Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Agent Coulson · 24-09-2016 05:38PM

Matip ready to step into the role as the new Boss.

One_Of_Shanks · 24-09-2016 05:40PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Matip ready to step into the role as the new Boss.

Damn right. He's a Rolls Royce of a player.

NukaCola · 24-09-2016 05:42PM

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Still yet to see the predicted armageddon from Milner playing LB.

A bit of hyperbole there, but yea he's done much better than I thought he would and long may it continue........I think I said not signing a new LB will cost us points but I'll be more than happy to get that wrong

Alonso77 · 24-09-2016 05:44PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Apologies in advance to the decent contributors to this thread.

But seriously, the chuckle brothers need to be pulled up for their incessant drivel that they post. Liverpool are after thrashing Hull 5-1 and these two just continue to post up their petty agenda driven snide, douchy comments, a pair of jokers take the show on the road will yous.

Coulson that's the 3rd/4th time you mentioned the 'main man' Firmino today, you're being an insufferable bore, it's so obvious you're trying to bait people, Turd, you just go on and on and on about Sturridge again it's insufferable, give it a break for the love of god, both of yous ruin this thread imo.

Knex put up a good post about bitchiness and sniping and agendas recently, you guys are the main perpetrators. I can't see why yous can't just change the f'ing record and enjoy the wins and stop with the sh1t stirring.

Most overused word on this thread at times. Ffs! We are just pool fans on a Liverpool thread having a bit of Bantz and sometimes decent discussion. Some people need to just calm down and imagine a nice hug from Klopp.

One_Of_Shanks · 24-09-2016 05:45PM

NukaCola wrote: »

A bit of hyperbole there, but yea he's done much better than I thought he would and long may it continue........I think I said not signing a new LB will cost us points but I'll be more than happy to get that wrong

Ha, well I don't know if it's quite hyperbole. Afterall there were about a hundred thousand posts about it.
(now there's yer hyperbole)

But seriously yeah its great that it's working out pretty well so far, regardless of which side of the fence any of us were on regarding the subject.

NukaCola · 24-09-2016 05:47PM

Gbear wrote: »

He's still comfortably our best striker as things stand.

We are a more cohesive attacking force without him IMO. He does work well in the team also I just think we have a lot more energy, pressing and attack without him.

5starpool · 24-09-2016 05:50PM

Gbear wrote: »

Sturridge didn't train much during the week. AFAIK that's why he didn't start. I think he'll be starting most of those kinds of games this season, including Swansea next weekend (fitness permitting as ever).

I think the last few games have shown that he's very much buying into things, he's gelling with the style and those around him, he's willing to work and his quality is getting a bit closer to the levels we saw before as well (although I think his serious pace is gone for good).

He's still comfortably our best striker as things stand.

I wouldn't say he's answered the questions about him because physically it seems he'll never be quite there to the same degree, but for the time being everythings rosy in Sturridge land.

Who would you leave out for Sturridge? None of Mane, Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana deserve to be benched. Sturridge has often been very good when he has played, but those 4 deserve to start when fit as our most forward 4 players, and some of the hardest working.

If Klopp starts him I'm OK with that too, but I don't think he generally deserves to on the evidence so far this season.

NukaCola · 24-09-2016 05:50PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Apologies in advance to the decent contributors to this thread.

There's an ignore function if it really bothers you, theres a report function if you think they are out of line. In fairness you cant just ask people to post the way you want through name calling and critique their posts as drivel......Fair enough you don't like their style of posting, just let it go as the song says......

NukaCola · 24-09-2016 05:52PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Matip ready to step into the role as the new Boss.

Was excellent today. Calm and steady, cant overestimate how important that is in a CB.

rossie1977 · 24-09-2016 05:52PM

Watching Newcastle and villa and seeing two champions league winning managers in the opposing dugouts.

