Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

klose · 27-09-2016 11:55AM

dogbert27 wrote: »

Looks like Sakho won't be finding much sympathy on home soil either.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3808344/We-don-t-s-t-not-circus-Christophe-Dugarry-Emmanuel-Petit-blast-Liverpool-rebel-Mamadou-Sakho-outburst.html

I'm a fan of Sakho's but this is a battle that he will never win. He needs to get his head sorted and get with the Klopp program if he wants to remain a "scouse soldier" :rolleyes:

He made the decision to not go on loan to get himself match fit and remain to fight for his place. He has not played a competitive game since last April so even with Lovren pulling out last weekend Klavan was always going to start.

He may have been pissed that he wasn't selected for the bench but Lucas gives the option of a midfield and a CB substitution.

Klavan has done nothing to show he should be dislodged at the minute, especially for Sakho.

I've great time for sakho and love his passion for the club and team but he had acted such an idiot on this it begs belief. The doping scandal, his behaviour on tour and then being publicly told he won't play again this season and refuses a loan/transfer and then complains via social media is just so stupid of him. Impossible to find any way of supporting him on this one. If he dosent end up on loan in Italy come January I'll be amazed.!

Utopia Parkway · 27-09-2016 11:58AM

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Seems like getting out of the team was the best thing to happen to Moreno's career, people's opinion of him is already on the rise.

I'm glad he's rarely featuring anyway, lad has no brain.

Klopp has replaced him at left back with a lad who's been a right sided midfielder all his career. That says it all. Klopp will say nice things about him but he knows he's a liability. Otherwise he wouldn't be sitting on the bench. For now he's needed as we are short on full-backs but I don't think he has a long term future at the club.

Dickerty · 27-09-2016 12:12PM

No point on working too hard on Moreno when he's going to be replaced by Hector or Rodriquez!

TitianGerm · 27-09-2016 12:15PM

Dickerty wrote: »

No point on working too hard on Moreno when he's going to be replaced by Hector or Rodriquez!

I thought we were buying Rues in January for left back

dogbert27 · 27-09-2016 12:22PM

klose wrote: »

I've great time for sakho and love his passion for the club and team but he had acted such an idiot on this it begs belief. The doping scandal, his behaviour on tour and then being publicly told he won't play again this season and refuses a loan/transfer and then complains via social media is just so stupid of him. Impossible to find any way of supporting him on this one. If he dosent end up on loan in Italy come January I'll be amazed.!

Yeah I can only assume his ego was in the way of going to the likes of Stoke, Sunderland or West Brom. Saying that though seeing the start of the season Stoke and Sunderland have had it was probably right for him not to go there.

He won't be re-signed by PSG and he's not going to break in to the top 3 in Spain.

I think you're right with Italy being his next destination unless he cashes in his footballing chips early and heads off to China!!

jcsoulinger · 27-09-2016 12:57PM

Sakho has done very little on the pitch bar a few good performances, his off field persona is more annoying than inspiring, won't be sad to see him gone tbh, Ya need a level head back there something I always thought Mama will never possess.

54and56 · 27-09-2016 01:00PM

Grayditch wrote: »

Can Klopp instill some discipline and maturity in him? Maybe. It won't be an easy transition to watch.

Which is perhaps why Klopp is managing him through that transition off the 1st team stage??

Umaro · 27-09-2016 01:44PM

Its insane how much can change in 1 year.

I remember being so relieved when we beat Aston Villa and ended our 1-1 streak...

dogbert27 · 27-09-2016 02:26PM

Umaro wrote: »

Its insane how much can change in 1 year.

I remember being so relieved when we beat Aston Villa and ended our 1-1 streak...

:pac:

Potential Underachiever · 27-09-2016 02:31PM

It's amazing how much can change on a week to week basis, I'm sure everyone was dejected after the Burnley loss, lamenting how we signed poorly in the window, how the team lacked guile etc etc now people are thinking that we can win the league and no doubt if Swansea turn us over at the weekend we'll be back in the doldrums, that's football.

Grayditch · 27-09-2016 03:45PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

It's amazing how much can change on a week to week basis, I'm sure everyone was dejected after the Burnley loss, lamenting how we signed poorly in the window, how the team lacked guile etc etc now people are thinking that we can win the league and no doubt if Swansea turn us over at the weekend we'll be back in the doldrums, that's football.

Would you be partial to these opinion shifts, or is it just an observation about the thread?

Potential Underachiever · 27-09-2016 03:49PM

Grayditch wrote: »

Would you be partial to these opinion shifts, or is it just an observation about the thread?

I'd like to think I was rational and was able to remain calm and composed and think about the long term but I'd be lying, yes I was disconsolate after Burnley and Spurs! Now I wouldn't say the league is ours or anything but of course the positivity is there at the minute. I will say I have a bad feeling about this Swansea game though...

dogbert27 · 27-09-2016 03:50PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

It's amazing how much can change on a week to week basis, I'm sure everyone was dejected after the Burnley loss, lamenting how we signed poorly in the window, how the team lacked guile etc etc now people are thinking that we can win the league and no doubt if Swansea turn us over at the weekend we'll be back in the doldrums, that's football.

