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The 'I just ran 5km, is anything (eek!) possible now?' log

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭tailgunner


    Best of luck for Sunday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Best of luck and have fun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭FIFA2004


    Good luck on Sunday!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Have a great run!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,519 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Best of luck tomorrow Mel


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    GOOD LUCK MEL!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    The very best of luck tomorrow , Enjoy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Whoops, forgot to wish you luck! Good luck earlier today!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Lisbon race report
    21.1km, duration 2:58:39, avg pace: 8:16min/km

    Not a great day for me as you will probably have gathered looking at the above :(

    Pre race
    I slept well at the hotel, close to the start/finish line. i had packed my instant porridge to have for breakfast, however there was no kettle in the room and only a nespresso machine with machine espessro size cups. So it was off to the supermarket last night to find something i'd be able to stomach for breakfast. The mantra 'nothing new on race day' already out the window. I settled on weetabix with peanut butter on top - i'd sometimes hace a rice cake with peanut butter before a run so figured this would be a safe combination and a lot more filling than rice cakes. I had the alarm set for 6.30 which was crazy early given the race didn't start until 10.30 and the buses were leaving from directly opposite the hotel, but i didn't want to stress and wanted plenty of time for breakfast to settle as well. As it was i woke not long after 6 and enjoyed my breakfast - the combination being surprisingly good. Showered and tried to do some dynamic stretches / movements to limber up. Normally i'd foam roll as well before a long run but that wasn't possible today. I headed downstairs just after 8.30 and out into what was already warm weather. The race was starting on the Vasco da Gama bridge which meant we were all bused to the start. The queues were long for the buses but moving surprising quickly and i was in a bus (and managed to bag a seat!) for what was about a 25min bus ride to the start. The vasco da gama bridge is one long bridge and it had some spectacular views back over lisbon. When we were dropped off, it was about another 20min slow walk up to where the starting area was. Both the half and a 10k(i think, it could have been shorter) fun run were starting on the bridge, with the fun run starting beind the half. The effectively sorted us so the two two groups weren't mixed which was good. I'd say i was in place by 10am with nothing to do but wait and no idea how far forward or back i was.

    The race
    The race started on time and we started moving forward. I can't have been too far back as it only took about a minute or so to cross the start line. As we were running in the bridge and had one whole side it, there was plenty of space to run and i didn't have to weave at all. However i noticed from the start that my hip was hurting with each step i took. I tried telling myself that yes it was hurting, i knew it was most likely going to hurt and to keep going. I was also doing the same with the sun, telling myself i knew it was going to be warm/hot. The first km soon enough came up at 6:30min/km on my watch, strava says 6:19. I'm not sure what has caused the difference there as i hit start on my polar going over the start line.
    2nd km brings a downhill and i really notice it in my hip now, a shapr pain every time my foot lands on the ground. We're still making our way off the bridge so i try to tell myself it will lessen when we get to flatter ground. Km 2 in 6:18 which was a tad fast, but given the downhill ok. Km 3, more of the same, 6:19. At around the start of km 4 is the first band, appropriatley playing 'highway to hell' as i run past. The first water stop was around here as well and i grabbed a water, had a few little sips and then poured the rest over me. Already there was very shade on the course. Km 4 done in 6:46, a little slower than i would have liked, but avg pace was ok. Km 5 done in 6:23 and other than the hip pain which hadn't really gotten any better on the flat and the heat i was feeling ok and my breathing seemed under control. Km 6 passed in 6:33, km 7 in 6:45. Some point around here was the fire briadge with their hise which was very much appreciated :D. I also took more water, sipped in it and then poured it over myself again.

    Km 8 to 10 i really started to struggle, 7:01, 6:53, 7:08. My hip was really hurting and there was absolutely no shade. I told myself to make it to 10km which i did in around 1:05ish time i think. I then told myself to keep going until the turn around point, thinking it had to be just up ahead. However i couldn't keep going :( and had to stop to walk. I tried twice in the next 3km to get going but wasn't able to do more than a couple of hundred metres. After what seemed to be the longest 3km ever ( 9:58, 10:06, 10:32) i finally reached the turn around point.

    I managed to get some sort of shuffle going here for the next 2.5kms (8:08, 8:15, 9:23) but my right hip decided it wanted to be part of the party as well :(:( so with bith hios now hurting each time i put my feet on the ground i was back walking. The one good thing here was that some clouds had appeared that offered brief respite from the sun. I tried twice again between kms 16 & 20 to get running but it just wasn't going to happen - (10:52, 10:12, 10:55, 11:23). Finally the final km and a bit had finally arrived and i was determined to run them, managing to do 7:51 and crossing the line in just under 3hrs.

