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World War 3

  • 31-07-2016 11:52PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭


    Could it happen in this modern age?? or have we learn't our lesson from mistakes of the past?

    If it does happen what are the likely scenario of it kicking off??

    the middle-east + another 9/11 ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Some people would say we are in it right now and that it started on 11/9/01. It's just not traditional nuclear war of the 1960s vision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The world is preparing for war. Obama is looking to spend $1 trillion over the next 30 years on the US nuclear weapons sector which includes delivery systems, 1,000 nuclear bombs, newer nuclear subs, and planes.

    NATO currently have the most troops and military on Russia's border since WW2.

    US and China are preparing to fight over the South China sea.

    Obama who won a Nobel peace prize for what he said about nuclear weapons, is currently going ahead with the development of mini nuclear bombs which can be used more readily than conventional nuclear weapons.

    The world has been in a downward spiral for a long time now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    It's an outside possibility. However, it's hard to identify the spark. Could be something like....

    o Russia gambles that a weakened United States won't react to a takeover of the Baltic States. However, the Americans respond with a conventional or nuclear strike.

    o China has a major dispute with Japan or Taiwan over contested islands. The USA guarantees the security of Japan and Taiwan, bringing China into a conflict with the USA

    o Europe is constantly attacked by terrorists. Eventually, NATO strikes at the Islamic World. Lines are drawn in the sand. Russia becomes involved.

    WW3, in my opinion, is highly unlikely. China need to trade with other countries. Russia knows that it cannot defeat the USA militarily. There's no more superpowers.

    Need to rewatch Red Dawn or The Day After!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Like totes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    As Marilyn Monroe said:

    I don't know how WW3 will be fought but I know WW4 will be fought with spears.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    There is a very interesting John Pilger radio interview in the link which shows the dangers of when Hillary becomes President, everything up to nuclear war is discussed.

    http://store.counterpunch.org/john-pilger-episode-47/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    RobertKK wrote: »
    The world is preparing for war. Obama is looking to spend $1 trillion over the next 30 years on the US nuclear weapons sector which includes delivery systems, 1,000 nuclear bombs, newer nuclear subs, and planes.

    NATO currently have the most troops and military on Russia's border since WW2.

    US and China are preparing to fight over the South China sea.

    Obama who won a Nobel peace prize for what he said about nuclear weapons, is currently going ahead with the development of mini nuclear bombs which can be used more readily than conventional nuclear weapons.

    The world has been in a downward spiral for a long time now.

    The world is always preparing for war. Tactical nuclear weapons have been part of arsenals since 1980's. Obama isn't doing anything new there.

    There are two main threats: Putin who is a lunatic, an opportunist and a man prepared to gamble on destabilizing neighbors and exploiting that with military force. He is a real threat and there is good reason for NATO strengthening the Eastern European borders. These countries do not want to return to some Putin version of the Iron curtain. He is capable of gambling that a local war would not become a wider conflict; given the idiocy of Trump's NATO comment he has been given encouragement.

    The South China Sea is a real issue. The loss of US warships could trigger something worse. Putin would encourage that too: gambling that the US would backdown and be weakened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Fleawuss wrote: »

    The South China Sea is a real issue. The loss of US warships could trigger something worse. Putin would encourage that too: gambling that the US would backdown and be weakened.

    Putin is sending several warships and submarines to the south China Sea to take part in long term wargames with China many actually believe that they will be setting up joint patrols of the area and to shore up the Chinese military presence,
    America is also sending B1 bombers to the area to carry out patrols ,
    With all that going on we have the other wackball In north Korea who might have a go knowing america is a little stretched military wise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    The world is always preparing for war. Tactical nuclear weapons have been part of arsenals since 1980's. Obama isn't doing anything new there.

    There are two main threats: Putin who is a lunatic, an opportunist and a man prepared to gamble on destabilizing neighbors and exploiting that with military force. He is a real threat and there is good reason for NATO strengthening the Eastern European borders. These countries do not want to return to some Putin version of the Iron curtain. He is capable of gambling that a local war would not become a wider conflict; given the idiocy of Trump's NATO comment he has been given encouragement.

    The South China Sea is a real issue. The loss of US warships could trigger something worse. Putin would encourage that too: gambling that the US would backdown and be weakened.

    Obama said he was going to work towards a nuclear free world, and got a Nobel peace prize for saying it, instead he is doing the opposite and is spending money on a new generation of nuclear bombs.
    This will lead to other nuclear nations spending money to do the same.

    NATO are not in a great position, look what they did with Libya. Absolutely destroyed the country.
    Trump only spouted what NATO members are suppose to be doing anyway when it comes to their military spending.
    It is the build up of troops by NATO on Russia's border which is leading to Russia moving troops to the borders of former Soviet states now in the EU.

    The main nuclear threat is Hilary Clinton who talked about obliterating Iran in 2008 if she became President, as in using nuclear weapons against Iran if they attacked Israel, Obama basically called her irresponsible.
    Then again in 2015 she talked about a war with Iran if the Iran deal was not kept to. She seems mad for war.

