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Complete lack of pre Famine history

  • 12-10-2016 12:57AM
    #1
    BabyE
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    Trying to watch a documentary but just realized the lack lf Irish history before famine and particularly 1916. Irish history is boring after 1900, world war passed us oby and by time we won independence, the poverty isolated oppressed narrative had been indented into the pysche.


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  • #2
    The Backwards Man
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    BabyE wrote: »
    Trying to watch a documentary but just realized the lack lf Irish history before famine and particularly 1916. Irish history is boring after 1900, world war passed us oby and by time we won independence, the poverty isolated oppressed narrative had been indented into the pysche.

    Post


  • #3
    Sparks43
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    They were so hungry all the books got eaten


  • #4
    BabyE
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    when gladiators were fighting in the collosseum, what the fucj were our ancient bogbodies doing? freezing and drenched


  • #5
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    BabyE wrote: »
    when gladiators were fighting in the collosseum, what the fucj were our ancient bogbodies doing? freezing and drenched

    Down in the pub.


  • #6
    The Backwards Man
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    We were having a D I S C O, D I S C O!

    We were having a disco


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  • #7
    Crann na Beatha
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #8
    Insect Overlord
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    BabyE wrote: »
    when gladiators were fighting in the collosseum, what the fucj were our ancient bogbodies doing? freezing and drenched

    They were bored after already having finished Newgrange and all the dolmens, and were patiently waiting for the Romans to start sharing Latin so that they could create some of the most intricately designed manuscripts on the planet.


  • #9
    The Backwards Man
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    She's D, deliorious


  • #10
    corner of hells
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    She's D, deliorious

    She is I , irresistible


  • #11
    The_Valeyard
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    Well, a lot of stuff went down in 1798 and the 1640s from what I hear.


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  • #12
    The Backwards Man
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    She's S, superficial

    Yay, we're making more sense than the OP and all we're doing is having a disco


  • #13
    siblers
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    BabyE wrote: »
    Trying to watch a documentary but just realized the lack lf Irish history before famine and particularly 1916. Irish history is boring after 1900, world war passed us oby and by time we won independence, the poverty isolated oppressed narrative had been indented into the pysche.

    Plantations
    Wolfe Tonne
    Battle Of The Boyne
    Viking Raids
    Hill Of Tara and all the folklore associated with it
    Pagans/Christianity
    Cromwell
    9 Years War/Flight of the Earls
    Irish rebellion of 1641
    Battle of Carrickfergus
    Act Of Union
    Fenian Rising


  • #14
    The Backwards Man
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    siblers wrote: »
    Plantations
    Wolfe Tonne
    Battle Of The Boyne
    Viking Raids
    Hill Of Tara and all the folklore associated with it
    Pagans/Christianity
    Cromwell
    9 Years War/Flight of the Earls
    Irish rebellion of 1641
    Battle of Carrickfergus
    Act Of Union
    Fenian Rising

    She's C, complicated:)


  • #15
    corner of hells
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    She's C, complicated:)

    She's O. .. ooohh


  • #16
    NiallBoo
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    siblers wrote: »
    Wolfe Tonne

    Early adopter of the metric system, was he?


  • #17
    The Backwards Man
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    She's O. .. ooohh

    My man (or woman)!!

    You see OP, history is a funny thing, and here's the thing boys and girls, here's the thing.

    It's all history. All of it


  • #18
    Rachiee
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    The fact that we have one of the most impressive neo lithic structures in the world.

    And had the largest viking settlement outside of scandanavia (til we bulldozed over it whoopsie)
    Dont count for much


  • #19
    The Backwards Man
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    Rachiee wrote: »
    The fact that we have one of the most impressive neo lithic structures in the world.

    And had the largest viking settlement outside of scandanavia (til we bulldozed over it whoopsie)
    Dont count for much

    The way all the old megalithic sites line up is pretty impressive too. I think our predecessors would have some stories to tell.

    But, still, not as impressive as the Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep Song, alliteration at its finest!


  • #20
    The Backwards Man
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    Serious head on for a minute, do any of ye know how hard it is to line out a house just so the walls are straight? These guys were lining them out against the position of the sun on ONE day of the year.

    Not the Vengaboys, the neolithic people!


  • #21
    BabyE
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    when I say lack I mean lack of docs, not happenings. ireland was much more partnof the wider euro story before like 1800


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  • #22
    The Backwards Man
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    BabyE wrote: »
    when I say lack I mean lack of docs, not happenings. ireland was much more partnof the wider euro story before like 1800

    'Europe' is a very recent concept, there was barely a euro concept in most of our parent's times and none at all in any of our grandparent's times


  • #23
    GLaDOS
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    Strictly speaking, we have more history before the famine then after.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #24
    me_right_one
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    Any document worth keeping was kept safe in the customs house, which was burnt in the civil war.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_the_Custom_House


  • #25
    BabyE
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    'Europe' is a very recent concept, there was barely a euro concept in most of our parent's times and none at all in any of our grandparent's times

    what the fucj u on about? columbanus the famous irish monk spoke of a europe united by religion and culture. of ciurse our grandparents had no image of europe, they grew up at the height of nationalism, by the 1800s the idea of ireland as a distant isolated outpist was pushed and embraced but for our 500ad ancestors, they were hellbent on putting ireland at the forefront of european affairs


  • #26
    BabyE
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    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Strictly speaking, we have more history before the famine then after.

    irish history turns to **** after wolfe tone, I hate modern irish hi story. im far more interested in early irish raiders in britain attacking them long before they attacked us, viking dublin, trade and commerce involving irish and byzantine traders, the origins of the first settlers than some boring ****e about dev or "the brits"


  • #27
    me_right_one
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    BabyE wrote: »
    irish history turns to **** after wolfe tone, I hate modern irish history

    Why? Cos we actually beat the english and got control over 70% of our own country? Seems like the best part to me! Nice edit there by the way.


  • #28
    Riddle101
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    I actually love all Irish history, even if a lot of it is dark. But I find it a fascinating subject.

    Then again, I find all history fascinating. Just today I was reading about Attila the Hun, and last week I read about Genghis Khan. Two very interesting people.


  • #29
    BabyE
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    me_right_one wrote: »
    Why? Cos we actually beat the english and got control over 70% of our own country? Seems like the best part to me!

    I find it more interesting finding out the idea of a united ireland wad pushed by the church, I find the individual Kingdom s and their wars more fascinating. I prefer our pagan culture and history


  • #30
    me_right_one
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    BabyE wrote: »
    I find it more interesting finding out the idea of a united ireland wad pushed by the church, I find the individual Kingdom s and their wars more fascinating. I prefer our pagan culture and history

    You're not one of them, are you?

    Ireland was always united under the high king. Squabbles broke out over control, but never to the level of having two countries on the one island. And the notion of Irish unity is only a recent one since 1921. Before that, the cause was for Irish freedom. And the idea that the Church had any sort of input into defining borders is just daft.


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
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    We did 'seem' more connected to european politics pre-1798 alright I think, after the Act you don't really hear so much about irish ties to europe.. of course the emergence of america and Australia would have played a big role in that I guess, before people would have emigrated to the likes of spain, germany, france instead as soldiers


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