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Storage of cattle manure

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Bear in mind that you should be able to get a grant for a dung stead under TAMS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭Diarmuid B


    Bear in mind that you should be able to get a grant for a dung stead under TAMS.

    Oh that's brilliant, I'll have a look into that with our planner. Any idea how much of a grant you get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭alps


    Bear in mind that you should be able to get a grant for a dung stead under TAMS.

    Do you need to get planning permission for a dung stead, if you are applying for a grant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Is waste silage classed as manure ?
    Am feeding 9 bullocks round bales in a yard with the gate open to a half acre and they can go from there to rough square of ground which has an old house on it. They also have access to a house on the yard which g throw a bit of straw on.Slurry and soiled bedding is shoved into open pit. Every third bale or so I load up the waste from the ring feeder and tip it in the rough paddock.
    Am I ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭zetor 4911


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Is waste silage classed as manure ?
    Am feeding 9 bullocks round bales in a yard with the gate open to a half acre and they can go from there to rough square of ground which has an old house on it. They also have access to a house on the yard which g throw a bit of straw on.Slurry and soiled bedding is shoved into open pit. Every third bale or so I load up the waste from the ring feeder and tip it in the rough paddock.
    Am I ok

    I would class that as manure so should not be out on land.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Bear in mind that you should be able to get a grant for a dung stead under TAMS.

    Don't think you can and if you could you'd have to have effluent tank and shiy like that I'd say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Diarmuid B wrote: »
    Oh that's brilliant, I'll have a look into that with our planner. Any idea how much of a grant you get?

    What county are you in and when do you normally house the cattle that are in this shed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Is waste silage classed as manure ?
    Am feeding 9 bullocks round bales in a yard with the gate open to a half acre and they can go from there to rough square of ground which has an old house on it. They also have access to a house on the yard which g throw a bit of straw on.Slurry and soiled bedding is shoved into open pit. Every third bale or so I load up the waste from the ring feeder and tip it in the rough paddock.
    Am I ok
    Yeah, silage waste is classed as manure so need to be stored as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Yeah, silage waste is classed as manure so need to be stored as well.

    Lovely. Guess I'll be forking it over the wall into the open pit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    OP I would price different options. Most may be grant aided. However issue with grant aid is complete job has to be done to grant spec. You really seem to have two options. The first is to build a dung stead you may well get away with a lined lagoon for run off. But you may need to put up fencing etc. With small projects like these even though in theory the grant is 40%(or 60%for a young trained farmer) it works out much lower as you do not get economies of scale.

    I would seriously consider a slatted tank under part or all of existing shed. I presume that even though shed is only 2bay it is 20'+ deep.. While the closed period is 18 weeks everything is relative to when you house cattle. So in reality if going the dung storage route it is relative to how long you have cattle on the shed pre mid January. As long as when and if you get a visit within the closed period that an inspector sees that you have an adequate setup in place. Remember if you are stocked below 1LU/HA you can outwinter.

    I would really consider slats as the most viable option. Rushes have two issues. they are not great bedding and unless you let them rot down for 2_3 years you are spreading the seeds across your land when spreading the dung. Straw is not a cheap option across the west of Ireland. Taking one year with another it will average 20_30euro/bale in small quantities. If the floor of your shed is sloped to the front or back I would consider a tank in front of shed with slats but the best option is a tank under the she'd itself remember you could leave a goodish sloped towards at the front of the slats to save their tegrity of your shed.. there are 2-3 mass concrete providers that make present made tank that you can slot straight into position.

    What ever you do research all your options before you opt for the project you choose

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Lovely. Guess I'll be forking it over the wall into the open pit.
    It's a PITA alright but better know now than after an inspector arrives in the yard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Lovely. Guess I'll be forking it over the wall into the open pit.

    You could chance it...its only 2 weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Lovely. Guess I'll be forking it over the wall into the open pit.

    Use it as bedding mixed with the straw.


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