Tipping

JohnRock · 08-10-2016 01:08PM

Watch a video on youtube called "Why tipping is a scam" by GradeAUnderA

Can't post a link, I'm new here

suicide_circus · 08-10-2016 01:15PM

not yet wrote: »

And your point is..?

I thought my point was pretty self explanatory. It is actually possible to make a statement and not have some ulterior meaning behind it.

not yet · 08-10-2016 01:47PM

Fleawuss wrote: »

Old advice which I have found works well in reality: if you like a place, food service etc and it's in demand, tip well. They will remember you and little advantages happen.

True,

I was in a restaurant last weekend and the table next to us didn't tip on a 120 euro bill, my table tipped 20 on a 140 bill...guess who got a free sambuca.

not yet · 08-10-2016 01:49PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I thought my point was pretty self explanatory. It is actually possible to make a statement and not have some ulterior meaning behind it.

It just seemed from your post that you had a gripe with a waiter earning 200-300 a week from tips, '' on top of their wages''...just saying.

suicide_circus · 08-10-2016 02:24PM

not yet wrote: »

It just seemed from your post that you had a gripe with a waiter earning 200-300 a week from tips, '' on top of their wages''...just saying.

No gripe. Lived with few waitresses and waiters who worked in decent restaurants and they were earning good money, much of it tax free.

Jesus. · 08-10-2016 02:27PM

lertsnim wrote: »

I tip nobody.

Spreading joy throughout the World...

Senecio · 08-10-2016 02:30PM

I only tip in countries where it is expected due to minimum wage structure. I might round up a fare in a taxi but that's not tipping, just convenience.

Avatar MIA · 08-10-2016 02:32PM

not yet wrote: »

guess who got a free sambuca.

Not you anyway.

tonycascarino · 08-10-2016 02:39PM

I don't tip. Why should I? People get paid by their employers and that's enough.

not yet · 08-10-2016 02:42PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

No gripe. Lived with few waitresses and waiters who worked in decent restaurants and they were earning good money, much of it tax free.

So you think it should be taxed then..?

not yet · 08-10-2016 02:44PM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Not you anyway.

What makes you think that..

Grayson · 08-10-2016 02:52PM

JohnRock wrote: »

Watch a video on youtube called "Why tipping is a scam" by GradeAUnderA

Can't post a link, I'm new here

You need to get into a pointless argument with someone. That's 50 posts right there.

That tip's for free (sticking on topic

) .

eet fuk · 08-10-2016 03:10PM

not yet wrote: »

True,

I was in a restaurant last weekend and the table next to us didn't tip on a 120 euro bill, my table tipped 20 on a 140 bill...guess who got a free sambuca.

"Free"... you paid 20 quid for them! Although I can't tell if you were being sarcastic...

I don't tip in general.
The only time I do tip is if there is no explicit delivery charge on a takeaway. I'll give them €2 as that's just what I do.

byte · 08-10-2016 04:12PM

Waiters/waitresses will get tipped if they're good.

I generally tip the barber too. He charges €8 but I just give him a tenner and tell him to keep the change.

I'd tip workmen that might be doing stuff around the house and do a tidy job also.

NiallBoo · 08-10-2016 04:21PM

Tipping by default is weird.

I don't get why tipping waiters in restaurants is expected. Being a waiter is no harder than most other minimum/low wage jobs and it's by far the easiest job in a restaurant.

If someone really impresses you (whatever job it is) then go nuts.

Personally, I think we tip because we feel guilty about having someone do everything for us, or just because it's expected.

byte · 08-10-2016 04:25PM

NiallBoo wrote: »

Tipping by default is weird.

I don't get why tipping waiters in restaurants is expected. Being a waiter is no harder than most other minimum/low wage jobs and it's by far the easiest job in a restaurant.

If someone really impresses you (whatever job it is) then go nuts.

Personally, I think we tip because we feel guilty about having someone do everything for us, or just because it's expected.

When I used to work in a restaurant kitchen many years ago, tips were always gathered and divided out between waiting staff and kitchen staff equally.

Presumably, this is not standard tip etiquette in all restaurants.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 08-10-2016 04:41PM

A lot of restaurants put a service charge on their bill. If they do that, I don't tip.

FTA69 · 08-10-2016 05:02PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

A lot of restaurants put a service charge on their bill. If they do that, I don't tip.

A lot of places in London (and I assume Dublin is the same) are doing this and not paying the money to the staff. I always ask the staff do they get the service charge and if they don't get it in its entirity I ask for it to be removed from the bill and give them cash instead.

Absolutely disgraceful for a business to be basically stealing money from their staff and enticing extra from customers under false pretences. And often it's the big chains at it too.

Arthur.beaker · 08-10-2016 05:05PM

Grayson wrote: »

You need to get into a pointless argument with someone. That's 50 posts right there.

