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  • #1082
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    It's a calculated risk but if they ever decide to go legit in the future getting cover with no insurance conviction will be near impossible.

    not after 7 years


  • #1083
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    not after 7 years

    But will they be able to stay off the road without getting caught for 7 years.


  • #1084
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,749 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    It's a calculated risk but if they ever decide to go legit in the future getting cover with no insurance conviction will be near impossible.

    I get the feeling those people don't worry or plan that far ahead.


  • #1085
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    wait until they discover colour printers


  • #1086
    ironclaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,994 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    pippip wrote: »
    Don't assume just cause a car has L plates and a single occupant its a Learner driving though.

    Its been done to death but if you are driving with L plates up, even if you are a fully licensed driver, you should be hit with the L plate legislation fines and points. If nothing else, its a lazy tax. They are up for a reason so take them down then they arn't required. Should trucks and vans continuously display all the warning signs for hazardous materials they might be carrying?


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  • #1087
    oleras
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭oleras


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Its been done to death but if you are driving with L plates up, even if you are a fully licensed driver, you should be hit with the L plate legislation fines and points. If nothing else, its a lazy tax. They are up for a reason so take them down then they arn't required. Should trucks and vans continuously display all the warning signs for hazardous materials they might be carrying?

    Driving school cars would be exempt in this world of yours, ya ? :pac:


  • #1088
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #1089
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    But will they be able to stay off the road without getting caught for 7 years.

    who knows.
    like grand theft auto


  • #1090
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    What's stopping people putting up fake insurance disks?

    My latest policy was sent by email. I just had to print it out in colour, cut it out and stick on the car window.

    There's absolutely nothing stopping me editing that, printing it out and using it for next year while not actually renewing.

    As far as I can tell, the only way of getting caught for this is actually being in an accidentbin which case your insurance policy will be checked out. You avoid detection at checkpoints.

    Many may think this is a risk worth taking in the face of current insurance prices as when you eliminate the threat of checkpoints, your chances of getting caught in any given year are probably less than 1%, depending on how competent a driver you are and how regularly you're on the road.


  • #1091
    ongarite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,685 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Blatter wrote: »
    What's stopping people putting up fake insurance disks?

    My latest policy was sent by email. I just had to print it out in colour, cut it out and stick on the car window.

    There's absolutely nothing stopping me editing that, printing it out and using it for next year while not actually renewing.

    As far as I can tell, the only way of getting caught for this is actually being in an accidentbin which case your insurance policy will be checked out. You avoid detection at checkpoints.

    Many may think this is a risk worth taking in the face of current insurance prices as when you eliminate the threat of checkpoints, your chances of getting caught in any given year are probably less than 1%, depending on how competent a driver you are and how regularly you're on the road.

    Most cars will have an ANPR system in place that reads the car registration plate & lets them know if tax/insurance is out.
    http://garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=106&Lang=1

    They have phased out discs completely in the UK, relying solely on ANPR.
    It works very well in the UK, you wouldn't get a mile down a busy road without being pulled over.


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  • #1092
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    ongarite wrote: »
    Most cars will have an ANPR system in place that reads the car registration plate & lets them know if tax/insurance is out.
    http://garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=106&Lang=1

    They have phased out discs completely in the UK, relying solely on ANPR.
    It works very well in the UK, you wouldn't get a mile down a busy road without being pulled over.

    The poor Gardaí in this country are forced to work harder not smarter with technology a good 20 years behind any other EU state.


  • #1093
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #1094
    pippip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭pippip


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Its been done to death but if you are driving with L plates up, even if you are a fully licensed driver, you should be hit with the L plate legislation fines and points. If nothing else, its a lazy tax. They are up for a reason so take them down then they arn't required. Should trucks and vans continuously display all the warning signs for hazardous materials they might be carrying?

    I know they should, although there is no law. But the fact is they just can't. The L plates are just not designed for constant removal. I've a set up in my car for the missus learning and they are so difficult to not only place in the window but getting them to stay stuck is an absolute nightmare.