Already in the doldrums with the acceptance of being smashed by Swansea. Some random Swansea player is going to score goal of the month against us as we have 91.2% possession but still can't score.

LuckyLloyd · 27-09-2016 04:01PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

The whole Moreno has no brain thing really p*sses me off. He's had tons of good games for the club. He lacks concentration but that doesn't mean he's stupid, which is what "he has no brain" implies.

And to say he's done nothing to show he could potentially be a success at the club is to be very short sighed and sensationalist. Doesn't mean he doesn't need to improve a ton to be a first choice reliable option for us but he clearly has talent and has displayed it plenty of times.

I don't know why you've chosen Moreno as your hill to die on. This isn't personal, but he most definitely does not have the positional sense / anticipation / decision making of a player with a good 'football brain'. He has showy flashy qualities. He's an excellent athlete. He has a good left boot. He throws himself at things. But he's also supposed to be a left back. And the mundane yet important aspects of being a reliable top level defender are where he falls down.

Ultimately he's just a player. Piece of meat. Pack 'em, stack 'em, rack 'em. If he ain't good enough, ship on and bring in someone else. The emotional attachment demonstrated in your posts is bizarre.

Grayditch · 27-09-2016 04:17PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I'd like to think I was rational and was able to remain calm and composed and think about the long term but I'd be lying, yes I was disconsolate after Burnley and Spurs! Now I wouldn't say the league is ours or anything but of course the positivity is there at the minute. I will say I have a bad feeling about this Swansea game though...

We're only 6 games in. But we've already played 4 of the teams Swansea have played. We beat the teams they couldn't, except Burnley, which we lost and they won. Where am I going with this? Can't remember. Gonna say 1-1.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 27-09-2016 04:53PM

Ian Ayre heading to 1860 Munich next season?

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/780789674801524737

Harry Palmr · 27-09-2016 04:54PM

Ian Ayre will be taking over as CEO of 1860 Munich next summer - they are languishing in Bundesliga 2 right now but they do play at the Allianz Arena. Did Ian get confused?

Tipsy McSwagger · 27-09-2016 05:24PM

Delighted Ayre is going, the season just gets better and better.

NukaCola · 27-09-2016 05:33PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Delighted Ayre is going, the season just gets better and better.

Any particular reason?

eyerer · 27-09-2016 05:37PM

Not a fan of Nivea for men?

rob316 · 27-09-2016 05:59PM

Probably an easier job, the Liverpool job is 24/7 I'd say.

mormank · 27-09-2016 06:07PM

Really looking forward to MNF later tonight, I hear Klopp is on it. Gonna be a good one!

Harry Palmr · 27-09-2016 06:19PM

Just in case anyone missed it

(I'm only watching it now)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkHe3VaPAU

Utopia Parkway · 27-09-2016 06:35PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Ian Ayre heading to 1860 Munich next season?

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/780789674801524737

Must fancy driving his Harley on the Autobahn.

MD1990 · 27-09-2016 06:44PM

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Sakho has done very little on the pitch bar a few good performances, his off field persona is more annoying than inspiring, won't be sad to see him gone tbh, Ya need a level head back there something I always thought Mama will never possess.

Yeah it's really annoying how he has helped charities & praised,appreciated fans.:rolleyes:

27-09-2016 07:02PM

Klopp on TNF now

~Rebel~ · 27-09-2016 07:05PM

Ayre all in all has done a pretty decent job imo. We could do better, but we could do a lot worse. He's been behind a lot of the changes bringing LFC out of the dark ages, actually using the full potential of the club.

The stick he's always beaten with is the transfers falling apart thing, but even that looks somewhat different now. When we moved for realistic targets that the manager actually wanted, he got the job done.

Also there was something very nice about having an actual Liverpudlian born and raised in charge. An actual connection to, and knowledge of, the city.

~Rebel~ · 27-09-2016 07:11PM

emmetkenny wrote: »

I thought we were buying Rues in January for left back

It's kinda funny that we joked about having an attacking midfielder at left back - and now that's exactly what we have.

And with Milner doing as well as he's doing back there - just imagine how great Reus will be!

mosstin · 27-09-2016 07:24PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Ayre all in all has done a pretty decent job imo. We could do better, but we could do a lot worse. He's been behind a lot of the changes bringing LFC out of the dark ages, actually using the full potential of the club.

The stick he's always beaten with is the transfers falling apart thing, but even that looks somewhat different now. When we moved for realistic targets that the manager actually wanted, he got the job done.

Also there was something very nice about having an actual Liverpudlian born and raised in charge. An actual connection to, and knowledge of, the city.

Not at all. David Moores sold us down the ****ing river and he was a Red through and through.

jcsoulinger · 27-09-2016 07:34PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Yeah it's really annoying how he has helped charities & praised,appreciated fans.:rolleyes:

Fair play to him on the charity work, players are generally praising of fans, I was more referring to him acting the clown.

I fear Alot of people find his personality endearing and are then willing to overlook his glaring inadequacies. As they really want him to succeed.

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