Begs the question has that ever previously happened where two former winners of Europeans biggest club competition faced each other in the second tier

Agent Coulson · 24-09-2016 05:55PM

NukaCola wrote: »

Was excellent today. Calm and steady, cant overestimate how important that is in a CB.

He also hasn't had a regular partner yet and a new keeper behind him.

Once the back 5 is settled I think he will be a monster and maybe captain as well would suit him and lift that pressure off Henderson.

Gbear · 24-09-2016 05:56PM

NukaCola wrote: »

We are a more cohesive attacking force without him IMO. He does work well in the team also I just think we have a lot more energy, pressing and attack without him.

I think some days an outright striker is called for.

Firmino can fill in and in some games you don't even really need one, but we certainly can't afford not to have that option.

No need to get too worked up about today and it's worth keeping Burnley firmly in mind.

Hull are a terrible squad with no manager. They will probably finish bottom.
A bit of togetherness was brought about by their predicament but it seems likely their season will carry on more like the past two weeks than the first few weeks.

You can only beat what's in front of you, but honestly, they were ****ing dreadful. Two penalties and down to 10 for most of the game. And how much joy Milner got on the right is more a reflection of them than Milner. He's been good in all but one game but he shouldn't be taking on two and 3 players and getting it that easy.

It's great to see that we can take advantage of weakness. It's vital not to let these points escape when they're offered up, and we certainly earned them with our work rate.

But it's only one element of the puzzle, and it's certainly a bit early to be dismissing either the notion that we should have a senior LB worth the name in the squad, or the other issues raised in the summer.

On the plus side, early signs are that things aren't just straight away reverting to type elsewhere, so we mightn't have to be as good as some (such as myself) feared to do something interesting this season.

Agent Coulson · 24-09-2016 05:57PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Watching Newcastle and villa and seeing two champions league winning managers in the opposing dugouts.

Begs the question has that ever previously happened where two former winners of Europeans biggest club competition faced each other in the second tier

No it's also the first time two European Cup winners have played in a second division..Forest & Villa.

Osmosis Jones · 24-09-2016 05:59PM

It's nice watching this Arsenal vs Chelsea match knowing we've already beaten the two of them this season.

Turtyturd · 24-09-2016 06:00PM

NukaCola wrote: »

There's an ignore function if it really bothers you, theres a report function if you think they are out of line. In fairness you cant just ask people to post the way you want through name calling and critique their posts as drivel......Fair enough you don't like their style of posting, just let it go as the song says......

Don't forget the close account option. The attention seekers love that one.

Agent Coulson · 24-09-2016 06:01PM

Watching Klopp's Liverpool get's me all Kenny Powers excited.

magentis · 24-09-2016 06:02PM

Our year?

Potential Underachiever · 24-09-2016 06:03PM

NukaCola wrote: »

There's an ignore function if it really bothers you, theres a report function if you think they are out of line. In fairness you cant just ask people to post the way you want through name calling and critique their posts as drivel......Fair enough you don't like their style of posting, just let it go as the song says......

I shall bow back out of the thread now, I hadn't posted in about 8 months, I know nobody will lose sleep over that fact but anyway.

While I'm here, so that it's not all negative yourself, Rebel, Harry, 5star, Busts are all very good contributors to the thread, keep up the good work

Ciao.

Gbear · 24-09-2016 06:05PM

5starpool wrote: »

Who would you leave out for Sturridge? None of Mane, Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana deserve to be benched. Sturridge has often been very good when he has played, but those 4 deserve to start when fit as our most forward 4 players, and some of the hardest working.

If Klopp starts him I'm OK with that too, but I don't think he generally deserves to on the evidence so far this season.

I don't think Coutinho is secure in his position based on his performances this season.

And it's not just a question of who's on form. Sturridge has shown more form than Mignolet or Karius, but you don't drop your keeper for him because you need someone in that position, as you sometimes need a CF.

