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Up to 85 civilians killed by mistake

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  • #212
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Firing off sarcastic and obtuse one line questions is not discussion.

    Would that not be for the mods to decide there is a report tool ?


  • #213
    Gringo180
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    Gatling wrote: »
    Odd we rarely hear about when others intentionally kill civilians in the region ,
    Mistakes happen in fast moving wars it's gas how if it's a civilian killed by the us people call war crime if other countries do it it's an accident

    Jaysus. Imagine if Russia committed this atrocity you'd be all over it. Your some hypocrite.


  • #214
    Gringo180
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    Western intervention and slaughter in the middle east = Isis's biggest recruiting tool


  • #215
    darkpagandeath
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Jaysus. Imagine if Russia committed this atrocity you'd be all over it. Your some hypocrite.

    I will be when it's Verified.


  • #216
    Gatling
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Your some hypocrite.

    try a little at least
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  • #217
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Nope just questioning the relevance to America.

    It's the one "war on terror" coalition, in case you haven't noticed. It's an analogous instance of the hypocrisy of said war on terror cheerleaders. In London, despite economic areas for instance being targeted (e.g. Canary Wharf), innocent people were killed. The attackers were duly described as "terrorists" and having "targeted" innocent civilians.

    In the current bombing attack by the US they say their target was ISIS leaders but, like the IRA, the US launched this attack on a civilian area in the full knowledge that civilians would suffer from this US bombing. Many civilians died. Will the people keen to label the IRA, for instance, be consistent and now describe the US as "terrorists" and having "targeted" civilians, or do we change the rules to absolve them of their crime?


  • #218
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I will be when it's Verified.

    Odd that America bad ,

    Don't mention anyone else must be a very one sided world we live in
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  • #219
    Gringo180
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    Gatling wrote: »
    try a little at least

    Your trying to downplay the incineration of 85 innocent civilians and even questioning whether it happened or not, when in fact if it was the Russians who committed this war crime you would be on here calling for Putins head.


  • #220
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Gatling wrote: »
    Odd that America bad ,

    Don't mention anyone else must be a very one sided world we live in

    Funny that America tops most international polls of who is the biggest threat to world peace.


  • #221
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's the one "war on terror" coalition, in case you haven't noticed. It's an analogous instance of the hypocrisy of said war on terror cheerleaders. In London, despite economic areas for instance being targeted (e.g. Canary Wharf), innocent people were killed. The attackers were duly described as "terrorists" and having "targeted" innocent civilians.

    In the current bombing attack by the US they say their target was ISIS leaders but, like the IRA, the US launched this attack on a civilian area in the full knowledge that civilians would suffer from this US bombing. Many civilians died. Will the people keen to label the IRA, for instance, be consistent and now describe the US as "terrorists" and having "targeted" civilians, or do we change the rules to absolve them of their crime?

    Nope, When its verified I condemn. The hospital one was shocking. The problem we face is you cannot guarantee no civilian death. IN the case of bombing a European capital city it's a bit different to an active war zone. I have no dog in the fight in relation to the armed struggle against the British.


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  • #222
    unseenfootage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭unseenfootage


    Verified report by vice news about the bombing of Mosul University.

    https://news.vice.com/article/the-us-led-coalition-bombed-the-university-of-mosul-for-being-an-islamic-state-headquarters


  • #223
    Gringo180
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Nope, When its verified I The hospital one was shocking. The problem we face is you cannot guarantee no civilian death. IN the case of bombing a European capital city it's a bit different to an active war zone. I have no dog in the fight in relation to the armed struggle against the British.

    These attacks in Syria by coalition forces are recruiting more suicide bombers to attack European cities. There not attacking us for nothing


  • #224
    unseenfootage
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    Keep up to date with US coalitions bombing campaign on Iraq and Syria.

    https://airwars.org/


  • #225
    unseenfootage
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    These attacks in Syria by coalition forces are recruiting more suicide bombers to attack European cities. There not attacking us for nothing

    Our leaders say that they're attacking us for our values, freedoms and our way of life.


  • #226
    Gatling
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Your trying to downplay the incineration of 85 innocent civilians and even questioning whether it happened or not, when in fact if it was the Russians who committed this war crime you would be on here calling for Putins head.