    China have reclaimed a reef at the contested Spratly islands in the South China Sea and built a large airstrip capable of taking bomber and fighter jets, Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam also have airstrips on reclaimed reefs there too.
    China are building a third airstrip there.
    The US believes it has a right to enter Chinese waters by undermining what China believes is it's territory.
    There was a recent ruling by an international tribunal in the Hague which really angered China, as it gave disputed waters which China said was a part of their sovereign marine territory to the Philippines, which China said they would not accept.
    That could lead to a confrontation.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 489 ✭✭AngryDiMaria


    Some amount of shoite talk going on in here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,193 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Some amount of shoite talk going on in here

    as opposed to your amazing contribution to the thread ? :):rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    World War probably not. The most likely scenario is we will see a war between United States and Russia or China that may drag in more countries.

    The more i watch the more i am convinced a clash is highly likely. I would not be surprised to see a war like this in two years or less?.

    Lets be honest here Trump or Hilary will be a terrible president. Both will make awful decisions that will lead to even more problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Watch this speech by Putin (its recent June 2016) he outlines things are worse now then ever and war could be highly likely soon. People in the west are ignorant to the fact hes under extreme pressure to respond to Nato build up near the Russian border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,295 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Interesting watch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Nostradamus predicted that our end will come from the middle east.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    That scenario video is actually horrifying if you watch it with earphones in and get obsorbed into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    As Marilyn Monroe said:

    I don't know how WW3 will be fought but I know WW4 will be fought with spears.


    I believe it was actually Jayne Mansfield that made that particular quote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    i have a huge interest in the military and military history and try to keep an eye out on what all world countries are doing and TBH everything i have seen play out so far is almost a repeat of the events before WW2 . the amount of spending on arms worldwide at the moment is massive it has surged in the last 3 years . i even saw yesterday that smaller countries like norway are buying masses of light tanks . the russian president made some valid points in a speech recently and its worrying .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    fryup wrote: »
    Could it happen in this modern age?? or have we learn't our lesson from mistakes of the past?

    If it does happen what are the likely scenario of it kicking off??

    the middle-east + another 9/11 ??

    At the moment there is an ongoing NATO military build up in the Baltics and Poland to counter the threat of a possible Russian invasion. The United States has developed a missile shield designed to shoot down Russian ICBMs. Tensions are at their highest since the end of the Cold War.

    Analysts say that Russian ground forces would easily overcome NATO forces in the Baltic States within a matter of days before NATO would be able to mobilize. Putin would have an easy victory at relatively little cost much like his recent victorys in Georgia and Crimea.

    In such a scenario the only way to try and force Putin to back off would be the threat of nuclear war.

    I don't think it would come to that but it would be possible.

    Another trigger of WW3 possibility is a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or war between China and Japan over islands in the South China Sea or a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭shaunr68


    Ted111 wrote: »
    I believe it was actually Jayne Mansfield that made that particular quote.

    Or Diana "Einstein" Dors: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    WW III has already bean fought and lost. As evident by the hordes invading Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭scooby77


    A Putin/Erdogan alliance, which seems a possibility could be worrying. Turkey is an often underestimated key NATO ally, for the the moment...but Erdogan liable to do anything...and with US refusing to extradite Gulen???
    If Putin felt Turkey would at least not support, if not veto, NATO action to defend the baltic region....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭White Ninja


    After every great war or revolution, people think humanity has learned it's lesson, then about every 80 years or so later, it happens all over again, WW2 ended in 1945, so around 2025 we're due one, this 80 year cycle has pretty consistent throughout history, no reason to suspect this time will be any different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    Such a wealth of foreign and military policy expertise on show here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    It depends on your view of "warfare"

    If you subscribe to the idea of "hybrid warfare" then we're about 10 years in to WW3 already.

    If you think warfare as declared inter-state armed combat then the chances of WW3 happening are remote even in the China Sea - the last thing China wants is to get in a shooting war with the US because the US might decide to pay of its debts and completely trash the Chinese economy (as well as their own).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^^^

    what do you mean by hybrid warfare ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    fryup wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    what do you mean by hybrid warfare ??

    Hybrid war – does it even exist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    shaunr68 wrote: »
    Or Diana "Einstein" Dors: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"


    "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
    Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
    Sneak home and pray you'll never know
    The hell where youth and laughter go.”


    Julie Andrews


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,730 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I think we're slowly heading back to another world war with the rise of global inequality and hatred, but I do like the term, financial warfare, so maybe we 're already experiencing ww3!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭rjpf1980


    scooby77 wrote: »
    A Putin/Erdogan alliance, which seems a possibility could be worrying. Turkey is an often underestimated key NATO ally, for the the moment...but Erdogan liable to do anything...and with US refusing to extradite Gulen???
    If Putin felt Turkey would at least not support, if not veto, NATO action to defend the baltic region....

    Erdogan and Putin hate each other's guts. Erdogan is an Islamist and Neo Ottoman. The last person Putin would forge an alliance with.


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