    A mini magumn ice-cream was waiting for me which was a nice touch, along with my medal and another goody bag which contained a bottle of water, two small cartons of milk (one plain, one chocolate and some halls throat lozenges :confused: i felt tears welling up, which was a bit stupid but managed to hold them back.

    The course
    Other than the start on the bridge which is very nice, the course is not in any way scenic. A lot of it runs alongside shipping docks/ train docks (and thats describing it as nicely as i can) and as it is essentially an out and back course this is what you see (and smell) most of the time. Other than a few inclines over bridges it is a very flat course. I counted only 4 bands, one of which we went past twice so that was dissapointing. The marathon joins the course at the 13km mark so there is plenty of people around. The marathon starts in Cascais, a beach town and runs along the coast into Lisbon. I heard one person say it was a nice course, although from what i saw of it on my two day trips to Cascais you're not exactly running directly alongside the beach. The full marathon starts at 8am and the half at 10.30. In September lisbon still averages 6 days over 30 - today i saw the temp at 24 at one point and thats the coolest it has been all week. Even next week is back up to mid/high 20s. Given the temperature (although maybe i'm just a wimp) and the lack of scenery on the half marathon course i'm surprised this race is as big as it is. There were people from all over the world doing it. Overall though, while i've enjoyed my sun holiday and exploring Lisbon & surrounds i wouldn't recommend the half to anyone.

    What's next?
    An appt with a physio! Can anyone recommend someone in Clare/limerick? The plan is to concentrate on my 5/10k times for the next while to get these under 30/60min respectively. I've signed up for the 10k mini marathon in limerick at the end of Oct and the 10k gingerbread run in Nov but at the moment i'll just wait and see how things go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    Sorry to hear it didn't go to plan. Hope you get sorted with a physio. I think it's a good idea to concentrate on the shorter stuff, you'll really notice a difference if you do another half once you have some more miles in your legs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Really sorry to hear you had a tough time of it. It's such terrible luck for that hip problem to crop up at the last minute! I suppose the silver lining is that you've a great block of training behind you that should pay dividends as you turn your attention to the shorter stuff. Glad you enjoyed the holiday at least! (Jealous)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭FIFA2004


    So sorry to hear you didn't have the day you wanted. The work you've put in has been incredible; so unfortunate to get injured so close. I'm sure the work will stand to you next time, as will toughing out a bad day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Sorry it didn't go the way you wanted it to. But, in order to have the really good days, we also have to have the bad ones. Hopefully I'll see you out on the trails soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    Highly recommend mid West physio clinic near University of Limerick. Sinead Cobb there is excellent imo. She's a runner herself.

    http://www.midwestphysio.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    Sorry it didn't go as planned for you. I was following this blog earlier this year and forgot about you for a while. However, I was often out running and would remember the blog and would mean to check it out when I'd get home but of course, I always forgot once I fell in the door ! Thanks to you I'm still running. Few times a week now, 5km most times but last 2/3 weeks I've upped it a little bit did 8km this week. Slooooow but steady. I've my first 10k planned for either next wkend or end of Oct in the Cook mini. Best of luck with the physio and hope u get sorted soon. Thank you for the updates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭gypsylee


    Sorry to hear your Lisbon experience did not go too well for you Mel. Its always disappointing to have a run like that after all the training. Just put it down to experience, get yourself a good physio and look forward. I've enjoyed following your log and hope you feel better soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    So sorry to hear about you injury Mel, you put in a great training block for this race, I'm gutted for you - all that training won't go to waste though. There's a girl called Michelle Downes in Querrin that works out of Kilkee but she does physio for the Kilmurry Ibrikane team so she might be able to take you a bit closer to home. She's young and I've heard a lot of runners that have had great success with her after failing with other physios. You should be able to reach her on 086-0632848


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Thanks everyone for the kind words of support and recommendations for a physio both here and via PM, it is much appreciated :)

    So Physio update...

    I had my appt tonight. From what I understand, it's essentially an overuse injury of the glute medius muscle. I've been having aches in this area since at least March/April but it has never interfered with running (or even really hurt while running), so I figured it was basically ok. Until last week obviously! Then the muscle basically said 'I've had enough of this' and went into complete spasm and that was the sharp stabbing sensation i was getting.

    I've had some rather painful dry needling done and while i feel sorer and walking is actually harder than before, i can already notice the difference. Walking up the stairs to the physio was painful - less than 2hrs later that same stabbing sensation is almost non-existent when climbing the stairs at home so i'm taking that as a good sign. No running for at least two weeks, until i''m pain free in everyday activities and then rehab and then building the running back up. Its unlikely i'll be able to run limerick women's mini marathon at the end of the month but the gingerbread run towards the end of Nov will be more realistic even though I won't have a lot of specific training behind me for it.

