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Discovery-Sky dispute (Now resolved)

  • 25-01-2017 08:47PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.seenit.co.uk/discovery-threatens-to-pull-channels-from-sky-in-carriage-dispute/


    Sky viewers could soon see Discovery’s portfolio of 12 channels – including
    Discovery, Animal Planet, Investigation Discovery, DMAX, Home and Health and Discovery Turbo – vanish from their EPGs after the two broadcasters failed to reach agreement on a new carriage deal.

    In a statement issued on Wednesday night, Discovery says talks to agree a new deal with the UK’s largest pay-TV brand “have reached an impasse” and accuses Sky of using “its dominant market position” to avoid paying a fair price for its channels and content.

    According to Discovery, the firm is now paid less than it was 10 years ago, despite the fact that Sky households are paying much more than they did in 2007.
    Responding to Discovery’s comments, Sky has accused the channel owner of making “completely unrealistic” demands from it and other pay-TV providers and claimed falling interest in Discovery’s linear-only channels meant it had been “overpaying Discovery for years”.

    Surely SKY would have done something before now if this were actually the case

    /
    Discovery has reassured BT and Virgin Media customers that they will continue to have access to the channels as it has separate long-term agreements in place with those brands

    Interesting piece - is this what happens when the only game in satellite town
    is SKY or is this what happens when SKY's biggest spend, football rights, has gone through the roof in the last decade.


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Comments

  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why doesn't Discovery just go FTA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    Discovery Networks UK & Ireland threaten to pull their channels off the Sky platform...:eek:

    http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2017/01/discovery-threatens-pull-channels-sky-platform-carriage-negotiations-break/

    If they do, bye bye Sky!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Why doesn't Discovery just go FTA?

    less revenue from advertisers id say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭curryman


    Defo will be bye bye Sky and not not even if they offered half price will i stay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭dublinbusdude


    Are they going to be pulled from Virgin Media too?

    Just say it on the my Sky account when I logged in!! - no more Wheeler Dealers


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Announced tonight by Sky that all Discovery and Eurosport channels are being pulled from the Sky digital package as of Wednesday 1st February.

    merged threads


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    No, doesn't affect Virgin (which is why thread is moved to satellite and merged with thread there)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭dublinbusdude


    icdg wrote: »
    Announced tonight by Sky that all Discovery and Eurosport channels are being pulled from the Sky digital package as of Wednesday 1st February.

    Will they be pulled from Virgin Media?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    See two posts above...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Will they be pulled from Virgin Media?

    Read the ****ing thread! :pac:
    Chris ChoiVerified account
    @Chrisitv · 18m18 minutes ago
    Sky has tonight told me it will be dropping Discovery from it's channels from next Tuesday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭dublinbusdude


    Thanks icdg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,111 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    No longer an encrypted channel on 28.2e?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,111 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    icdg wrote: »
    Announced tonight by Sky that all Discovery and Eurosport channels are being pulled from the Sky digital package as of Wednesday 1st February.

    merged threads

    In the same few months as subscription prices are going up


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    They are not just dropping encryption afaik - they are leaving Astra at 28.2E altogether. FTA is not their strategy - certainly not Eurosport's (nothwithstanding their different strategy in the German language market).

    I can see a lot of Sky customers calling to drop from Variety to Original after 1 Feb. There's no value in the bigger pack now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭dublinbusdude


    icdg wrote: »
    I can see a lot of Sky customers calling to drop from Variety to Original after 1 Feb. There's no value in the bigger pack now.

    Or ringing up Virgin Media to get a deal on their version on the pack


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Sky say they will be showing documentaries if the impasse remains - given the junk that Discovery serves up these days for the most part who knows it could actually improve SKY's output for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭satguy


    Discovery was a great channel years back,,,just re hashed rubbish now... that show with the auctioned off storage units does my head in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    ^^ you can throw History and Nat Geo into that mix as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    From SKY...
    Important information - Changes to your Sky channels
    What is changing?
    From 1 February, Discovery Communications’ portfolio of channels will no longer be available in Sky TV packages.
    Which channels does this include?
    In the UK and Ireland, this includes Animal Planet, Discovery HD, Discovery History, Discovery Home & Health, Discovery Science, Discovery Shed, Discovery Turbo, DMAX, Eurosport1, Eurosport2, Investigation Discovery, Quest and TLC.
    Can I still watch now?
    Yes, the channels will be available until 1 February. Sky has chosen not to renew its contract with Discovery, and at any point from 1 February, Discovery can remove them from the Sky platform.
    Why can I no longer watch these channels on Sky?
    Despite our efforts to reach a sensible agreement with Discovery, this hasn’t been possible. We’ve therefore taken the decision not to renew this contract.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭curryman


    satguy wrote: »
    Discovery was a great channel years back,,,just re hashed rubbish now... that show with the auctioned off storage units does my head in.

    i enjoy the ch but its not just one we loose. The eurosports as well. not to everyones taste but still good sports ch,s will be a sad loss for a good few


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭mike2084


    Eurosport is the big bargaining chip in this, the affected sports bodies are not going to be pleased with this. Take World Snooker for example, they made a big commitment to Eurosport as 'The Home of Snooker', but now their potential audience is cut by 66%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,934 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    where i am going to get my fix of gold rush. This is huge news at least someone is standing up to Sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    irishgeo wrote: »
    where i am going to get my fix of gold rush. This is huge news at least someone is standing up to Sky.
    Yeah thinking about gold rush too..just watching the latest episode..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭swoofer


    are sky reducing prices to match, it should work both ways?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,111 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    The quality of those channels has been deteriorating for a while now.. just reruns of clones of clones. Just how many body shop shows are really needed.

    Plus staged reality is tedious in the extreme.

    I will miss Eurosport's winter sports coverage though. Loved watching the downhill and ski-jumping. They were the only broadcaster covering it in any depth. 30 mins of downhill on BBC is a token gesture.

    Glad I don't pay Sky for those channels as it is anyway.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    mike2084 wrote: »
    Eurosport is the big bargaining chip in this, the affected sports bodies are not going to be pleased with this. Take World Snooker for example, they made a big commitment to Eurosport as 'The Home of Snooker', but now their potential audience is cut by 66%.

    The IOC might be the most annoyed, though the sublicence deal to the BBC might have helped.

    Sports fans who want access to "everything" might be in a bit of bind now as there's no one platform that will give you all sports channels. Eir/Vodafone are the closest but you won't get Sky F1 or Sky Sports Mix. That said, Eurosport's focus tends to be on individual sports like tennis, snooker, athletics, cycling etc whereas the bigger sports channels tend to prefer team sports like rugby, football, GAA etc. The audience is different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,807 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    swoofer wrote: »
    are sky reducing prices to match, it should work both ways?

    I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Sky's prices only go one way.

    This is indeed what happens when you massively overpay for premier league rights to try and squeeze out BT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    swoofer wrote: »
    are sky reducing prices to match, it should work both ways?

    Sky announces price rises in March and April

    http://www.a516digital.com/2017/01/sky-announces-price-rises-in-march-and.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Is it possible Discovery would become part of BT Sport offering on Sky?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    The Cush wrote: »
    In the UK though....


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