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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

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  • #4142
    Whatsisname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    https://twitter.com/kevin_blundell/status/777493652184698881

    Wayyyy stats.


  • #4143
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    deaddonkey15 wrote: »
    I'm not defending him, but unlike most in this thread I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and pretend that all our problems will be solved by Rooney's removal from the team.

    No one has said that.

    Continue your condescension though. You're gas.


  • #4144
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    deaddonkey15 wrote: »
    I'm not defending him, but unlike most in this thread I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and pretend that all our problems will be solved by Rooney's removal from the team.

    242.gif

    Moderator: Forum Games, Conspiracy Theories, Current Affairs/IMHO



  • #4145
    edgecutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    deaddonkey15 wrote: »
    I'm not defending him, but unlike most in this thread I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and pretend that all our problems will be solved by Rooney's removal from the team.

    So do you believe that he should continue to play week in week out? Would we be a better team without him?

    In my opinion I would say yes to all theses. The guy looks like he is in his 40s never mind turning 31.


  • #4146
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    Why the f**k did Moyes give Rooney that contract!?!?

    There has got to be some bulls**t on it about playing time.

    You're captain just can't be the worst player. He is beyond atrocious, plays 90 minutes and goes home with 300k in his pocket every week.

    Maybe it's time to get that good old banner and airplane out


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  • #4147
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    gosplan wrote: »
    3 defeats is hard to take but unlike Chelsea last year, the team fought back there and put in a shift in the second half.

    Marking needs to be better but Rooney has to go. Nearly everything goes through him and right now it's going wide or out or coming straight back.

    Not starting Mata instead of him at this stage would be insane.
    And ironically enough, our best performances so far came with Mata on the pitch. Not sure why he was dropped tbh.


  • #4148
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    deaddonkey15 wrote: »
    I'm not defending him, but unlike most in this thread I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and pretend that all our problems will be solved by Rooney's removal from the team.

    A lot of problems will be solved by removing him. A lot

    It's a very simple problem Mourinho is being presented with here, that even the commentators were making out as some form of conundrum.

    Pogba and Rooney arn't going to both be accommodated. So you need to pick one. It's Pogba so blatantly it shouldn't even merit discussion.


  • #4149
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Manutd_4life wrote: »
    Why the f**k did Moyes give Rooney that contract!?!?

    There has got to be some bulls**t on it about playing time.

    You're captain just can't be the worst player. He is beyond atrocious, plays 90 minutes and goes home with 300k in his pocket every week.

    Maybe it's time to get that good old banner and airplane out

    To individually target a player? That would be way beyond what's acceptable.


  • #4150
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    Smalling was also horrific today!!! Blind needs to come back in.


  • #4151
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Haha good man McManaman. It's Fellaini fault that Pogba can't play in a two at Utd.


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  • #4152
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    To individually target a player? That would be way beyond what's acceptable.

    Yeah I know that is a bit over the top. I'm just fuming atm after witnessing that gobsh*te


  • #4153
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Manutd_4life wrote: »
    Smalling was also horrific today!!! Blind needs to come back in.

    Utd struggled as it was under the high ball. Playing Blind would have only added to those problems.


  • #4154
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    adox wrote: »
    Haha good man McManaman. It's Fellaini fault that Pogba can't play in a two at Utd.

    Just turned of the TV after the final whistle. I'd say there will no subjective analysis, and Rooney will get away again thanks to all his media pals.


  • #4155
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Here come the excuses. Always the referee's fault for Jose.


  • #4156
    sReq | uTeK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    superfurry1 wrote: »
    Bailly had a shocker Shaw was at fault for second goal just backed off and let the pass go Fellaini was good needed hererra. instead of rooney and mata for young bad day hopefully we can put it right next week.


    Shaw wasn't on the pitch for the 2nd goal


  • #4157
    spiralism
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    There's no fixing this lads. As a club we are just rotten from top to bottom, it's an absolute shambles. Can't wait for this season to end. I hate this ****ing team.


  • #4158
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Disappointing to hear Mourhino blame the ref for the first goal, although not unexpected.