Charlie19 · 24-09-2016 06:06PM

NukaCola wrote: »

A bit of hyperbole there, but yea he's done much better than I thought he would and long may it continue........I think I said not signing a new LB will cost us points but I'll be more than happy to get that wrong

I don't think anybody doubted Milners ability to play at LB, my only problem was having just Moreno as cover.

I suppose Klavan could fill in at LB if needed.

One_Of_Shanks · 24-09-2016 06:10PM

5starpool wrote: »

Who would you leave out for Sturridge? None of Mane, Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana deserve to be benched. Sturridge has often been very good when he has played, but those 4 deserve to start when fit as our most forward 4 players, and some of the hardest working.

If Klopp starts him I'm OK with that too, but I don't think he generally deserves to on the evidence so far this season.

Yeah this is spot on.

The "agenda" comment from another poster was a bit odd imo. I don't think anyone cares who starts so long as we win.

Sturridge is a great striker, nobody can doubt that. But it's about the team and the way this team is evolving it's all about movement and work-rate rather than who's the best finisher etc.

Klopp himself would probably tell you straight out that he knows Sturridge is our best finisher and he'll get game time.
Just not as much game time as he would get at most other clubs.
That's down to the other options we have and how they suit our game more in certain situations.

I personally don't think Sturridge will be with us next season. That's not meant as an insult, nor an agenda, more just an observation from watching how Klopp goes about things.
I think Sturridge is a phenomenal player by the way.

Agent Coulson · 24-09-2016 06:10PM

The Roman Empire is coming to an end I think.

5starpool · 24-09-2016 06:10PM

Gbear wrote: »

I don't think Coutinho is secure in his position based on his performances this season.

And it's not just a question of who's on form. Sturridge has shown more form than Mignolet or Karius, but you don't drop your keeper for him because you need someone in that position, as you sometimes need a CF.

I agree Coutinho is probably the most 'rotatable' of them, but we'll be seeing less of that at this stage of the season with no European football.

NukaCola · 24-09-2016 06:11PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The Roman Empire is coming to an end I think.

Plenty of time for Arsenal to do an Arsenal though

livinginkorea · 24-09-2016 06:12PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The Roman Empire is coming to an end I think.

Watching that. Making it so easy for Arsenal. Loving Macca's commentary - saying like it is.

Agent Coulson · 24-09-2016 06:14PM

NukaCola wrote: »

Plenty of time for Arsenal to do an Arsenal though

In this game yes.

But I'm talking about being a guaranteed top 4 team.

His money doesn't count and make the difference anymore with the new tv money.

Gbear · 24-09-2016 06:20PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

In this game yes.

But I'm talking about being a guaranteed top 4 team.

His money doesn't count and make the difference anymore with the new tv money.

Having a squad of about 100 players probably has something to do with it as well.

I'd imagine they've signed the most players of any team around and have the biggest squad.

You can only play 11 so that's not doing them much good and as is his want, Mourinho left the side in a bit of a state - their defence is fairly ancient in particular.
If they can actually leverage their squad and not have more situations like losing DeBruyne they won't be missing for long.

And I wouldn't write them off based on losing to Liverpool and Arsenal either, as terrible as they've looked.

Gbear · 24-09-2016 06:23PM

5starpool wrote: »

I agree Coutinho is probably the most 'rotatable' of them, but we'll be seeing less of that at this stage of the season with no European football.

I don't think it's rotation. I think it's a toss up between which 4 of those 5 at the minute and there will be times when Sturridge will be seen as a strictly better option.

5starpool · 24-09-2016 06:25PM

Gbear wrote: »

I don't think it's rotation. I think it's a toss up between which 4 of those 5 at the minute and there will be times when Sturridge will be seen as a strictly better option.

Either way, it is great to have options like that. When Can comes back fully fit as he is near now, the same discussions are relevant for the midfield.

I'm loving the positivity for now anyhow, long may it last.

J Mysterio · 24-09-2016 06:28PM

Another good game from Wijnaldum today. Himself and Lalana knitting everything together, keeping it ticking away nicely.

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