2016-17 UEFA Champions League

Harry Palmr · 12-12-2016 11:50AM

Yes its the draw for the knock out stages and Arsenal winning their group means they'll be no better off than they usually are when running up 2nd.

Group winners

Arsenal can play: Benfica, Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen, Real Madrid, Porto, Sevilla.

Atletico Madrid can play: PSG, Benfica, Manchester City, Bayer Leverkusen, Porto.

Barcelona can play: PSG, Benfica, Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen, Porto.

Borussia Dortmund can play: PSG, Benfica, Manchester City, Porto, Sevilla.

Juventus can play: PSG, Benfica, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen, Real Madrid, Porto.

Leicester can play: PSG, Benfica, Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen, Real Madrid, Sevilla.

Monaco can play: Benfica, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Sevilla, Porto.

Napoli can play: PSG, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen, Real Madrid, Porto, Sevilla.

Runners up

Bayern Munich can play: Arsenal, Napoli, Barcelona, Monaco, Leicester City, Juventus.

Bayer Leverkusen can play: Arsenal, Napoli, Barcelona, Atlético Madrid, Leicester City, Juventus.

Benfica can play: Arsenal, Barcelona, Atlético Madrid, Monaco, Borussia Dortmund, Leicester City, Juventus.

Manchester City can play: Napoli, Atlético Madrid, Monaco, Borussia Dortmund, Juventus.

PSG can play: Napoli, Barcelona, Atlético Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Leicester City, Juventus.

Real Madrid can play: Arsenal, Napoli, Monaco, Leicester City, Juventus.

Porto can play: Arsenal, Napoli, Barcelona, Atlético Madrid, Monaco, Borussia Dortmund, Juventus.

Sevilla can play: Arsenal, Napoli, Monaco, Borussia Dortmund, Leicester City.

Johner · 12-12-2016 12:13PM

Great draw for City.

LuckyGent88 · 12-12-2016 12:13PM

Tough match for Man City. Monaco are flying in Ligue 1 scoring goals for fun.

mansize · 12-12-2016 12:14PM

Not Real!

LuckyGent88 · 12-12-2016 12:16PM

Johner · 12-12-2016 12:16PM

lol.

mansize · 12-12-2016 12:16PM

Bayern boom

GLaDOS · 12-12-2016 12:18PM

PSG v Barca should be good

LuckyGent88 · 12-12-2016 12:18PM

Psg v barca once again

Harry Palmr · 12-12-2016 12:21PM

Sevilla v Leicester

PSG v Barcelona

Bayer Leverkusen v Atletico Madrid

Porto v Juventus

Bayern Munich v Arsenal

Benfica v Borussia Dortmund

Real Madrid v Napoli

Manchester City v Monaco

Great bunch of ties I have to say. They really should get rid of the group stage! :pac:

Johner · 12-12-2016 12:24PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Sevilla v Leicester

PSG v Barcelona

Bayer Leverkusen v Atletico Madrid

Porto v Juventus

Bayern Munich v Arsenal

Benfica v Borussia Dortmund

Real Madrid v Napoli

Manchester City v Monaco

Great bunch of ties I have to say. They really should get rid of the group stage! :pac:

Sevilla
Barca
Atletico
Juventus
Bayern
Dortmund
Real
Manchester City

Could be a cracking quarter final lineup.

GLaDOS · 12-12-2016 12:25PM

Can see Monaco causing City problems, especially if they don't sort their defence out.

mansize · 12-12-2016 12:27PM

Ive every confidence Arsenal can beat Bayern

GavRedKing · 12-12-2016 12:27PM

I reckon all the English sides will be beaten.

City have the "easier" draw but Monaco rright now are in fine form and if they played this week would probably put them out.

Unfortunately they have to wait a few weeks before they play them but I still fancy Monaco to do a job on City.

Andersonisgod · 12-12-2016 12:28PM

Could well end up with 4 Spanish teaks in the quarter finals, top league. It could also be that there's no English sides in the last 8. While Real Madrid didn't draw Leicester, Napoli was probably the next best option. PSG for Barça again!?!?

inforfun · 12-12-2016 12:30PM

****.... wanted to take a punt on Sevilla. Odds gone down now i suppose.
Sampaoli won the copa sudamericana with U de Chile against Argentinians and Brazilians so why not win the CL with a proven cup fighter as Sevilla is.
They seem to start to click, even starting to win away games.

Dots1982 · 12-12-2016 12:35PM

When did Rudi Gullit become Ruud Gullit?

inforfun · 12-12-2016 12:42PM

After he was Ruud Dil

Turtwig · 12-12-2016 12:43PM

Sevilla are great to watch at the moment. They'll actually suit Leicester a little though.Hopefully though they'll finally get the respect they deserve from English pundits. The attitude towards them in last season's Europa league final was a joke!

