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Werewolf I - The Beginning | Completed - Villagers Win

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  • #932
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    tritium wrote: »
    One other thing sullivlo, can we assume the seer is still active (i assume you see the deads roles)?
    I presume she would have told us if the seer had been killed. We can only assume that they have more brains than other role-holders and are keeping schtum, instead of drawing attention to themselves and pointing fingers at fellow-villagers.


  • #933
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    mahamageehad wrote: »
    She already said no, all villagers.
    Explain why you voted for outsiders both nights so and who your suspects are. You're not acting like a team player, it's not "stupid logic" to assume you might be playing for the other team so.

    Sorry I only saw how badly I worded that, I was calling logic stupid, not your logic specifically. It was a joke.

    My vote for you was cast at like 11am as explained, it was based off a few posts of yours, I wasn't aware we could change votes and I have changed my view and believe you're a villager now.

    I don't think Persopoly is an outsider from her comment yesterday morning about casting the vote, I believe I'm not the only one who suspects them for the same reasoning.

    While I regret my vote for you, I think Persopoly is a wolf based on that, I had also suspected Mick but he had shown himself to be clean too.

    My logic for someone looking like a wolf and sounding like a wolf applies to me pointing the finger at Trigger also, also basing my accusations of him on a hunch.

    I don't have any other guesses at who the wolves are at the minute.

    We need to count votes to ensure Sullivo doesn't get lynched tonight, but beware of the wolves lying, we need 9 people to agree on a single villager. That way if all of the wolves were part of the nine and jump ship, there will still be 5 votes against someone else to counter them.

    Does my planning of the priests coming out to try catch wolves not show me as a team player, or condemn me further in your eyes.


  • #934
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Sorry I only saw how badly I worded that, I was calling logic stupid, not your logic specifically. It was a joke.

    My vote for you was cast at like 11am as explained, it was based off a few posts of yours, I wasn't aware we could change votes and I have changed my view and believe you're a villager now.

    I don't think Persopoly is an outsider from her comment yesterday morning about casting the vote, I believe I'm not the only one who suspects them for the same reasoning.

    While I regret my vote for you, I think Persopoly is a wolf based on that, I had also suspected Mick but he had shown himself to be clean too.

    My logic for someone looking like a wolf and sounding like a wolf applies to me pointing the finger at Trigger also, also basing my accusations of him on a hunch.

    I don't have any other guesses at who the wolves are at the minute.

    We need to count votes to ensure Sullivo doesn't get lynched tonight, but beware of the wolves lying, we need 9 people to agree on a single villager. That way if all of the wolves were part of the nine and jump ship, there will still be 5 votes against someone else to counter them.

    Does my planning of the priests coming out to try catch wolves not show me as a team player, or condemn me further in your eyes.

    That is the dodgiest post I've seen yet. I'm voting for DS.


  • #935
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Ficheall wrote: »
    That is the dodgiest post I've seen yet. I'm voting for DS.

    i agree
    they can block vote all they want thats them expoed straight away
    we need to vote in secret at the last minute
    i don't care if people vote for me but the wolves will have to have dome strategy and will have to show themselves


  • #936
    mahamageehad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Sorry I only saw how badly I worded that, I was calling logic stupid, not your logic specifically. It was a joke.

    My vote for you was cast at like 11am as explained, it was based off a few posts of yours, I wasn't aware we could change votes and I have changed my view and believe you're a villager now.

    I don't think Persopoly is an outsider from her comment yesterday morning about casting the vote, I believe I'm not the only one who suspects them for the same reasoning.

    While I regret my vote for you, I think Persopoly is a wolf based on that, I had also suspected Mick but he had shown himself to be clean too.

    My logic for someone looking like a wolf and sounding like a wolf applies to me pointing the finger at Trigger also, also basing my accusations of him on a hunch.

    I don't have any other guesses at who the wolves are at the minute.

    We need to count votes to ensure Sullivo doesn't get lynched tonight, but beware of the wolves lying, we need 9 people to agree on a single villager. That way if all of the wolves were part of the nine and jump ship, there will still be 5 votes against someone else to counter them.

    Does my planning of the priests coming out to try catch wolves not show me as a team player, or condemn me further in your eyes.

