UK Votes to leave EU

Junkyard Tom · 07-10-2016 10:53PM

maryishere wrote: »

A quick google will tell you 12,790,998 British people holidayed in Spain last year.

1. What % of British Holidaymakers will the Spanish lose after a hard Brexit?

2. Where do the British go on short-haul budget holidays instead of Spain?

mansize · 07-10-2016 11:12PM

.@Theresa_May: we will never again let "left-wing human rights lawyers harangue... our armed forces" #CPC16

Cos British Armies were always known to be fair and just...

Grayson · 07-10-2016 11:15PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

1. What % of British Holidaymakers will the Spanish lose after a hard Brexit?

2. Where do the British go on short-haul budget holidays instead of Spain?

Blackpool. They're all going to go to blackpool on holidays

maryishere · 07-10-2016 11:45PM

Actually nearly all tourism related businesses, hotels and the like are booming in the UK after Brexit. More good news for the UK economy.

NIMAN · 07-10-2016 11:47PM

cml387 wrote: »

I think the idea is for Britain to start making its own cars again.
Just think of it, updated versions of the Austin Allegro, Morris Marina and Hillman Imp.

I'm in......hard to beat class that those.

Junkyard Tom · 07-10-2016 11:59PM

maryishere wrote: »

Actually nearly all tourism related businesses, hotels and the like are booming in the UK after Brexit.

Brexit hasn't happened yet so I must insist you stop pretending it has. Now, I must insist you volunteer to answer these two questions.

maryishere wrote: »

A quick google will tell you 12,790,998 British people holidayed in Spain last year.

1. What % of British Holidaymakers will the Spanish lose after a hard Brexit?

2. Where do the British go on short-haul budget holidays instead of Spain?

maryishere · 08-10-2016 12:02AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Brexit hasn't happened yet so I must insist you stop pretending it has. Now, please answer those two questions above.

The Brexit referendum, silly.
And if you want to know what the price of eggs has to do with tourism, I did not ask that question, so you can answer it yourself instead of you stalking me.

VinLieger · 08-10-2016 12:04AM

maryishere wrote: »

Actually nearly all tourism related businesses, hotels and the like are booming in the UK after Brexit. More good news for the UK economy.

The number of British holiday makers switching to blackpool instead of Spain will never make up the tourism money lost from the number that will be turned off going to England at all if they continue down the track they have started this week

maryishere · 08-10-2016 12:05AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

2. Where do the British go on short-haul budget holidays instead of Spain?

You are the first person to mention "short haul budget holidays" but if you open your eyes you will see some come to Temple Bar courtesy of Ryanair.;) Lets hope the Merkel does not impose a hard border between UK and Ireland - nobody in these islands want it - or would tolerate such interference from Brussels.

Junkyard Tom · 08-10-2016 12:06AM

maryishere wrote: »

The Brexit referendum, silly.

But you didn't say that Mary. It's not up to me to understand your own unique way of using the English language.

And if you want to know what the price of eggs has to do with tourism, I did not ask that question, so you can answer it yourself instead of you stalking me.

You made claims, I'm calling them into question. Don't make ridiculous claims based on emotion rather than reason and then you won't be cornered on it like I've done now.

Junkyard Tom · 08-10-2016 12:09AM

maryishere wrote: »

You are the first person to mention "short haul budget holidays" but if you open your eyes you will see some come to Temple Bar courtesy of Ryanair.;)

My eyes are open, my fellow Irish person, and not clouded by a hatred of the country I call home and bizarre infatuation with Britain, like yours are.

maryishere · 08-10-2016 12:10AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

You made claims, I'm calling them into question..

I never mentioned "short haul budget holidays"

maryishere · 08-10-2016 12:11AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

My eyes are open, my fellow Irish woman, and not clouded by a hatred of the country I call home and bizarre infatuation with Britain, like yours are.

I am sorry you are so full of hate. I love Ireland.

If your eyes are open why did you never notice British tourists in Ireland before, or do you still think of them as vermin?

Junkyard Tom · 08-10-2016 12:14AM

maryishere wrote: »

I am sorry you are so full of hate. I love Ireland.