That tip's for free (sticking on topic ) .

Unless some over zealous mod gets involved where not wanted.

NiallBoo · 08-10-2016 05:07PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

A lot of restaurants put a service charge on their bill. If they do that, I don't tip.

I don't really get why places have a service charge - staff wages are a normal business cost and should be included fully in the price.

If you were to list VAT separately it wouldn't be allowed.

Arthur.beaker · 08-10-2016 05:19PM

NiallBoo wrote: »

I don't really get why places include a service charge - staff wages are a normal business cost and should be included fully in the price.

If you were to list VAT separately it wouldn't be allowed.

I thought it was usually for a party of 6 or above where they aim to serve each in the group at roughly the same time meaning the cooking and serving need to be coordinated for each course which takes more effort versus 3 parties of 2 etc.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 08-10-2016 05:22PM

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

I thought it was usually for a party of 6 or above where they aim to serve each in the group at roughly the same time meaning the cooking and serving need to be coordinated for each course which takes more effort versus 3 parties of 2 etc.

If they can't cater to larger parties then don't take the booking. We've paid service charges on meals when there's been only two of us. I don't care as we'd leave a tip anyway but if they're charging a service charge we won't leave one.

NiallBoo · 08-10-2016 05:23PM

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

I thought it was usually for a party of 6 or above where they aim to serve each in the group at roughly the same time meaning the cooking and serving need to be coordinated for each course which takes more effort versus 3 parties of 2 etc.

But still a standard cost.
You'll always make more on some sales than on others. Wages are a normal cost and if your prices don't reflect what you have to charge to make enough at the end of the week to pay your costs then your prices are wrong.

Avatar MIA · 08-10-2016 05:29PM

NiallBoo wrote: »

If you were to list VAT separately it wouldn't be allowed.

Why wouldn't it. VAT should be shown on the bill.

RobertKK · 08-10-2016 05:37PM

I hate the tipping culture that exists in some countries as I then wonder am I doing it right, as most people don't want to intentionally annoy someone by not following what is a culture thing.
Like who do you tip, and who don't you tip.
Like booking a tour abroad, and it says gratuities are not included with optional in brackets, which is kind of saying that a tip is expected.
It can get complicated and sometimes it would be better to be ignorant on the whole culture of tipping :pac:

NiallBoo · 08-10-2016 05:40PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Like booking a tour abroad, and it says gratuities are not included with optional in brackets

well that's good - i would feel a bit awkward getting a gift from a stranger.

13-04-2017 02:02PM

I just came back from a work lunch with two colleagues. The bill came to 66.20, we all paid our share, and put 70 euro into the packet that the bill came in. The waitress took the pack and didn't come back with the change. We would have left the change as a tip, and maybe have thrown in another two euro, but as we got ourselves ready to leave, it became clear that the waitress didn't intend to provide change. I mentioned it to my colleague when the waitress said goodbye and he told me the same thing happened to him elsewhere with a larger amount of money.

Now i know this is a tiny amount of money, less than 4 euro, so obviously I'm not going to kick up a fuss, it's a very small amount of money, but as a customer I find this a bit of a peeve and would be reluctant to return there again

Is this a normal practice now? Or am I being unreasonably stingy in noticing it?

Parchment · 13-04-2017 03:42PM

I am assuming this all relates to Ireland :

I may leave a tip in a restaurant if the service is exceptional. I never tip at the hairdressers even though i know this is the place most people tip at - their prices are INSANE so i wont be tipping.

s15r330 · 13-04-2017 03:50PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I just came back from a work lunch with two colleagues. The bill came to 66.20, we all paid our share, and put 70 euro into the packet that the bill came in. The waitress took the pack and didn't come back with the change. We would have left the change as a tip, and maybe have thrown in another two euro, but as we got ourselves ready to leave, it became clear that the waitress didn't intend to provide change. I mentioned it to my colleague when the waitress said goodbye and he told me the same thing happened to him elsewhere with a larger amount of money.

Now i know this is a tiny amount of money, less than 4 euro, so obviously I'm not going to kick up a fuss, it's a very small amount of money, but as a customer I find this a bit of a peeve and would be reluctant to return there again

Is this a normal practice now? Or am I being unreasonably stingy in noticing it?

Happens in America all the time.

With your lunch situation, even if I had planned on leaving the change I would have taken it just for the fact she didn't offer it back, cheeky b1tch!

Parchment · 13-04-2017 03:55PM

s15r330 wrote: »

Happens in America all the time.

With your lunch situation, even if I had planned on leaving the change I would have taken it just for the fact she didn't offer it back, cheeky b1tch!

Well in America its actually how people make their wages up. I waitressed in America and my hourly wage was $2.15 - that was to encourage good service so people would tip more.

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