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Woman dies from bacteria resistant to all forms of antibiotic

  • 18-01-2017 03:32PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭


    The woman died from a a form of multi-drug resistant Enterobacteriaceae. In other words there was nothing doctors could do to save her. To quote a line from the article "Many doctors, dentists, farmers and animal caretakers continue to overuse antibiotics, leading to more and more antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Infections are very, very, very common". It's also down to the exclusive nature of the American health care service. If you make it harder for some people to access treatment then there's an increased likelihood that people will act as reservoirs for bacteria that can continue to mutate. IMHO, in order to combat this you'll need to treat everyone with certain bacterial infections and there may need to be controls on what doctors can prescribe. Article from Forbes if anyone' interested.

    Welcome to the future...a bad future. In September 2016, a female in her 70s died from an infection caused by carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae (CRE), bacteria that was resistant to all available antibiotics. Yes, resistant to all available antibiotics. Yes, doctors could do nothing to stop her infection. Yes, a bad infection from such bacteria can kill you no matter how rich or famous you are, what apps you have on your phone or social media sites you frequent, what kind of walls you build, how many nuclear weapons you have or how many other medications, procedures, herbs, supplements, chiropractic adjustments, face lifts, cupping sessions, urine drinks, leech treatments, cryotherapy sessions or massages you get. This is the first appearance in the U.S. of such an uber-resistant bacteria (meaning resistant to all antibiotics and not to drivers and cars for hire.) Yes, more and more will appear in the future. No, this is not trending on Twitter or Facebook. No, this is not getting nearly as much attention as the seemingly science-resistant anti-vaccine talk. Why, then, aren't more people taking this seriously and making the urgent changes needed?

    Nevada health officials Lei Chen, Ph.D., Randall Todd, Dr.P.H., and Julia Kiehlbauch, Ph.D., and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) officials Maroya Walters, Ph.D., and Alexander Kallen, M.D., described the case and events in a recent issue of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR). The woman had broken her right leg during a trip to India, struggled with repeated right hip infections while there and then, after her return to the U.S., was admitted to a hospital in the Reno, Nevada, area on August 18 when her infection had progressed to affect her entire body. The CRE found to be causing in the infection was resistant to 26 antibiotics, including all aminoglycosides and polymyxins tested. With no effective antibiotics available, she eventually went into septic shock and died.

    Consider this latest case yet another warning to society. Scientists and public health officials have been trying to get the attention of policy makers, investors, pharmaceutical companies and the public. Many public health officials, including CDC Director Tom Frieden, have called CRE the "phantom menace." Our RHEA computational modeling work published in the American Journal of Epidemiology has shown how CRE will continue to spread more and more throughout hospitals and nursing homes, unless something changes.

    Once again, we are losing the war against bacteria. New antibiotic development is just not keeping pace with the emergence of new antibiotic-resistant bacterial strains. As I mentioned previously when a colistin-resistant bacterial strain appeared in Pennsylvania last year, a Pew Charitable Trust report found that too few antibiotics are under development, and a majority of antibiotics are being developed by small companies, not big pharmaceutical companies. Many big pharmaceutical companies are just not stepping up to the challenge. Many doctors, dentists, farmers and animal caretakers continue to overuse antibiotics, leading to more and more antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Infections are very, very, very common. You will in all likelihood get an infection that requires antibiotics at some point in your life. What if the next time you get an infection, nothing works against it...and thus you're out of luck?


    The Phantom Menace bacteria, Carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae (CRE), is spreading and our society is running out of antibiotics. Does everyone realize how bad this is? (Melissa Brower/Centers for Disease Control and Prevention via AP)

    Welcome to the future...a bad future. In September 2016, a female in her 70s died from an infection caused by carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae (CRE), bacteria that was resistant to all available antibiotics. Yes, resistant to all available antibiotics. Yes, doctors could do nothing to stop her infection. Yes, a bad infection from such bacteria can kill you no matter how rich or famous you are, what apps you have on your phone or social media sites you frequent, what kind of walls you build, how many nuclear weapons you have or how many other medications, procedures, herbs, supplements, chiropractic adjustments, face lifts, cupping sessions, urine drinks, leech treatments, cryotherapy sessions or massages you get. This is the first appearance in the U.S. of such an uber-resistant bacteria (meaning resistant to all antibiotics and not to drivers and cars for hire.) Yes, more and more will appear in the future. No, this is not trending on Twitter or Facebook. No, this is not getting nearly as much attention as the seemingly science-resistant anti-vaccine talk. Why, then, aren't more people taking this seriously and making the urgent changes needed?