Thanks to their Spanish comprades Barcelona had significantly greater chances of getting either Bayern or PSG than anyone else.

Apart from Real and Dortmund the rest of ties aren't near as clear cut.

KaiserGunner · 12-12-2016 12:54PM

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Could well end up with 4 Spanish teaks in the quarter finals, top league. It could also be that there's no English sides in the last 8. While Real Madrid didn't draw Leicester, Napoli was probably the next best option. PSG for Barça again!?!?

Well seeing how teams from the same country can't play each other, there could well end up being 3 English teams in the quarter finals, top league. Could also be that there's no Spanish sides in the last 8.

citytillidie · 12-12-2016 12:56PM

Round of 16 Draw
Manchester City (ENG) V Monaco (FRA)
Real Madrid (ESP) V Napoli (ITA)
SL Benfica (POR) V Borussia Dortmund (GER)
FC Bayern München (GER) V Arsenal (ENG)
Porto (POR) V Juventus (ITA)
Bayer Leverkusen (GER) V Atlético Madrid (ESP)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) V FC Barcelona (ESP)
Sevilla (ESP)V Leicester City (ENG)

Turtwig · 12-12-2016 12:59PM

On the bright side for Arsenal their match may actually be televised live on free to air in Ireland.

SlickRic · 12-12-2016 01:25PM

Arsenal will beat Bayern IMO.

inforfun · 12-12-2016 01:28PM

2 months and a transfer window to go.
Hard to predict anything the English teams should not fear going all out this round.
UEFA got their back by giving the "big 4" 4 guaranteed places

The Golden Miller · 12-12-2016 01:48PM

It will be between Juventus, Monaco and Atletico imo, with Juventus winning outright. Napoli, Barca, Bayern, Man City, PSG and Dortmund will all be done by a good defensive counter attacking team. Arsenal, Porto, Benfica, Sevilla, Leicester and Bayer aren't good enough. Madrid may cause Juve, Atletico and Monaco trouble in a one legged final as they play in a more direct and pragmatic fashion than your Barca's or Bayern's but would also be undone over 2 legs imo and Juve seem to hold the indian sign over them

Dirty Dingus McGee · 12-12-2016 02:04PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

It will be between Juventus, Monaco and Atletico imo, with Juventus winning outright. Napoli, Barca, Bayern, Man City, PSG and Dortmund will all be done by a good defensive counter attacking team. Arsenal, Porto, Benfica, Sevilla, Leicester and Bayer aren't good enough. Madrid may cause Juve, Atletico and Monaco trouble in a one legged final as they play in a more direct and pragmatic fashion than your Barca's or Bayern's but would also be undone over 2 legs imo and Juve seem to hold the indian sign over them

Juve have only beaten Real Madrid once out of 4 meetings this decade in the champions league.

I think you're overrating Monaco they're a good team with a top quality coach but they shouldn't be put up with the favourites for the competition until they actually prove themselves in the knockout stages or beat some genuine high quality opposition.

Flint Fredstone · 12-12-2016 02:08PM

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Arsenal look like topping their group, Bayern are finishing second. Just saying...

Ahem...

Skylinehead · 12-12-2016 02:10PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

It will be between Juventus, Monaco and Atletico imo, with Juventus winning outright. Napoli, Barca, Bayern, Man City, PSG and Dortmund will all be done by a good defensive counter attacking team. Arsenal, Porto, Benfica, Sevilla, Leicester and Bayer aren't good enough. Madrid may cause Juve, Atletico and Monaco trouble in a one legged final as they play in a more direct and pragmatic fashion than your Barca's or Bayern's but would also be undone over 2 legs imo and Juve seem to hold the indian sign over them

Monaco have been very impressive this season but put them up against Barcelona and I know where my moneys going. As for Bayern, they've not been fantastic this season but if Ancelotti knows anything, it's European knockout competition. You're completely overlooking some pretty damn good teams for fairly spurious reasons IMO

The Golden Miller · 12-12-2016 02:12PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Juve have only beaten Real Madrid once out of 4 meetings this decade in the champions league.

When is the last time Madrid came out on top against Juve when it's really mattered? 98 was it? They've played quite a bit since then

The Golden Miller · 12-12-2016 02:19PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Monaco have been very impressive this season but put them up against Barcelona and I know where my moneys going. As for Bayern, they've not been fantastic this season but if Ancelotti knows anything, it's European knockout competition. You're completely overlooking some pretty damn good teams for fairly spurious reasons IMO

Barca could well win it but they really have to get the finger out. If they keep going the way they are, they'll be picked off by a good defensive unit without too much trouble. Bayern haven't a hope. Still messing about with the tiki-taka stuff left over from the Guardiola era. There's only one team who can play it and win a Champion League and it's Barca at their best, all other teams trying to emulate it will come up short against good defenses

2016-17 UEFA Champions League

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