    Haven't downplayed it at all as i said from the start it's all unverified from various sources that America did it ,killed 56 then 85 then 200+ then it wasn't America it was the French ,
    All civilians apparently but with the exception of prisoners, hostages, even so seems who ever hit the building, convoy ,school nobody seems to know but yet declaring some sense of faux outrage ,
    Minus any facts as to who and why ,
    We do know this area is an Isis stronghold
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  • #227
    darkpagandeath
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Our leaders say that they're attacking us for our values, freedoms and our way of life.

    ISIS say that as well.


  • #228
    Gringo180
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Our leaders say that they're attacking us for our values, freedoms and our way of life.

    There absolutely wrong. Is it any coincidence that we seen the 1st suicide bombers in the UK after there invasion of Iraq? I think not. There attacking us because of our foreign policy in the middle east.


  • #229
    unseenfootage
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    ISIS say that as well.

    Is that verified tho? ;)

    Seriously.

    Can you verify it.


  • #230
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    ISIS say that as well.

    Osama Bin Laden always quoted former head of the CIA Michael Scheur when he was explaing why they were attacking western society. You should read it up and educate yourself.


  • #231
    darkpagandeath
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Is that verified tho? ;)

    Seriously.

    Can you verify it.

    Why we have not verified this happened. Cant you just take my word for it ?


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  • #232
    darkpagandeath
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Osama Bin Laden always quoted former head of the CIA Michael Scheur when he was explaing why they were attacking western society. You should read it up and educate yourself.

    When did that not alive man join ISIS ?


  • #233
    Gringo180
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    When did that not alive man join ISIS ?

    That sentence doesn't even make sense?


  • #234
    darkpagandeath
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    That sentence doesn't even make sense?

    Makes complete sense. He's dead, And not a member of ISIS. I will toss in for free Killed in Pakistan and not Syria.

    And for bonus points

    The x head of Al-Qaeda


  • #235
    unseenfootage
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    That sentence doesn't even make sense?

    He has some communication issues.
    Everything has to pivot around the original post. (in this thread ISIS and America)
    If not he will call you out on it.
    He doesn't cut any slack.
    Analogies are his pet peeve.


  • #236
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    unseenfootage wrote: »
    He has some communication issues.
    Everything has to pivot around the original post. (in this thread ISIS and America)
    If not he will call you out on it.
    He doesn't cut any slack.
    Analogies are his pet peeve.

    Is That not the entire point of a thread or we would end up taking about god knows what space wizards.


  • #237
    Gringo180
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Makes complete sense. He's dead, And not a member of ISIS. I will toss in for free Killed in Pakistan and not Syria.

    And for bonus points

    The x head of Al-Qaeda

    You totally missed the point in what i was saying. Al Qaeda where much more of a threat than the death cult ISIS could ever dream of being because they had the tools to carry out the biggest terror attack on U.S soil and where actually planned out by some very intelligent people. ISIS are a bunch of savages who want a worldwide calaphate, any muslim with half a brain wouldn't want anything got to do with them. Bin Laden always mentioned there attacks on the U.S was because of there foreign policy in the middle east. Not because of democracy and western values.


  • #238
    darkpagandeath
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    You totally missed the point in what i was saying. Al Qaeda where much more of a threat than the death cult ISIS could ever dream of being because they had the tools to carry out the biggest terror attack on U.S soil and where actually planned out by some very intelligent people. ISIS are a bunch of savages who want a worldwide calaphate, any muslim with half a brain wouldn't want anything got to do with them. Bin Laden always mentioned there attacks on the U.S was because of there foreign policy in the middle east. Not because of democracy and western values.

    Oh I must have miss read about massive casualties in France. Pesky MSM telling lies.


  • #239
    Gringo180
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Oh I must have miss read about massive casualties in France. Pesky MSM telling lies.

    Carried out by French nationals. ISIS members are mainly Iraqi, Syrian or Libyans. Spawned by US led intervention in the above countries.


  • #240
    darkpagandeath
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Carried out by French nationals. ISIS members are mainly Iraqi, Syrian or Libyans. Spawned by US led intervention in the above countries.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100419904&postcount=215

    ???


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  • #241
    Gringo180
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100419904&postcount=215

    ???

    There biggest recruiting tool in the countries that are been ravaged in the middle east.


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