Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

deadduck · 19-01-2017 03:02PM

Otacon wrote: »

Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app

An 'elegant solution' to a problem that shouldn't exist.

that's balls.

why isn't there just a mic on the switch (or controllers), and the matchmaking, etc just built-in, like the Wii U??

are they seriously saying you'll need to have your phone handy to play mario kart, splatoon, etc, online?? i must be missing something here...

sligeach · 19-01-2017 03:04PM

Otacon wrote: »

Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app

An 'elegant solution' to a problem that shouldn't exist.

It's absolute crap if you've to use your phone when it's docked. I think Nintendo are doing it this way because of children. I bet it'll need a rake of personal information. It's another negative against the Switch.

Andrew76 · 19-01-2017 03:22PM

deadduck wrote: »

are they seriously saying you'll need to have your phone handy to play mario kart, splatoon, etc, online?? i must be missing something here...

That's what it sounds like alright but maybe there's more details to come yet:

The important takeaway from this interview is the apparent fact that all of your typical online interactions will be facilitated by the application. This begs the question of which, if any, of these are usable without the app?

Also, "bulky gamer headset"? Reggie needs to come into the 21st century. :rolleyes:

Did anyone else notice the bottom of the link? The Switch is out March 3rd but the app won't be available until summer? So either there'll be no games out before then that will need match making or voice chat, or the Switch itself will handle (which it doesn't sound like it does).

The Nintendo Switch launches in March, but the app won’t be available until Summer. With Mario Kart 8 Deluxe available in April, we’ll likely know more in-depth details about what’s possible without the app soon enough.

Presumably there's a headphone jack on the Switch itself (seeing as the ads show actors wearing headphones) - but when docked at home - is there a jack on the joy-cons or grip or pro controller?

CiDeRmAn · 19-01-2017 03:35PM

sligeach wrote: »

It's absolute crap if you've to use your phone when it's docked. I think Nintendo are doing it this way because of children. I bet it'll need a rake of personal information. It's another negative against the Switch.

I suppose the idea is that there's no switching regardless of where you are playing, the console will be always using your phones connection.
Perhaps there'll be more options, especially where you don't have a phone handy.
If you're decided to be old enough to own a smart device, then you can install the app and talk smack to others online, if you aren't, or the parental controls are in effect, it'll block little Jimmy from Arkansas calling your mother a durty ho during a race in MK8.

Star Lord · 19-01-2017 03:54PM

So Reggie says it's too awkward to take out a headset... but how do you use the chat on the app? Headset, or else loudspeaker? Screw that!
I'm hoping that they've got it built into the console itself too, or else they'll have a lot of backlash on it, and have to include that in an update!

mayordenis · 19-01-2017 04:34PM

Weird that gamestop and others are offering preorders for a headset for the Switch, if it's just your phone there wouldn't be any need. Not saying it's wrong, but I think we've yet to get the definitive story here.

Corholio · 19-01-2017 04:36PM

I think they'll have to be some form of it on the console as using a separate device would contradict the portability of it. Hopefully it's just if you need to take it out, and that there is some use of it on the Switch itself. I like the fact that they are focusing just on the gaming element for now, but that would be a needless problem to make for themselves if its not someway built into the Switch. Hopefully this is cleared up soon, with the UI and online yet to be talked about, hopefully it will soon.

sligeach · 19-01-2017 05:01PM

The 5 Biggest Problems With The Nintendo Switch

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/01/19/the-5-biggest-problems-with-the-nintendo-switch/#484787277891

I agree with all of the points.

CiDeRmAn · 19-01-2017 05:02PM

I suppose, if we think about the likes of the 3DS and Vita, and the online gaming components of each, it's a bit sh1te really.
At home, you're grand, you access your home network and bobs your uncle, but once you wander off on your own, somehow evading the checkpoints, you are offline, unless you hook up to your phone's data stream, or have the gsm Vita.
The adoption of the hotspot idea for the Switch possibly makes it a little simpler, though I'd say the at home stuff is a little different.
Then again, if they want to avoid you having to reconnect when you go from in the home to on the go gaming, maybe the link via your smart device at all times is a way to do it.
It does limit the functionality of the console to those with a smart device, and given that there's a significant market of younger players that would want to use the Switch, it could freeze them out of certain features.
We'll just have to wait for clarification, not too long now before the console is in our sweaty paws!

ebbsy · 19-01-2017 05:08PM

I d'ont think its too much to ask to have one decent controller with a console upon purchase.

pasta-solo · 19-01-2017 05:12PM

ebbsy wrote: »

I d'ont think its too much to ask to have one decent controller with a console upon purchase.

Hasn't everyone been very happy with the joycons so far? They combine to make one controller, or can be used for two player in their smaller form.

Corholio · 19-01-2017 05:19PM

sligeach wrote: »

The 5 Biggest Problems With The Nintendo Switch

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/01/19/the-5-biggest-problems-with-the-nintendo-switch/#484787277891

I agree with all of the points.

I see a trend developing of negative lists about the Switch and you agreeing with 'all of the points', must be the 3rd list? at this stage. Many having the same points repeated.

Digital Solitude · 19-01-2017 05:26PM

ebbsy wrote: »

I d'ont think its too much to ask to have one decent controller with a console upon purchase.

