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UFC 205: Alvarez v McGregor (Event Discussion) - FAQ's in OP

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  • #2162
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Finally catching up on the fights I fell asleep during, Nurmagomedov is scary on the ground.
    In saying that, I think he'd be wrecked by an elite striker. Far, far too easy to hit.
    The likes of Conor or someone with a similar background would murder him.


  • #2163
    finglashoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Finally catching up on the fights I fell asleep during, Nurmagomedov is scary on the ground.
    In saying that, I think he'd be wrecked by an elite striker. Far, far too easy to hit.
    The likes of Conor or someone with a similar background would murder him.

    I agree. But when he chose to go ground it was efforrtless


  • #2164
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    McGregor via Decision
    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    The scorecard has woodley by split decision written on it. Probably read that without thinking.

    That's his writing I believe.


  • #2165
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    all this talk of scorecards, have the 1st round scores from McGregor-Alves appeared anywhere? surely that many knockdowns is a 10-8?


  • #2166
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    McGregor via Decision
    Depp wrote: »
    all this talk of scorecards, have the 1st round scores from McGregor-Alves appeared anywhere? surely that many knockdowns is a 10-8?

    They might be somewhere, but it doesn't seam to be as common when it's an earlier finish. A 5th round finish and it'll appear. 2nd, is less likely.


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  • #2167
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    Mellor wrote: »
    They might be somewhere, but it doesn't seam to be as common when it's an earlier finish. A 5th round finish and it'll appear. 2nd, is less likely.

    aye not something you always see but as far as I can remember it came out for the mendez fight!


  • #2168
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    McGregor via Decision
    I can't remember the Mendes scorecard specifically. I thought it was just a given that he lost round 1.


  • #2169
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,764 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    McGregor via Decision
    Anyone else feeling slightly deflated after that mighty weekend? I just wanna see a card like that all over again but know it will be many moons away :o


  • #2170
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Alvarez via Decision
    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Finally catching up on the fights I fell asleep during, Nurmagomedov is scary on the ground.
    In saying that, I think he'd be wrecked by an elite striker. Far, far too easy to hit.
    The likes of Conor or someone with a similar background would murder him.

    Khabib murders conor if he gets him down an extremley dangerous fight for conor.


  • #2171
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Khabib murders conor if he gets him down an extremley dangerous fight for conor.

    lot of people said the same thing about eddie to be fair!


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  • #2172
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    McGregor via Decision
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Khabib murders conor if he gets him down an extremley dangerous fight for conor.

    We've heard this all before.


  • #2173
    brinty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    12gauge dave wrote:
    Khabib murders conor if he gets him down an extremley dangerous fight for conor.


    Who da funk is dat guy.......


  • #2174
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    Saipanne wrote: »
    We've heard this all before.

    ''Chad murders conor if he gets him down an extremley dangerous fight for conor.''

    ''Eddie murders conor if he gets him down an extremley dangerous fight for conor.''

    you can be as good a wrestler as you like but if you can't protect yourself from that left it makes no difference...and going on khabib's last two fights, thats going to be tough for him!


  • #2175
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Alvarez via Decision
    The love for conor is big in here:)

    Im saying i have never seen anyone man handle someone on the ground like khabib did to johnson. He is unbeaten 24-0 with 8tko 8 submissions 8 decisions he is well rounded but johnson was a big dude and he was helpless on the ground with khabib.
    Conor knows this thats why he was himming and hawing bot fighting him in post press conference, conor normally loves fighting anyone but not so sweet on fighting khabib.


  • #2176
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Alvarez via Submission
    We all pretending Michael Johnson is some grappling god that got dominated? im on the Khabib train but his win over RDA was far more impressive.


  • #2177
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    The love for conor is big in here:)

    Im saying i have never seen anyone man handle someone on the ground like khabib did to johnson. He is unbeaten 24-0 with 8tko 8 submissions 8 decisions he is well rounded but johnson was a big dude and he was helpless on the ground with khabib.
    Conor knows this thats why he was himming and hawing bot fighting him in post press conference, conor normally loves fighting anyone but not so sweet on fighting khabib.

    conor fans in an Irish mma forum who'd have guessed it?:rolleyes:

    go watch eddies fight with pettis there and get back to me...


  • #2178
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Alvarez via Decision
    All im saying is that khabib is a real bad match up for conor his intensity on the ground would be too much for conor in my opinion ending in similar fashion to johnson fight.
    I understand fully that conor has done extremly well as regards to takedown defenses against diaz and even alvarez and wont be easy to takedown.

    If it stays standing conor has advantage 65-35
    If it goes to ground khabib has advantage 80-20

    That a fair assumption?


  • #2179
    myshirt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Yeah, I agree, we heard it all before. We did.