    In the last few months the gardai have taken to placing a checkpoint at the entrance to my estate and I've lost count of the amount of times I've gone through, been stopped every time to show licence. And its still easier for me to do that than take down and put up the L plates.


  • #1095
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,885 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Get a clear plastic sheet, cut it to just above the legally required size of an L plate, tape it to the windscreen on 3 sides. Print out a big red L. (Laminate it if the windscreen gets damp regularly). Slide it in when the learner is driving, slide it out when they aren't.
    It comes in really handy when a learner and a novice are sharing the same car.

    This too shall pass.



  • #1096
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    flazio wrote: »
    Get a clear plastic sheet, cut it to just above the legally required size of an L plate, tape it to the windscreen on 3 sides. Print out a big red L. (Laminate it if the windscreen gets damp regularly). Slide it in when the learner is driving, slide it out when they aren't.
    It comes in really handy when a learner and a novice are sharing the same car.

    I think it's ridiculous that there are so many cars going around with L AND N plates.

    In situations where a learner and a novice are sharing the same car, the L plate should be sufficient for both drivers.

    There's zero benefit to having both up. In fact, there are only drawbacks. The front and back windscreens are clogged up more than they need to be and other drivers don't know whether they're sharing the road with a novice or a learner. A learner driving in a car with both N and L plates muddys the waters from the perspective of other road users. And the whole point of these plates in the first place is to equip other road users with useful information in so that they can react and treat the learner or novice driver appropriately.

    Ideally, drivers would drive only with the appropriate plates displayed. Failing that, use just L plates and everybody assumes the driver of that car is a learner.


  • #1097
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Blatter wrote: »
    A learner driving in a car with both N and L plates muddys the waters from the perspective of other road users.

    why not just assume they are a learner?


  • #1098
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #1099
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    ANPR equipped cars are a rarity outside major cities

    I've talked to a few guards about this


  • #1100
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #1101
    h3000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭h3000


    Jaysus

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  • #1102
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    h3000 wrote: »
    Jaysus

    Great they have impounded, most are let go on their merry way.


  • #1103
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Great they have impounded, most are let go on their merry way.

    Seized for no NCT, Gardaí have no legal power to seize a vehicle with bald tyres or which is unsafe, which IMO is stupid, they should most definately have that power.


  • #1104
    bear1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    So if that car had no nct it would have been let off?


  • #1105
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    bear1 wrote: »
    So if that car had no nct it would have been let off?

    No if had nct it be allowed once licence and insurance are in order.

    You can drive with defective tyres but if caught fine and points but allowed to carry on.


  • #1106
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    You can drive with defective tyres but if caught fine and points but allowed to carry on.

    And they wonder why 30 odd more people are dead on the roads than last year, the mind boggles.


  • #1107
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,749 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Those tyres are well beyond defective. I'd hope a Garda could get creative around what offence they could be charged with rather than be sent on their merry way. I'd try driving with reckless endangerment to other road users.


  • #1108
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Beyond the failed NCT there should be other criteria they can seize a car...
    • A bald tyre
    • Non working headlights (both of them)
    • Non working tail lights (all of them)
    • Non working brake lights (all of them)
    • Body parts rubbing off the ground


  • #1109
    job seeker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭job seeker


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    No if had nct it be allowed once licence and insurance are in order.

    You can drive with defective tyres but if caught fine and points but allowed to carry on.

    That's no good though, don't you get the same for being abit over the speed limit? When this tyre could blow out going down the road.. Like to say that tyre is fcuked is an understatement!


  • #1110
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    job seeker wrote: »
    That's no good though, don't you get the same for being abit over the speed limit? When this tyre could blow out going down the road.. Like to say that tyre is fcuked is an understatement!

    I suppose once they don't feature the car on Twitter and it then kills 4 or 5 people down the road because the car has no traction on the road whatsoever they are grand.


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  • #1111
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    GM228 wrote: »
    Seized for no NCT, Gardaí have no legal power to seize a vehicle with bald tyres or which is unsafe, which IMO is stupid, they should most definately have that power.

    The driver was an unaccompanied learner too. Should they be let drive on?


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