    Your idea about 9 people is logical, but I think it's misplaced. The wolves would be fools to put 4 votes on Sulli, they might as well announce that they're wolves. I do agree that we should get consensus but I don't think Sulli is at risk of lynching. I think the wolves will get together and propose someone else for the race if we accidentally pick a wolf to focus on. Sulli is a big risk to get eaten tomorrow but I think should be ok for tonight.


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  • #937
    mahamageehad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    Tigger wrote: »
    i agree
    they can block vote all they want thats them expoed straight away
    we need to vote in secret at the last minute
    i don't care if people vote for me but the wolves will have to have dome strategy and will have to show themselves

    That only works if we all vote in secret but the wolves will know who they are voting for so they'll likely pick a different person each, random even, long as they're not a wolf.


  • #938
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Tigger wrote: »
    they can block vote all they want thats them expoed straight away
    we need to vote in secret at the last minute
    If everyone votes in secret, then it's almost random, and therefore the odds of the villagers (not including the wolves) picking a wolf are 4/16, ie. 1 in 4.
    Factor in that the wolves won't (or at least needn't) vote for each other (no matter which way they distribute their votes amongst the wolves) and the odds become even slimmer. And we learn nothing from the random distribution of votes.


  • #939
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Edit: (no matter which way they distribute their votes among the villagers)


  • #940
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Ok, ive mentioned persepoly and the dazzler as two i feel are wolves. How would people feel about putting them in a run against each other? Specifically is there anyone who goes against the opinion they may be wolves and why.


  • #941
    andy125
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭andy125


    mahamageehad wrote: »
    That only works if we all vote in secret but the wolves will know who they are voting for so they'll likely pick a different person each, random even, long as they're not a wolf.

    Yea that's exactly what will happen, I still strongly believe in going for the sleepers which no one has yet seem to have suspected which is very surprising


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  • #942
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    I'm happy to vote for either of those two.


  • #943
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Ficheall wrote: »
    That is the dodgiest post I've seen yet. I'm voting for DS.

    Really? Can you explain please.

    As I explained yesterday it's almost impossible to change someone's opinion without sounding desperate, and desperation would be the act of a wolf in my eyes, so I'm not going to go above and beyond to change minds that are made up.

    Who are the top suspects, Dazzler, Persolpoly and myself? Obviously my word that I'm a villager means **** but I didn't think I was digging my own grave so soon


  • #944
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Ficheall wrote: »
    If everyone votes in secret, then it's almost random, and therefore the odds of the villagers (not including the wolves) picking a wolf are 4/16, ie. 1 in 4.
    Factor in that the wolves won't (or at least needn't) vote for each other (no matter which way they distribute their votes amongst the wolves) and the odds become even slimmer. And we learn nothing from the random distribution of votes.

    wolves dont vote to lynch villagers the vote to protect wolves
    unless we pick a wolf they don't need to do anything and if we all pick one person the wolve will vote with us because
    a if its a wolf then fough luck wolfie its too bad
    b if it not a wolf then they are sorted

    we will then be no wiser

    HOWEVER
    if we all meet here at 21-55 and decide then we can discuss who we are voting for but the vote is secret and we can say one person and vote another


  • #945
    sullivlo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    Seer is still alive!


  • #946
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    tritium wrote: »
    Ok, ive mentioned persepoly and the dazzler as two i feel are wolves. How would people feel about putting them in a run against each other? Specifically is there anyone who goes against the opinion they may be wolves and why.

    i think they are likley candidates
    i think we should vote late and some of us should missrepresent who we are voting for


  • #947
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    sullivlo wrote: »
    Seer is still alive!
    seers position is a funny one
    they are no good if the people they look at are gone so unlike the priests who gain more info as we go along they gather some info and then it becomes less ass the people they looked at die
    logically the seer needs to be giving clues so if they die and the priest tell us they were a seer then we can look back at their posts with renewed understanding


  • #948
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    If everyone posts their top candidates for the wolves, and we do this daily until Sullivo tells us that the seer has died, and who it was, we will have their posts to go off as law. With everyone posting the wolves won't know exactly who it is.

    Is that a plan?