    But in the same way that Joe Rogan describes every card as 'the most stacked', every fight is a 'dangerous fight' for Conor. Except guys... this card was actually the most stacked, and Khabib is a f#cking dangerous fight for Conor.

    Come out of the fog if you think any different.


  • #2180
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    the ''if (insert wrestler here) takes him down he'll murder him'' argument has been disproven and is quite frankly becoming tired. Khabib is a dangerous wrestler sure, but so was eddie, so was chad and what happened there? It'll be the same story all over again, Khabib rocks up with his gameplan, ''I'm going to maul my way to a win here'', then Conor finds his chin and the gameplan goes out the window. Same sh!t different day.


  • #2181
    xECompanyx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭xECompanyx


    Khabib got rocked by Johnson early on, nuff said. Too much precision and power in McGregors left, would have kebab knocked out before any takedown attempt


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  • #2182
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Alvarez via Decision
    Its a 50-50 fight both have weaknesses which the other fighter excels at and khabib unbeaten adds to the mix.

    Khabib v diaz with winner facing conor would make sense i think.


  • #2183
    bmcc10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Its a 50-50 fight both have weaknesses which the other fighter excels at and khabib unbeaten adds to the mix.

    Khabib v diaz with winner facing conor would make sense i think.

    What exactly would you point out as been Conors weakness?


  • #2184
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Alvarez via Decision
    bmcc10 wrote: »
    What exactly would you point out as been Conors weakness?

    His ground game would be the weakest part of his arsenal would be fair to say would it not??? Hes not incredibly bad at it but its not a place he ever tries to take a fight and this was highlighted when he was finished by diaz and when chad had him down he didnt look to happy.
    As i said im very impressed with his takedown defence especially against nate in second fight he knows on the ground with nate is not where he wants to be.


  • #2185
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Alvarez via Submission
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    His ground game would be the weakest part of his arsenal would be fair to say would it not??? Hes not incredibly bad at it but its not a place he ever tries to take a fight and this was highlighted when he was finished by diaz and when chad had him down he didnt look to happy.
    As i said im very impressed with his takedown defence especially against nate in second fight he knows on the ground with nate is not where he wants to be.


    Did you miss the Holloway fight?

    The Diaz loss has nothing to do with his grappling skills either and Mendes was ko'd after doing nothing from guard passed an Conor escaped a gullotine, why take a fight to the ground when he can light them up with his hands? :confused:


  • #2186
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    His ground game would be the weakest part of his arsenal would be fair to say would it not??? Hes not incredibly bad at it but its not a place he ever tries to take a fight and this was highlighted when he was finished by diaz and when chad had him down he didnt look to happy.
    As i said im very impressed with his takedown defence especially against nate in second fight he knows on the ground with nate is not where he wants to be.



  • #2187
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Alvarez via Decision
    Its getting exhausting trying to express my opinion here!ha

    Johnson is a high level wrestler and was mauled by khabib if a high level wrestler is getting mauled by khabib i dont want to see conor undeneath khabib is what im saying.

    Fair enough?

    Yes mendes alvarez all big grappler ground game men but khabib is 24-0 and mauled dos anjos mauled johnson.

    Khabib is a bad dangerous man for conor to be in there with would u agree?


  • #2188
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    McGregor via Decision
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Its getting exhausting trying to express my opinion here!ha

    Johnson is a high level wrestler and was mauled by khabib if a high level wrestler is getting mauled by khabib i dont want to see conor undeneath khabib is what im saying.

    Fair enough?

    Yes mendes alvarez all big grappler ground game men but khabib is 24-0 and mauled dos anjos mauled johnson.

    Khabib is a bad dangerous man for conor to be in there with would u agree?

    Yeah well those opinions arent welcome here! :D

    nah but seriously, you're arguing your opinion, I have different opinions and we're arguing them, thats how a discussion site works?

    no-one is saying Khabibs ground game isn't dangerous, I just think McGregors left is more of a danger.


  • #2189
    bmcc10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    Depp wrote: »
    Yeah well those opinions arent welcome here! :D

    nah but seriously, you're arguing your opinion, I have different opinions and we're arguing them, thats how a discussion site works?

    no-one is saying Khabibs ground game isn't dangerous, I just think McGregors left is more of a danger.

    Especially seeing him been caught by Horcher and Johnson who aren't on same stratosphere as Conor when it comes to striking, As Jk said earlier though it's good to always have people doubting.


  • #2190
    cloudatlas
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    McGregor via Decision
    73!!!!! 73!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • #2191
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Alvarez via Decision
    We just have to get by now untill conor returns.
    Not many big names when conor isnt around
    No gsp no spider silva no jon jones only rousey next month. Ufc very lucky to have conor around.


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