Recruitment for British army soars in Republic of Ireland

FrancieBrady · 05-01-2017 08:14PM

Didas wrote: »

Could describe a reasonably likely scenario which causes you to believe this a realistic possibility?

There are plenty of our unionist brethren here who warn of loyalist violence if a united Ireland comes too close.
If the GFA fails and there is a return to conflict.
Conflict ensuing from establishing a Brexit hard border.
there are a number of scenarios which could see them redeployed.

eeguy · 05-01-2017 08:15PM

maryishere wrote: »

A bit Irish mentioning Hitler and the Nazis when it was the British ( inc 100, 000 Irishmen who joined their forces then ) who stood alone against the Nazis in 1940.

It makes some people feel more Irish when they assume the grievances of their ancestors, cover themselves in IRA and tricolour tattoos, shout "Up the Ra" and "Tiocfaidh ar La" and sing the rebel songs of old.

Personally, I think holding a grudge is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

Cool_CM · 05-01-2017 08:17PM

dfeo wrote: »

British Army having a recruitment drive in Ireland is like Hitler having a recruitment drive in Poland for the Nazi Youth.

There's actually quite a few Neo-Nazi groups in Poland. And further east for that matter.

Falthyron · 05-01-2017 08:18PM

maryishere wrote: »

A bit Irish mentioning Hitler and the Nazis when it was the British ( inc 100, 000 Irishmen who joined their forces then ) who stood alone against the Nazis in 1940.

Don't say that! You will confuse them! Hardcore anti-British people only understand a one-track narrative. The idea that there could be other histories about their beloved Eire only causes much consternation. Keep it simple! :P

:rolleyes:

Falthyron · 05-01-2017 08:19PM

eeguy wrote: »

Personally, I think holding a grudge is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

Ha! I like that one.

Falthyron · 05-01-2017 08:21PM

eeguy wrote: »

It makes some people feel more Irish when they assume the grievances of their ancestors, cover themselves in IRA and tricolour tattoos, shout "Up the Ra" and "Tiocfaidh ar La" and sing the rebel songs of old.

You forgot to mention the Liverpool/Man United jersey for all to see. We won't mention the sovereign rings though. Try explaining that to the 'Tiocfaidh ar La' crowd and it will be the largest mass suicide event in the history of the state.

Didas · 05-01-2017 08:30PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There are plenty of our unionist brethren here who warn of loyalist violence if a united Ireland comes too close.
If the GFA fails and there is a return to conflict.
Conflict ensuing from establishing a Brexit hard border.
there are a number of scenarios which could see them redeployed.

Well you have only named two.
Even during the height of the Troubles, with rampant sectarianism particularly on the loyalist side, the UVF were a farce. At what point do you think a loyalist paramilitary campaign as a result of an approaching UI, not likely for many years, at a time when Northern society has evolved greatly from it's poisonous past, would develop from the BA's suppression of anti-democratic loyalist militants, to the BA shooting Irish children in the streets?

How do you for see a hard border causing a return of violence so bad that the BA are shooting people dead in the street?

FrancieBrady · 05-01-2017 08:32PM

Falthyron wrote: »

You forgot to mention the Liverpool/Man United jersey for all to see. We won't mention the sovereign rings though. Try explaining that to the 'Tiocfaidh ar La' crowd and it will be the largest mass suicide event in the history of the state.

Anyone would think the British Army and it's supporters were not riddled with gung ho jingoistic faith in their imperialistic supremacy.

Witness the poppy hissy fits anyone?

Falthyron · 05-01-2017 08:32PM

Didas wrote: »

Even during the height of the Troubles, with rampant sectarianism particularly on the loyalist side, the UVF were a farce. At what point do you think a loyalist paramilitary campaign as a result of an approaching UI, not likely for many years, at a time when Northern society has evolved greatly from it's poisonous past, would go from the BA's supression of anti-democratic militants to the BA shootng Irish children in the streets?

Oh, you are being serious? You are expecting a coherant and logical answer? Sorry, in this post-truth era I fully expected him to spout nonsense and then move on to the next 'point' that is equally outrageous as it is likely. :pac:

eeguy · 05-01-2017 08:35PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Anyone would think the British Army and it's supporters were not riddled with gung ho jingoistic faith in their imperialistic supremacy.