There's two Joy-Cons and an adapter included

FAILSAFE 00 · 19-01-2017 05:27PM

Digital Solitude wrote: »

There's two Joy-Cons and an adapter included

He mentioned a "Decent controller"

Star Lord · 19-01-2017 05:30PM

So, despite never having had hands-on with those, you're already saying they're not 'decent' controllers? How do you come to that conclusion?

johnpatrick81 · 19-01-2017 05:32PM

they seem to be getting universal praise(the joy-cons)

Digital Solitude · 19-01-2017 05:33PM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

they seem to be getting universal praise(the joy-cons)

As well as a battery life longer than about 3 hours. For that alone I'll take them over any other wireless controller.

readyletsgo · 19-01-2017 05:35PM

Corholio wrote: »

I see a trend developing of negative lists about the Switch and you agreeing with 'all of the points', must be the 3rd list? at this stage. Many having the same points repeated.

It has its points, but we haven't got the full list of 3rd party support yet, so, there will be loads more announced for 2017 I'm sure. Sire loads of games have been announced since the switch thing on the 13th with 2017 as a release date, some even for launch day. Which means the eshop will be live and hopefully brought up to day and easy to navigate, which, I never had a problem with on both WiiU and 3ds.

The online model, sure they have only said they are going to introduce paid online, and a few bullet points about it. I'm sure there is a hell of a lot more they have to announce for their online plans. Did they ACTUALLY say they would give then take back two nes and snes games each month?

I totally agree there should be a pack in game, take the hit Nintendo and get the system into people's homes. 1-2 Switch, €60, wouldn't pay €10 for it personally.

The price of accessories is high due to launch. Yes, they are very high but ps4 and xbone controllers cost 80euro at launch too. The prices will go down over the next year.

As for storage, they said the switch will take up to 2tb micro SD cards in the future, so, future proofed.

A little research makes a better rag article.

Ol' Donie · 19-01-2017 05:45PM

This is all gone a bit mad.

The joy cons are one of the biggest draws for me. I've used billions of pro controllers style yokes. Nothing new there at all.

Banjo · 19-01-2017 05:46PM

Much as I hate the doom and gloom-mongering, and the salacious eagerness in gaming press to defecate all over the Nintendo parade, I don't think "rag" is fair. He makes the 2TB point himself, on 3rd party support he's specifically referring to latest updates of popular FPS franchises of which there is no sign, and ties that in to why he feels paid online is a losing proposition if there aren't enough mass-market compelling online multiplayer games. (Or any at all, when you consider that Mariokart and Splatoon are free-to-play if you stick to your WiiU).

I've read worse, and in fairness there's an air of nervous optimism that gave a voice to the vague rumblings my wallet has been making every time I open this thread.

magnumbud · 19-01-2017 05:47PM

readyletsgo wrote: »

It has its points, but we haven't got the full list of 3rd party support yet, so, there will be loads more announced for 2017 I'm sure. Sire loads of games have been announced since the switch thing on the 13th with 2017 as a release date, some even for launch day. Which means the eshop will be live and hopefully brought up to day and easy to navigate, which, I never had a problem with on both WiiU and 3ds.

this is something that people have been harping on about that is like they are taking that list that nintendo games of games coming out this year as thats its for the year. it was a sampling of games coming out. e3 is a few months away and will likely reveal a load of more games. nintendo have in recent years gotten into the habit of not announcing games til 6 or so months before release. i would likely expect some version of COD to be on it be it a port of an existing one or the one that will likely come out at the end of this year

FAILSAFE 00 · 19-01-2017 05:49PM

Star Lord wrote: »

So, despite never having had hands-on with those, you're already saying they're not 'decent' controllers? How do you come to that conclusion?

IMO what they mean by decent controller is the traditional style of controller. Think Xbox 360 and Nintendo Pro controller.

Not little tic tac handheld yokey bobs controllers

I think they should have the pro controller with the bundle since they are marketing it as a home console as well as portable console.

dunworth1 · 19-01-2017 05:50PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

IMO what they mean by decent controller is the traditional style of controller. Think Xbox 360 and Nintendo Pro controller.

Not little tic tac handheld yokey bobs controllers

why does it have to be traditional to be decent?

FAILSAFE 00 · 19-01-2017 05:55PM

dunworth1 wrote: »

why does it have to be traditional to be decent?

Because its better

Digital Solitude · 19-01-2017 05:56PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

IMO what they mean by decent controller is the traditional style of controller. Think Xbox 360 and Nintendo Pro controller.

Not little tic tac handheld yokey bobs controllers

I think they should have the pro controller with the bundle since they are marketing it as a home console as well as portable console.

There's an adapter so the joycons can be used like a traditional controller.

If they had the Pro Controller included too, the price would be up on €500.

For every one person complaining about the price you've another saying they should have more included, driving the price up more.

Corholio · 19-01-2017 05:57PM

The Joy Cons with the dock make a traditional enough controller, maybe not as superb as the Pro Controller is being viewed as, but pretty decent all the same it seems. Hopefully they can implement the HD Rumble sufficiently in games to make it an attractable choice for players because the 'count the marbles' game that demoed on 1-2 Switch has blown a lot of people away with the multiple rumble feel.

MilesMorales1 · 19-01-2017 05:57PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Because its better

Looks good to me.

magnumbud · 19-01-2017 05:57PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Because its better

Corholio · 19-01-2017 05:59PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Because its better

Not counting the grip? Hmmm

FAILSAFE 00 · 19-01-2017 05:59PM

Digital Solitude wrote: »

There's an adapter so the joycons can be used like a traditional controller.

If they had the Pro Controller included too, the price would be up on €500.

For every one person complaining about the price you've another saying they should have more included, driving the price up more.

Its should be included in the price. I would have preferred they sell the full experience instead of needing to buy all the extra bits and bobs that really make the Switch shine.

Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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