    Don't change votes without good reason and the wolves won't be able to identify who is switching villagers from suspect to innocent without proof, ie the seer ability.

    Or we make a list of players, just say suspect or not, everyone does this and we see how the standing is, will also make it easier to view the seers thoughts if they die before they can identify all 4 wolves.


  • #949
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not sure about Dazzler being a wolf. What's the reasoning behind that? I kind of get where you're coming from with your assumption that I am, my question yesterday morning was foolish.

    Why is nobody questioning Mrs Flashdance?


  • #950
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Really? Can you explain please.

    As I explained yesterday it's almost impossible to change someone's opinion without sounding desperate, and desperation would be the act of a wolf in my eyes, so I'm not going to go above and beyond to change minds that are made up.

    Who are the top suspects, Dazzler, Persolpoly and myself? Obviously my word that I'm a villager means **** but I didn't think I was digging my own grave so soon

    Meh, you accused me groundlessly yesterday :P I'm just trying to stir a reaction.

    However:
    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm not sure about Dazzler being a wolf. What's the reasoning behind that? I kind of get where you're coming from with your assumption that I am, my question yesterday morning was foolish.

    Why is nobody questioning Mrs Flashdance?

    This looks pretty damning.


  • #951
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know I'm not a wolf. We can go back and forth on this all day.

    Digital Solitude seems to have a plan. Are we going to implement it?


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  • #952
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    No offence to DS, but that plan falls rather flat on its face once Sullivlo is killed.


  • #953
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ficheall wrote: »
    No offence to DS, but that plan falls rather flat on its face once Sullivlo is killed.

    I'll have another read back over it.


  • #954
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Ficheall wrote: »
    No offence to DS, but that plan falls rather flat on its face once Sullivlo is killed.

    Which is why we need to ensure he isn't killed.

    Regardless, no villager will vote for Sullivo, anyone who votes for him is definitely a wolf, as was geeheads logic against my last idea. We don't have a way of stopping him dying tonight though


  • #955
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Also, can the other fella who was pointing the finger at me explain it, not geehead.

    Also geehead give yourself a new nickname if you don't like geehead :D


  • #956
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    If everyone posts their top candidates for the wolves, and we do this daily until Sullivo tells us that the seer has died, and who it was, we will have their posts to go off as law. With everyone posting the wolves won't know exactly who it is.

    Is that a plan?

    Don't change votes without good reason and the wolves won't be able to identify who is switching villagers from suspect to innocent without proof, ie the seer ability.

    Or we make a list of players, just say suspect or not, everyone does this and we see how the standing is, will also make it easier to view the seers thoughts if they die before they can identify all 4 wolves.
    Maths problem
    We start with 20 players and a dead kersatt
    We lose 2 players a round
    In order for the wolves to win they need to have the same number of people as us
    So assuming they win at 4-4 that's 8 players remaining 12 gone
    That means only 5 villagers can be lynched incorrectly or we loose
    6 incorrect lynchings + 6 subsequent wolf kills is death for us
    For each correct lynching we can have an incorrect one after at the moment we have two incorrect so this is a crucial vote which we must either get right or learn enough from to get the next one right


  • #957
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Which is why we need to ensure he isn't killed.

    Regardless, no villager will vote for Sullivo, anyone who votes for him is definitely a wolf, as was geeheads logic against my last idea. We don't have a way of stopping him dying tonight though

    Which means we all must be in agreement to vote for someone else.


  • #958
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Which means we all must be in agreement to vote for someone else.

    Ok how's about you


  • #959
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tigger wrote: »
    Ok how's about you

    We need to stick together now. I won't be voting for Sullivlo. Lets see if we can come to a consensus on who to vote for.


  • #960
    mahamageehad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    tritium wrote: »
    Ok, ive mentioned persepoly and the dazzler as two i feel are wolves. How would people feel about putting them in a run against each other? Specifically is there anyone who goes against the opinion they may be wolves and why.

    I have no problem with this. The odds of one of them being a wolf are good. Persepolys defense of Dazzler also seems odd.


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  • #961
    mahamageehad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Which means we all must be in agreement to vote for someone else.

    I think ye are misunderstanding each other. I think Sulli is safe from the vote tonight, but she can't stop the wolves eating her afterwards.


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