    At least holding his hands up for the second goal.


  • #4159
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    adox wrote: »
    Haha good man McManaman. It's Fellaini fault that Pogba can't play in a two at Utd.

    Lots of this going around. Thought Fellaini was our best player today tbh.

    I'll take a stab at how I think we should be lining up.

    Front three of Rashford, Ibra and Martial. Shaw and Valencia (maybe Young would be better) providing width. Midfield three with Pogba furthest forward. Fellaini and a combo of the various players who can play in midfield that haven't been given their head this year (Schneiderlin, Herrera, Carrick etc) in a two sitting and screening/giving the ball to the better players.

    It means no space for Rooney or Mata, but they've had their cha ce in midfield and whilst doing a few bits and pieces, they are creating an imbalance because it's not natural off them. Like it or not Rooney fans, but Pogba is the future and both him and Rooney in midfield is not working.


  • #4160
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    adox wrote: »
    Disappointing to hear Mourhino blame the ref for the first goal, although not unexpected.

    At least holding his hands up for the second goal.

    Why? It was an obvious foul.


  • #4161
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    spiralism wrote: »
    There's no fixing this lads. As a club we are just rotten from top to bottom

    There is fixing it. It just involves a lot of ballsy decisions which I'm not so sure if Jose is capable of doing so.


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  • #4162
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,463 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    It took £8m to get rid of LVG see if Rooney would do the same, he is ruining the team.


  • #4163
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    RasTa wrote: »
    Why? It was an obvious foul.

    No. debatable at best.


  • #4164
    Thea Tasteless Seam
    Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Thea Tasteless Seam


    super_furry wrote: »
    Here come the excuses. Always the referee's fault for Jose.

    Why are you suddenly so concerned out of interest?


  • #4165
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    spiralism wrote: »
    There's no fixing this lads. As a club we are just rotten from top to bottom, it's an absolute shambles. Can't wait for this season to end. I hate this ****ing team.

    Care to elaborate?


  • #4166
    Adamocovic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    Not too sure what to expect for the midweek game.

    The players who haven't been getting games in the league need to take their chances now and push Mourinho into a decision, can't waste their chances like in the Feyenoord match.

    Definitely should see some huge changes made for Northampton game, only hope we see a change in performance too.


  • #4167
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    adox wrote: »
    No. debatable at best.

    Rubbish, straight through the player to get the ball is always a foul.


  • #4168
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    super_furry wrote: »
    Here come the excuses. Always the referee's fault for Jose.

    I mean, it was a clear foul. I'm never really sure what people want managers to say. Blame the players: Get criticised. Blame the ref: Get criticised. Blame yourself: Get criticised. When you lose and there's a camera shoved in your face looking for soundbites, honest and meaningful critique is not what you get.


  • #4169
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    Lots of this going around. Thought Fellaini was our best player today tbh.

    I'll take a stab at how I think we should be lining up.

    Front three of Rashford, Ibra and Martial. Shaw and Valencia (maybe Young would be better) providing width. Midfield three with Pogba furthest forward. Fellaini and a combo of the various players who can play in midfield that haven't been given their head this year (Schneiderlin, Herrera, Carrick etc) in a two sitting and screening/giving the ball to the better players.

    It means no space for Rooney or Mata, but they've had their cha ce in midfield and whilst doing a few bits and pieces, they are creating an imbalance because it's not natural off them. Like it or not Rooney fans, but Pogba is the future and both him and Rooney in midfield is not working.


    Yep and it was the constant lazy commentary from Savage on Fellaini that set that narrative.

    I'd have the same team as you picked.


  • #4170
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Hard to see where we go from here.

    It's seems United haven't got the winning mentality anymore. For 3 years we've blamed the coaches but it seems to be a much bigger problem

    Sickening looking at City now.


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  • #4171
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    RasTa wrote: »
    Rubbish, straight through the player to get the ball is always a foul.

    It's debatable whether he went through the player or not so your point is moot.

    I've been watching it on a stream but I didn't think it was a free kick. Even if it was it certainly wasn't as black and white as you are making out.


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