I am not a man of hate. Stop projecting. You've an awful lot of hate for Ireland's independence and those of us who value it.

maryishere · 08-10-2016 12:18AM

The facts speak for themselves. You did not answer the question -if your eyes are open why did you never notice British tourists in Ireland before, or do you still think of them as vermin?

LordSutch · 08-10-2016 12:20AM

cml387 wrote: »

I think the idea is for Britain to start making its own cars again.
Just think of it, updated versions of the Austin Allegro, Morris Marina and Hillman Imp.

Actually, I always fancied an Austin Maestro.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/14/article-2324101-01B82B0F0000044D-148_634x301.jpg

kingchess · 08-10-2016 12:23AM

The Pound is weak versus the Euro so there is good value for Tourists visiting the UK,Not so good value for Uk tourists going on holidays in Europe.

Jaggo · 08-10-2016 12:29AM

maryishere wrote: »

Lets hope the Merkel does not impose a hard border between UK and Ireland - nobody in these islands want it - or would tolerate such interference from Brussels.

We perfectly well will.

Their is a fair chance the border will be established by our side. If sterling keeps up its freefall, Ireland will but in a hard border to limit the loss of VAT and excise across the border. The Government may pretend they are sorry, but no state can afford to lose that tax revenue.

And it will have being imposed by the UK, their choice to leave but more importantly their choice to close their borders to immigration.

Junkyard Tom · 08-10-2016 12:31AM

maryishere wrote: »

The facts speak for themselves.

What facts are you tangentially waffling about now?

You did not answer the question

What question?

if your eyes are open why did you never notice British tourists in Ireland before

Yes, they're our largest number of tourists as far as I know.

or do you still think of them as vermin?

I don't think of any human being as vermin never mind British people holidaying in Ireland. Please stop being overemotional and projecting your own prejudices onto me.

08-10-2016 03:54AM

So now the British government has, according to an LSE academic, stipulated it does not want any academic who has not got a British passport on the LSE team giving it advice. It doesn't matter how gifted she or he may be. We are entering a new world here, and if the European Union and its far greater resources decides to reciprocate by excluding British passport holders from all EU contracts the biggest loser here will be obvious.

UK govt only taking Brexit advice from LSE academics with British passports

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-10-2016 04:30AM

I think in the next coming couple of years this may prove to the right choice for Britain. I think the concept of the EU in general is in trouble. We see this at the moment with member states refusing to go along with Germany's dictate to take a quota of African and middle eastern migrants.

Some people say that we're not going let Germany destroy this continent for the third time in 100 years.

First Up · 08-10-2016 07:43AM

A lot of confusion in evidence here. Britain already has border controls; the only thing that will change after they leave is how they are applied.

If the UK wants to give Irish passports a free run, they can do so. If they want to make Belgians apply for visas, they can do that too. But all such arrangements will be reciprocal and when dealing with Schengen countries it will be the same deal for all.

As for goods, German cars or French wine won't be banned from the UK; they may just attract a rate of duty as part of the overall trade deal and there will be more paperwork. They won't "lose" the market.

The Northern Ireland border is the one complication in all this. And its a real corker of a complication.

suicide_circus · 08-10-2016 07:53AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think in the next coming couple of years this may prove to the right choice for Britain. I think the concept of the EU in general is in trouble. We see this at the moment with member states refusing to go along with Germany's dictate to take a quota of African and middle eastern migrants.

Some people say that we're not going let Germany destroy this continent for the third time in 100 years.

The EU project worked perfectly. Right up til the moment it hit a bump in the road (recession/migrant crisis) at which point the cracks started to appear quickly.How many Europeans feel part of a united and cohesive sociopolitical bloc to which they feel loyalty and attachment? I think the EU failed to win hearts as well as minds.

First Up · 08-10-2016 09:12AM

suicide_circus wrote:

The EU project worked perfectly. Right up til the moment it hit a bump in the road (recession/migrant crisis) at which point the cracks started to appear quickly.How many Europeans feel part of a united and cohesive sociopolitical bloc to which they feel loyalty and attachment? I think the EU failed to win hearts as well as minds.