    Nevada health officials Lei Chen, Ph.D., Randall Todd, Dr.P.H., and Julia Kiehlbauch, Ph.D., and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) officials Maroya Walters, Ph.D., and Alexander Kallen, M.D., described the case and events in a recent issue of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR). The woman had broken her right leg during a trip to India, struggled with repeated right hip infections while there and then, after her return to the U.S., was admitted to a hospital in the Reno, Nevada, area on August 18 when her infection had progressed to affect her entire body. The CRE found to be causing in the infection was resistant to 26 antibiotics, including all aminoglycosides and polymyxins tested. With no effective antibiotics available, she eventually went into septic shock and died.

    Consider this latest case yet another warning to society. Scientists and public health officials have been trying to get the attention of policy makers, investors, pharmaceutical companies and the public. Many public health officials, including CDC Director Tom Frieden, have called CRE the "phantom menace." Our RHEA computational modeling work published in the American Journal of Epidemiology has shown how CRE will continue to spread more and more throughout hospitals and nursing homes, unless something changes.

    Once again, we are losing the war against bacteria. New antibiotic development is just not keeping pace with the emergence of new antibiotic-resistant bacterial strains. As I mentioned previously when a colistin-resistant bacterial strain appeared in Pennsylvania last year, a Pew Charitable Trust report found that too few antibiotics are under development, and a majority of antibiotics are being developed by small companies, not big pharmaceutical companies. Many big pharmaceutical companies are just not stepping up to the challenge. Many doctors, dentists, farmers and animal caretakers continue to overuse antibiotics, leading to more and more antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Infections are very, very, very common. You will in all likelihood get an infection that requires antibiotics at some point in your life. What if the next time you get an infection, nothing works against it...and thus you're out of luck?

    Will the efforts of Robert Kennedy Jr. consume time, effort, and taxpayer money that could have been directed to developing more antibiotics and controlling the spread of antibiotic-resistant bacteria?

    Why isn't there more urgency and action? Where was the mention about the lack of antibiotic development during the Presidential election? Where are the tweets? We hear about the possibility of a vaccine and autism panel led by Robert Kennedy, Jr., who as Seth Mnookin describes in Scientific American, has promoted anti-vaccine propaganda for more than a decade, when there is no scientific evidence linking vaccines to autism. Yet, there's no talk among the incoming administration about forming a similar panel to address antibiotic-resistant bacteria and the lack of antibiotic development. Will a vaccine and autism panel waste taxpayers' money and time while antibiotic-resistant bacteria continue to spread and gain strength?

    Taking on vaccines in an unscientific manner when antibiotic-resistant bacteria is spreading would be like fighting against your coaching staff and cheerleaders when you really should be worrying about your opponent on the football field. Remember the first three Star Wars prequels, Episodes I though III (I know, you may not want to remember them), which started with the Phantom Menace, when everyone fought the wrong opponents while the Emperor and the Dark Side quietly took control? Well, folks, that's what may be happening now.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    The world needs lower antibiotics treatment going on, not mass treatment of everyone carrying certain bacteria. That's what causes resistance.

    CRE (the bacteria thought to be responsible for this woman's death) is already in Ireland. CRE,VRE all are already here waiting to infect the vulnerable.

    It's simply a combination of over use and natural evolution of bacteria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Up to each of us to stop using abs for so many lesser infections. And to drs to stop prescriibing so many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    One 70 year old woman died, how was she the only person to become infected with it? Is it a case that a 20 year old woman wouldn't have died?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    ScumLord wrote: »
    One 70 year old woman died, how was she the only person to become infected with it? Is it a case that a 20 year old woman wouldn't have died?

    Older people are more susceptible to infection (usually) and infections are often worse due to their failing immune system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Forbes getting in the Star Wars references.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Time to crack open each others skulls and feast on the goo inside Ken...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Up to each of us to stop using abs for so many lesser infections. And to drs to stop prescriibing so many.

    It's not even just over use it's incorrect use. Currently I'm on antibiotics for a very bad chest infection. Antibiotics are a suitable treatment and I don't take them often. I will (hopefully) start feeling good again soon and I'd be tempted to stop taking them because antibiotics generally make me feel sick by themselves anyway but doing this would be contributing to antibiotic resistance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    ScumLord wrote: »
    One 70 year old woman died, how was she the only person to become infected with it? Is it a case that a 20 year old woman wouldn't have died?

