lovely great treat

Would be sad to see that go

Live too far from pubs to walk and taxi too expensive to justify

diomed · 15-02-2017 12:33AM

There is a bit of an obsession with drink driving. Is it just because it is easy to detect? I'm for bans but there should be some sense shown when the result is marginal. I would like big bans for multiple offences.
How many accidents are caused by driving on drugs (prescription or other), or driving when sleep deprived.

NIMAN · 15-02-2017 12:37AM

Although this change would not really worry me personally, I do not understand the idea of people trying to calculate if they can have 1 pint and still be ok.

Are do really need that pint? Can you not have a meal without a drink?
Many times when I have been out, I forego the single pint or glass of wine, as it would make me want another!

I don't understand trying to push it for the sake of your licence, maybe your livelihood, for the taste of one drink.

drunkmonkey · 15-02-2017 12:45AM

Some people don't give a feck especially pensioners.

worded · 15-02-2017 12:53AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Although this change would not really worry me personally, I do not understand the idea of people trying to calculate if they can have 1 pint and still be ok.

Are do really need that pint? Can you not have a meal without a drink?
Many times when I have been out, I forego the single pint or glass of wine, as it would make me want another!

I don't understand trying to push it for the sake of your licence, maybe your livelihood, for the taste of one drink.

I drink very little but I don't want
To have no life

I can have 1 pint and
Stop

99% of the time
I eat with no alcohol

DrumSteve · 15-02-2017 12:58AM

worded wrote: »

I drink very little but I don't want
To have no life

I can have 1 pint and
Stop

99% of the time
I eat with no alcohol

I feel like that's a riddle

NIMAN · 15-02-2017 01:01AM

worded wrote: »

I drink very little but I don't want
To have no life

I can have 1 pint and
Stop

99% of the time
I eat with no alcohol

To equate not drinking = no life is a little OTT.

I never said don't have a drink, but I think anyone who does it when they have the car with them is plain stupid. Many think "sure I'm ok to have one pint", but why even bother? Why take the risk?

If you can take 1 pint and stop, then do you really need that one pint.

Atlantic Dawn · 15-02-2017 01:05AM

Hopefully there's a public record of everyone done for drink driving, there was talk of this coming in too, name and shame will be good deterrent too.

ABC101 · 15-02-2017 01:07AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Although this change would not really worry me personally, I do not understand the idea of people trying to calculate if they can have 1 pint and still be ok.

Are do really need that pint? Can you not have a meal without a drink?
Many times when I have been out, I forego the single pint or glass of wine, as it would make me want another!

I don't understand trying to push it for the sake of your licence, maybe your livelihood, for the taste of one drink.

It's not a case of needing that one pint.

It's a case of loosing ones job/ livelihood / career because you had ONE pint / glass of wine.

Such is the puritanical state Ireland is turning into.

BunkMoreland · 15-02-2017 01:20AM

Is there really much harm in having a few drinks and driving? I mean really? It's not as if you're going to drive straight into the wall or anything. If you're langered then yeah not a good idea but after 2 or 3? I've never done it but I've completed much more complicated tasks than driving after a few.

jimmycrackcorm · 15-02-2017 01:23AM

sdanseo wrote:

You could just not drink and drive, then you'd have nothing to be worried about.

I'd happily agree with you if you can tell me exactly how long I need to wait until I can drive.

Tigger · 15-02-2017 01:26AM

the new limit is stupid low
there is no evidence that people at the low level have accidents

most of the high alcohol deaths are suscides so the incorrect reporting is skewing the results

however drinking and driving is stupid so i'm sorta glad this is the result, driving is complicated and people should be more responsaible

Tigger · 15-02-2017 01:27AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I'd happily agree with you if you can tell me exactly how long I need to wait until I can drive.

you burn off about half a unit an hour
so if you drink 6 pints in 5 hours from 7-12
you have ingested 12 units
so you are clea (carrying 0 units) by 7 pm the next day

what do you weigh so i can tell you how many units you can carry to be under the new limit

wotzgoingon · 15-02-2017 01:31AM

I was breathalysed one time and I hadn't drank in about two weeks guard asked me when I had a drink and I told him and he said you were drinking tonight as my level was up. I said I wasn't and he didn't believe me. Going by that I wouldn't want to even drink one pint and then drive as I would probably register as after drinking a few pints.

Tigger · 15-02-2017 01:34AM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I was breathalysed one time and I hadn't drank in about two weeks guard asked me when I had a drink and I told him and he said you were drinking tonight as my level was up. I said I wasn't and he didn't believe me. Going by that I wouldn't want to even drink one pint and then drive as I would probably register as after drinking a few pints.

were you on a diet?
the keytones that you bfreath out in a fat burning state can confuse a breath tester

wotzgoingon · 15-02-2017 01:35AM

Tigger wrote: »

were you on a diet?
the keytones that you bfreath out in a fat burning state can confuse a breath tester

No but I am on medication so maybe that effected the reading.

Mongfinder General · 15-02-2017 01:36AM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I was breathalysed one time and I hadn't drank in about two weeks guard asked me when I had a drink and I told him and he said you were drinking tonight as my level was up. I said I wasn't and he didn't believe me. Going by that I wouldn't want to even drink one pint and then drive as I would probably register as after drinking a few pints.

You must be serious ale tank for that to happen. 2 weeks is some stretch.

wotzgoingon · 15-02-2017 01:38AM

Mongfinder General wrote: »

You must be serious ale tank for that to happen. 2 weeks is some stretch.

Often done it. Depends on my mood. Sometimes I fancy a few pints or cans of Smithwicks other times I could go with out.

Tigger · 15-02-2017 01:39AM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

No but I am on medication so maybe that effected the reading.

Mongfinder General wrote: »

You must be serious ale tank for that to happen. 2 weeks is some stretch.

certain meds could affect the breath results but if you havent have a drink simply explaing your case and request a blood test

eeguy · 15-02-2017 01:45AM

ABC101 wrote: »

It's not a case of needing that one pint.

It's a case of loosing ones job/ livelihood / career because you had ONE pint / glass of wine.

Such is the puritanical state Ireland is turning into.

ONE pint / glass of wine AND making a conscious decision to break the law. Just because you feel like you'll be grand to drive is no excuse to break the law.

BunkMoreland wrote: »

Is there really much harm in having a few drinks and driving? I mean really? It's not as if you're going to drive straight into the wall or anything. If you're langered then yeah not a good idea but after 2 or 3? I've never done it but I've completed much more complicated tasks than driving after a few.

It's nowt to do with complexity. It's to do with attentiveness and reaction times, which are lower after a drink.

New drink driving laws - 3 mth ban no more points

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