Witness the poppy hissy fits anyone?

I have no doubt they are, but you'd wonder if they'd have such abhorrence to an Irish lad joining the army as some of the lads here.

Fratton Fred · 05-01-2017 08:36PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Anyone would think the British Army and it's supporters were not riddled with gung ho jingoistic faith in their imperialistic supremacy.

Witness the poppy hissy fits anyone?

Three in one post.

Bravo sir, bravo.

Falthyron · 05-01-2017 08:37PM

eeguy wrote: »

I have no doubt they are, but you'd wonder if they'd have such abhorrence to an Irish lad joining the army as some of the lads here.

Good bridge-builders, the British. Too bad they didn't impart that on us before they left...

cameramonkey · 05-01-2017 08:38PM

maryishere wrote: »

A bit Irish mentioning Hitler and the Nazis when it was the British ( inc 100, 000 Irishmen who joined their forces then ) who stood alone against the Nazis in 1940.

What do you mean"A bit Irish"?

A Little Pony · 05-01-2017 08:58PM

end of the road wrote: »

i have no time what soever for any irish person who joins the BA. they should give up their citizenship while they are at it.

So say an Irish guy, pretty young, has a child and thus has a family to feed and cloth should not join the British Army to try and achieve that? That is odd.

To Francie, to say British soldiers could kill children in Northern Ireland now is stretching it beyond belief. Any time I see any British soldiers is when they are recruiting and then it is rare. It is just a job for many Irish people, to put food on the table.

LordSutch · 05-01-2017 09:01PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

What do you mean"A bit Irish"?

Its a commonly used self deprecating phrase used in Ireland.

maryishere is right regarding the retarded post that is 207.

end of the road · 05-01-2017 09:02PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

So say an Irish guy, pretty young, has a child and thus has a family to feed and cloth should not join the British Army to try and achieve that? That is odd.

no . it's a low rent, and frankly scummy thing to do in my view. if he is really irish he won't join. if he joins then he should stay in britain and never return.

A Little Pony wrote: »

To Francie, to say British soldiers could kill children in Northern Ireland now is stretching it beyond belief. Any time I see any British soldiers is when they are recruiting and then it is rare. It is just a job for many Irish people, to put food on the table.

no it's a conviction. a conviction to go against their people. they are against their country.

Professor Moriarty · 05-01-2017 09:04PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Its a commonly used self deprecating phrase used in Ireland.

I never hear it my part of Ireland. Nor heard it in other parts I've been in. Heard it quite a bit on British TV especially in the eighties where its meaning was racist and derogatory.

A Little Pony · 05-01-2017 09:05PM

end of the road wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

So say an Irish guy, pretty young, has a child and thus has a family to feed and cloth should not join the British Army to try and achieve that? That is odd.

no . it's a low rent, and frankly scummy thing to do in my view. if he is really irish he won't join. if he joins then he should stay in britain and never return.

A Little Pony wrote: »

To Francie, to say British soldiers could kill children in Northern Ireland now is stretching it beyond belief. Any time I see any British soldiers is when they are recruiting and then it is rare. It is just a job for many Irish people, to put food on the table.

no it's a conviction. a conviction to go against their people. they are against their country.

So they should put their country before feeding and making money to put towards a child's future education? Why is it a big deal nowadays? The Queen is on great terms with the Irish government, is that not a good thing?

Falthyron · 05-01-2017 09:05PM

end of the road wrote: »

no . it's a low rent, and frankly scummy thing to do in my view. if he is really irish he won't join. if he joins then he should stay in britain and never return.

no it's a conviction. a conviction to go against their people. they are against their country.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You're fúcking deluded, mate.

Added the 'mate', just for you.

FrancieBrady · 05-01-2017 09:08PM

Didas wrote: »

Well you have only named two.
Even during the height of the Troubles, with rampant sectarianism particularly on the loyalist side, the UVF were a farce. At what point do you think a loyalist paramilitary campaign as a result of an approaching UI, not likely for many years, at a time when Northern society has evolved greatly from it's poisonous past, would develop from the BA's suppression of anti-democratic loyalist militants, to the BA shooting Irish children in the streets?

How do you for see a hard border causing a return of violence so bad that the BA are shooting people dead in the street?

