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Russian E-Mail hacking allegations.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    i can't imagine the laughing on the face of the Russian security services...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭pfurey101


    I think this is typical of today's "news" services.

    You can either:

    (a) pick which side of the reported story that suits your agenda / which ever sets of facts that you "know" to be true

    or

    (b) do not believe any of them.

    It's sad and it's getting worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    From the funny pictures topic:

    here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭juno10353


    Russia, USA, China, Korea, UK, Germany are all spying on each other in one form or another. Hackers are employed by all agencies, fact of life. The fact that people within the Democratic Party had their emails etc exposed, showing their disregard for the American electorate, is what helped Trump. If the Democratic Party, and many of the Republican Party, had been more in touch with the electorate then the hacking would have had no influence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭juno10353


    It is the content of the the hacked emails that influenced the election, not who did the hacking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Trump's incoming chief of staff has said that Trump is now not denying Russian hacking involvement

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/08/donald-trump-not-denying-russia-hacking-report-reince-priebus
    Donald Trump no longer denies that Russia orchestrated a cyber-attack against Hillary Clinton’s campaign and her party, according to his top advisers, who also blamed Democrats for the breach and falsely characterized the testimony of an intelligence chief to Congress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    So the Russians have Trump in the hot seat...with the knowledge that they have material of him in a compromising position?? which in the long term will work in their favour??

    is that the gist of it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    fryup wrote: »
    So the Russians have Trump in the hot seat...with the knowledge that they have material of him in a compromising position??

    That's unsubstantiated so far.
    which in the long term will work in their favour??

    Very much so. Russia has been sidelined, sanctioned and condemned internationally for several years now (Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, high profile murders, etc), Putin wants to reverse that, boost Russia internationally - which involves supporting those individuals/organisations that favor the Kremlin, whilst undermining those that don't (by almost any means)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    This sht was going on during the 80's oh the Russians are the boogyman ohhh the Russians are going to do this that and the other.
    The Russians are off the coast in big bad submarine's.
    Ohhh the Russians are spying on all of us oh the Russians are bad.

    It's all bullsht.

    The Russians are not trying to influence the whole world with their version of democracy or trying to police the world.

    I'd say the majority of people giving out about the Russians are under 28, it took be long enough for the Russians and the Americans to build up a trust amongst each other.
    Now people are trying to Stoke the flame's again.

    I notice a lot of contradiction in people giving out about Russia,but totally dismiss what other powerful countries have done in the past.

    Russia never interfered when the west invaded Iraq under false pretenses.
    They weren't jumping up and down pulling their hair out.

    Russia are a very clever powerful nation.

    Are some people blind to the fact that our very own emails phone calls etc have been monitored for decades not by the Russians now.

    Just don't poke the bear.

    The bogyman lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    This sht was going on during the 80's oh the Russians are the boogyman ohhh the Russians are going to do this that and the other.
    The Russians are off the coast in big bad submarine's.
    Ohhh the Russians are spying on all of us oh the Russians are bad.

    The captain of one of those submarines took the decision to launch nuclear torpedoes at US destroyers, however one of the officers prevented the launch - probably preventing all out nuclear war

    Just one of several other incidents that brought the world to the brink. For both sides the other was the bogeyman and with good reason.
    Russia are a very clever powerful nation.

    Indeed, but also becoming increasingly nationalistic and sliding backward in many respects

    Not helped by the recent annexation of territory, flaunting international rules and agreements, sheltering wanted foreign leaders, high-level corruption involving inner circles, intimidation and murder of opposition politicians, violence towards a press that is increasing falling under state control, doping scandals, alleged hacking, support of Assad, obstructing aid convoys, engaging in a protracted information war, alleged interference in foreign elections, etc

    You know, the kind of stuff people rail the US for during the Cold War


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