Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II **off topic discussion**

Interesting article in the IT this morning about the sports drink industry and whether they do anything of benefit or just an advertisers dream.

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/fitness/do-you-really-need-sports-drinks-when-you-are-running-1.2751558

Crocked wrote: »

Interesting article in the IT this morning about the sports drink industry and whether they do anything of benefit or just an advertisers dream.

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/fitness/do-you-really-need-sports-drinks-when-you-are-running-1.2751558

I'm not staying strictly on topic but the house of cards that is the sports nutrition and convenience health food industry could fall down some day. But the advertising industry is far superior to the general public's willingness to do things the hard or natural way and not reach for a quick fix in a bright shiny bottle.

I was into bodybuilding in the late 90's and all the same gimmicks and fads have now made their way into the mainstream. Not everything was bad though eg good fats and less sugar was preached by bodybuilders long before today's crossfits and personal trainers and operation transformers.

The only advantage I can see of any energy drink/isotonic drink/gel etc or any other supplement is convenience. We could all add a teaspoon of sugar and salt to a litre of tap water, flavour with cordial and head off but it's easier to grab a 4-pack of lucozade sport type drink for a few quid in the supermarket or garage.

In the same way cheap milk and fig rolls will stand up against most expensive supplements.

When I started cycling two years ago I tried all the gels and drinks. I'd say I had 4 gels at least on my first WW200 and 4 lucozade sports type drinks during the day as well as water. I recently did a
300km with supermarket fig rolls, jellies , flapjacks and approx 6 bottles plain water and no gels. For placebo reasons I did take one old diarolyte I found when clearing out the medicine press to 'beat the cramps' ha!

In summary most of the drinks industry is driven by how much repackaged sugar can be peddled for and has little to do with health or science or performance.

I'm still a sucker though as I had a can of coke at every control on the 300km audax. Caffeine is performance enhancing but that's for another day. I've waffled enough for one post already.

Beasty wrote: »

Yes you are;)

Well played sir

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Its hard to believe so many people don't know what a healthy diet is (and isn't ).

I've gone down the route of paying somebody to do it for me, I've lost 5 stone in the last 15 months. I got the first three off myself without any guidance, after that it became difficult to shift more weight. Thing is though as my weight loss slowed down the inches still fell off my belly.
I don't know enough about nutrition to do it myself so I've shown my workout plan and targets to a guy that cooks and supplies food to a lot of bodybuilders and fighters, I get 3 meals a day, 5 days a week for €60. I add my own breakfast and post workout meal (breakfast is eggs and post workout I just have a protein shake mixed with 50g of oats)
Still dropping inches and learning to ignore the scales

manafana wrote: »

Relying on someone else is never a long term solution to anything, end of day if its in its natural state its got help. Just avoid sugar.

That's easy to say, but less easy to do.

For example, I do a Pilates class for an hour a week. If I didn't go to the class, would I do the exercises? Maybe, but probably not. Paying an instructor means that it's an easy as possible for me to do the workout and minimises the risk that I'll skip out. If I do miss a class, there's also an element of shame in admitting I didn't go the following week*.

Sometimes you're not paying so much for the information nor the service, as the "discipline".


*this is easily avoided by not going ever again

Why did no one tell me shims no chains are directional ffs shifting perfect now even with a kmc link.

magicbastarder wrote: »

how can you tell if a chain is directional, and if so, what direction to use?

It was only the previous generation Shimano 10 speed chains that were directional i think (7900/6700/5700). The series markings should face out to the drive side.
That said I have seen these chains installed the 'wrong way' and they worked absolutely fine.

Chuchote wrote: »

Some advice, please. After several years without a puncture, I've had three in succession on a back tyre that's looking rather bald. It's been suggested to me that I should get Marathons, one of these two:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Schwalbe-Cruiser-Puncture-Protection-Gumwall/dp/B000UJ5QUA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471172173&sr=8-2&keywords=700+x+35c+tyre
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Schwalbe-Marathon-Performance-Greenguard-Endurance/dp/B004T0GCYU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1471172173&sr=8-7&keywords=700+x+35c+tyre

How do they cycle? Does the increased thickness make them heavy or slow?

If you want bombproof go for these http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/schwalbe-marathon-plus-road-tyre-smart-guard/rp-prod24544 a great price at the moment on CRC. They are the tyres fitted to Dublin Bikes. On the heavy side but great peace of mind.