Because I lived through the most recent conflict? Because in my very vivid living memory I saw them shoot children and civilians in the street? That they may very well be involved in the bombing of my capital and local town that resulted in the deaths of people I know?
I understand how society can spiral out of control if you have governments taking sides?
That, having lived through it spiraling out of control before that I have no problem seeing it happen again?

Didas · 05-01-2017 09:12PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Because I lived through the most recent conflict? Because in my very vivid living memory I saw them shoot children and civilians in the street? That they may very well be involved in the bombing of my capital and local town that resulted in the deaths of people I know?
I understand how society can spiral out of control if you have governments taking sides?
That, having lived through it spiraling out of control before that I have no problem seeing it happen again?

That is an extremely broad statement that does not describe how such a scenario could occur. You are projecting a specific historical situation onto the modern world, where it is simply not applicable.

end of the road · 05-01-2017 09:14PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

So they should put their country before feeding and making money to put towards a child's future education? Why is it a big deal nowadays? The Queen is on great terms with the Irish government, is that not a good thing?

no they should join the irish army. if not find some other job with actual prospects and which is of some worth. it's a big deal because they are joining a force which brings and has brought terror on a huge scale all over the world and are turncoats on their country in my view.

LordSutch · 05-01-2017 09:14PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I never hear it my part of Ireland. Nor heard it in other parts I've been in. Heard it quite a bit on British TV especially in the eighties where its meaning was racist and derogatory.

You obviously haven't been in the right parts then. I hear it used quite frequently in my part of Ireland.

05-01-2017 09:15PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Its a commonly used self deprecating phrase used in Ireland.

No, it's not. The only people I've ever heard say "it's a bit Irish" are people who share your decidedly British jingoistic views on all things Irish. It's just another variant of your endearing "thick Paddy" stuff.

FrancieBrady · 05-01-2017 09:15PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

So say an Irish guy, pretty young, has a child and thus has a family to feed and cloth should not join the British Army to try and achieve that? That is odd.

To Francie, to say British soldiers could kill children in Northern Ireland now is stretching it beyond belief. Any time I see any British soldiers is when they are recruiting and then it is rare. It is just a job for many Irish people, to put food on the table.

Well they continued killing civilians and children elsewhere in the world in pursuit of their aims, and while riding shotgun for others. Why would they not return to Ireland to do it again?
Have they had some conversion I haven't been told about?

You are the very poster who predicts savage unionist violence if there are any moves towards a UI. Who do you think will put that down? The legion of Mary?

Professor Moriarty · 05-01-2017 09:17PM

LordSutch wrote: »

You obviously haven't been in the right parts then. I hear it used quite frequently in my part of Ireland.

You live in a racist part of Ireland then. Try not to be influenced by such casual racism.

FrancieBrady · 05-01-2017 09:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, it's not. The only people I've ever heard say "it's a bit Irish" are people who share your decidedly British jingoistic views on all things Irish. It's just another variant of your endearing "thick Paddy" stuff.

A spake that typically comes from a hat doffer. 'Yes m'lud'

A Little Pony · 05-01-2017 09:19PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

So say an Irish guy, pretty young, has a child and thus has a family to feed and cloth should not join the British Army to try and achieve that? That is odd.

To Francie, to say British soldiers could kill children in Northern Ireland now is stretching it beyond belief. Any time I see any British soldiers is when they are recruiting and then it is rare. It is just a job for many Irish people, to put food on the table.

Well they continued killing civilians and children elsewhere in the world in pursuit of their aims, and while riding shotgun for others. Why would they not return to Ireland to do it again?
Have they had some conversion I haven't been told about?

You are the very poster who predicts savage unionist violence if there are any moves towards a UI. Who do you think will put that down? The legion of Mary?

The current situation is best for all concerned, the British Army is NOT going to come back to Ulster and murder anyone. You sound paranoid about this. The Irish-British relationship is great at the moment.

Del.Monte · 05-01-2017 09:19PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I never hear it my part of Ireland. Nor heard it in other parts I've been in. Heard it quite a bit on British TV especially in the eighties where its meaning was racist and derogatory.

You need to get out more.

LordSutch · 05-01-2017 09:21PM

... to other parts of Ireland

Recruitment for British army soars in Republic of Ireland

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