    So overall, it could have been a lot worse and I'm happy I'm finally on the right track with getting this sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Physio update #2

    Back to the Physio tonight. My hip is still hurting while climbing stairs or inclines / hills, otherwise I'd say it's pretty much back to what had become its normal achy self while walking and doing other everyday things. However that still means no running. Physio tonight did some shockwave therapy and more dry needling, which thankfully wasn't as painful as last week and I was able to walk out of the physio pretty normally at the end of the session :o Next week hopefully I'll be able to start some exercises for rehab.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Physio update #3

    Physio again tonight. Pretty much my hip is only sore now when going up/down stairs which is good news, although I gathered from the Physio that he would have expected that to be better by now as well. Had more dry needling and found a few more tight spots towards the front of the muscle - he commented that he was almost having trouble getting the needle in because the muscle was so tight. So hopefully that's the last spot now. I've been given permission to go for a run on Saturday to see what it is like :D If I'm getting the same sharp pain I was then I need to stop and will probably need to go and get some scans done to look more at the joint instead, however if the pain is gone (or back at what it always was) then happy days, I can start back again. I've also been given some exercises and stretches to do to now start strengthening the muscle. So, fingers crossed for Saturday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Bit of a mixed bag to report. Woke up at stupid o'clock fri morning and realised that my hip didn't hurt stretching or rolling over in bed anymore so took that as a good sign. Several hours later when it was actually time to be awake and out of bed, my hip no longer hurt going up and down the stairs so I was really happy about that and looking forward to todays run.

    I took my gear with me so I could go after work without the hassle of having Cooper with me. Headed off full of hope and the first km was pain free :D Not a niggle, nothing. However after that first km the pain was back :( Not as bad as Lisbon, but I'd say it got to probably 60 - 70% and did seem to get worse as I progressed. As a result I only did just under 3km. It's now sore again walking around. So not sure where that leaves me, but I need to update my physio on Monday anyway so I guess I'll know more after then. In the mean time I need to continue with my exercises and stretches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Well, it's been quite a while since I updated anything in here, however that's because it's not a 'no news is good news situation'. Spoke to the physio after my last run and he wanted me to go & have an MRI, however I wanted to wait another few weeks just to give my hip proper time to strengthen and have at least some time where it wasn't under stress. The physio was happy for me to do this. However, the weekend after I posted last I was out with Cooper and the bike, attempting some bikejoring. I had gotten off the bike and was standing next to it with Cooper when he knocked me over and I knocked the bike over, landing awkwardly on my back on the bike. Since then I have been dealing with intermittent sciatica that is worse whenever I am standing and walking so I haven't even attempted to run and honestly can't see it happening before the end of the year with the way things are at the moment :( My back is okish - it doesn't really hurt but there's enough of something there to know that it's not right as well. On the plus side, I am getting to know the physio quite well :P I suspect I may end up getting that MRI or CT scan after all but it will be of my back and not my hip. So when I do back to it I fear I'm going to be back to square one :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Sorry to read that melb take care


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    MRI on lumbar spine, pelvis & hip done on Sunday morning, just waiting for the results now. Unfortunately things are still no better :( so hoping something will show up on the scan to explain the difficulties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    That's awful Mel I really hope you can get sorted soon and back in full health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Really sorry to hear that you haven't been able to get to the root of the problem Mel, you've been so consistent and trained hard this year, I can imagine how demoralizing it is. Fingers crossed, you can get some answers and start working on recovery. It would be great to see you at the Clare run series.

    P.s. is Cooper missing running?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    +1 to the above Mel, really hope to see you back at it soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭mel.b


    So I got the MRI results today from the GP and waiting to speak to the Physio but it doesn't look like I'll be running any time soon :(

    Essentially:
    At L4-L5 there is significant left central disc protrusion exerting mass effect on the left anterolateral thecal sac and exiting nerve root. In combination with facet joint arthrosis is leading to asymmetrical left neural foraminal stenosis. Orthopedic opinion recommended
    At L5-S1 there is a high signal annular fissure with a left central disc bulge. bilateral facet joint arthrosis. Asymmetrical left neural foraminal stenosis.

    Might be time to dust the cobwebs off my bike instead :P

    And yes Neady83, I think Cooper is missing his running :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭FIFA2004


    Sorry to hear that Mel.b. Hopefully an ortho opinion will help. Hope things are better soon


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