If you think EU countries would be better able to deal with recession or a migrant crisis on their own, I suggest you think again.

maryishere · 08-10-2016 09:29AM

First Up wrote: »

If you think EU countries would be better able to deal with recession or a migrant crisis on their own,

on their own? You mean without all the money, aid, help the UK has given them / us over the decades since the early seventies? You are right, the UK has been the second biggest contributor to EC / EU funds after Germany. We have done well out of the EEC / EC / EU over the decades, what with out farmers being looked after, regional development funds, motorways and roads programmes, money for education and students, leader funds, subsidies grants and handouts. Remember the billions Albert Reynolds got from "Europe" for us? Only 3 or 4 years the UK and EC and IMF lent us money when nobody else would. If they did not, our government would not have had money to pay teachers, nurses, pensions, Gardai, unemployment etc the following month. We done well out of the UK. They were proven correct in their decesion to keep sterling / not join the euro. No doubt they will be proven correct in relation to Brexit in due course. They are doing so already - the UK economy is healthier than us or the rest of the EC and has been for some time.

kingchess wrote: »

The Pound is weak versus the Euro so there is good value for Tourists visiting the UK,Not so good value for Uk tourists going on holidays in Europe.

Which is good for the UK economy. Hotels etc are thriving again in the UK.

FrancieBrady · 08-10-2016 09:35AM

Jaggo wrote: »

We perfectly well will.

Their is a fair chance the border will be established by our side. If sterling keeps up its freefall, Ireland will but in a hard border to limit the loss of VAT and excise across the border. The Government may pretend they are sorry, but no state can afford to lose that tax revenue.

And it will have being imposed by the UK, their choice to leave but more importantly their choice to close their borders to immigration.

You can be sure that there will be plenty of hat doffers who will be more concerned about British holidaymakers than what is staring us here in the face (a reestablishment of the border) and all that entails.

maryishere · 08-10-2016 09:38AM

Jaggo wrote: »

Their is a fair chance the border will be established by our side. If sterling keeps up its freefall, Ireland will but in a hard border to limit the loss of VAT and excise across the border. The Government may pretend they are sorry, but no state can afford to lose that tax revenue.

lol. We could become like Cuba. I remember "border controls" in the eighties, when vat by our corrupt little government here ( Haughey and his Mistress ) was 35%, and vat in the UK ( where all our emigrants were fleeing to ) was only 15%.
Smuggling was rife. A hard border between north + south is not practical or sustainable in a country of 5 million odd.

On a positive note, 1,500,000 cars are year are made in the UK. It will now be cheaper to import our Nissans (from Sunderland ) and Hondas ( from Swindon ) and Land Rovers and Toyotas etc, due to exchange rates. Of course our government still charges a fortune in vrt, despite the "common market".

steddyeddy · 08-10-2016 09:45AM

maryishere wrote: »

lol. We could become like Cuba. I remember "border controls" in the eighties, when vat by our corrupt little government here ( Haughey and his Mistress ) was 35%, and vat in the UK ( where all our emigrants were fleeing to ) was only 15%.
Smuggling was rife. A hard border between north + south is not practical or sustainable in a country of 5 million odd.

On a positive note, 1,500,000 cars are year are made in the UK. It will now be cheaper to import our Nissans (from Sunderland ) and Hondas ( from Swindon ) and Land Rovers and Toyotas etc, due to exchange rates. Of course our government still charges a fortune in vrt, despite the "common market".

But importing parts for cars and airplanes will cost considerably more.

steddyeddy · 08-10-2016 09:51AM

Value of the pound dips below the Euro in some airports. On phone so can't link properly.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/pound-value-brexit-sterling-latest-euro-dollar-flash-crash-currency-exchange-airports-a7349891.html%3famp?client=ms-android-samsung

FrancieBrady · 08-10-2016 09:53AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

But importing parts for cars and airplanes will cost considerably more.

Facts don't impinge on the fantasyland Mary, Farage and Boris have constructed.
It's called post Brexit UK.

UK Votes to leave EU

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