    If a more aggressive bacteria evolved then yes. It has plenty of space to evolve now seeing as there's no way to kill it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Its time to accept we lost this fight years ago, all the talk of stopping using antibitotics for needless things is far too late, we need to invest in whatever the next antibiotics is going to be and do it fast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Its time to accept we lost this fight years ago, all the talk of stopping using antibitotics for needless things is far too late, we need to invest in whatever the next antibiotics is going to be and do it fast

    It's not profitable to research antibiotics. It would need government funding.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,112 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Is 'everyone' now immune to AB or will they still work on those who barely used them?

    *Thinly veiled 'will I survive?' post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    It's not profitable to research antibiotics. It would need government funding.

    Ohh I know so lets get onto whatever the next antibiotics type cure is, we should still be allocating government funding to antibiotics to tide us over but we need medical advancements in a new direction too as antibiotics is ultimately a dead end no matter how much money you throw at it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Is 'everyone' now immune to AB or will they still work on those who barely used them?

    *Thinly veiled 'will I survive?' post.

    Its not that your immune its that we've all used them so much so that the diseases are immune to the antibiotics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,112 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ray Darcy gonna be discussing this shortly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    PucaMama wrote: »
    Older people are more susceptible to infection (usually) and infections are often worse due to their failing immune system
    A 70 year old dying is bad and all but it's not unexpected. Once you get to that age it's only a matter of time before something gets you.

    I'd be more alarmed if they were saying a 20 year old died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    It's not profitable to research antibiotics. It would need government funding.

    This will be our downfall. It's not "on trend" to push the government here to research antibiotics. Or anything other than the modern snake oil that is cannabis oil. It's claimed to cure everything from cancer to seizures!

    Also people are madly against vaccines. Think of how many are getting antibiotics wrongly for infections because they didn't get the flu vaccine. I saw the comments on Facebook every time the HSE advertised it. It's like conspiracy theories have become hugely contagious diseases by themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,112 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Its not that your immune its that we've all used them so much so that the diseases are immune to the antibiotics

    BUT BUT, I would have used them maybe twice/three times in my life. Mid fifties. Why ME???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Is 'everyone' now immune to AB or will they still work on those who barely used them?

    *Thinly veiled 'will I survive?' post.

    We aren't immune the bacteria are. So no we are all dead should a deadly enough bacteria evolve


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    It's not profitable to research antibiotics. It would need government funding.

    I'd heard this. There is no money in antibiotics, so the pharma industry aren't producing new ones. So we may find the cure to cancer, but we will all die from the flu instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    PucaMama wrote: »
    This will be our downfall. It's not "on trend" to push the government here to research antibiotics. Or anything other than the modern snake oil that is cannabis oil. It's claimed to cure everything from cancer to seizures!
    By who?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I'd heard this. There is no money in antibiotics, so the pharma industry aren't producing new ones. So we may find the cure to cancer, but we will all die from the flu instead.

    Yes Fred. A friend of mine was working on an antibiotics research project for Pfizer and all of a sudden she had her funding and project cut. She wasn't far off finding something new either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    ScumLord wrote: »
    A 70 year old dying is bad and all but it's not unexpected. Once you get to that age it's only a matter of time before something gets you.

    I'd be more alarmed if they were saying a 20 year old died.

    You should be alarmed. A bacterium that can kill humans has no known treatment. It's not good policy to get alarmed when it's too late to do anything.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is it not a good thing if more older people die of diseases? Not for them, obviously, but for the environment and the economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,131 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I'd heard this. There is no money in antibiotics, so the pharma industry aren't producing new ones. So we may find the cure to cancer, but we will all die from the flu instead.

    Well antibiotics wouldn't be any help against the flu anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Is it not a good thing if more older people die of diseases? Not for them, obviously, but for the environment and the economy.

    That's the thing, it won't just be old people. Bacteria like Mycobacterium tuberculosis are becoming resistant too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    they should stop throwing them around like sweets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    ScumLord wrote: »
    By who?

    what do you mean by who? Do you need a list of names? It's well known people believe that crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Is it not a good thing if more older people die of diseases? Not for them, obviously, but for the environment and the economy.

    It's not just the old that are in danger it's those of us with underlying health issues or the very young too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Yes Fred. A friend of mine was working on an antibiotics research project for Pfizer and all of a sudden she had her funding and project cut. She wasn't far off finding something new either.

    The likes of Pfizer and the rest of them will be cutting their funding when they're slowly expiring of Staphylococcus' T-1000 descendant and shuffling around with the rest of us, like the Wretched waiting for Joe Moore to turn on the water. Ah well, another Golden Arrow destroyed by the cream of "society". :pac::pac::pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    We're very close to a point where drug resistant bacteria will impact on everything from routine surgical procedures to how we manage cancer care. The administration of antibiotics to healthy farm animals to prevent infection or as a way of boosting weight gain poses a huge risk to human health.


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