Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

L'prof · 20-07-2016 05:23PM

extra gravy wrote: »

As Wenger once said, if you eat caviar every day it's difficult to return to sausages.

Never had caviar before, but I think I'd prefer sausages!

Deleted User wrote: »

Sure Higuain is probably a better player and we should have went for him back in 2013, but at this stage, Icardi could develop more as he has a bit of youth on his side and we could get better value out of him over the next three seasons and sell him at a profit if he goes well. Wages probably wouldnt be as high either.

Selling on players for profit should no longer be thought of as a positive. At this stage Arsenal should be holding on to all their best players!

itsjaybud · 20-07-2016 05:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not saying its going to happen but for me if we bought Icardi over Higuain it would make more sense in terms of longer term and sell on value.

Sure Higuain is probably a better player and we should have went for him back in 2013, but at this stage, Icardi could develop more as he has a bit of youth on his side and we could get better value out of him over the next three seasons and sell him at a profit if he goes well. Wages probably wouldnt be as high either.

This is so depressing to read!

20-07-2016 05:41PM

itsjaybud wrote: »

This is so depressing to read!

I think its better to have a player of sell on value after two seasons if you are forking out big money for him though tbh irregardless of the longevity of his term at Arsenal. If its short term its better that we are able to make a bit of money on him. His age is an advantage in this regard.

20-07-2016 05:51PM

L'prof wrote: »

Selling on players for profit should no longer be thought of as a positive. At this stage Arsenal should be holding on to all their best players!

I don't see the need to sell players on at a profit all the time but it's annoying seeing that we only ever seem to let players go at the end of contracts or when they retire lately.

KaiserGunner · 20-07-2016 05:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not saying its going to happen but for me if we bought Icardi over Higuain it would make more sense in terms of longer term and sell on value.

Sure Higuain is probably a better player and we should have went for him back in 2013, but at this stage, Icardi could develop more as he has a bit of youth on his side and we could get better value out of him over the next three seasons and sell him at a profit if he goes well. Wages probably wouldnt be as high either.

If this is Wengers last season (don't know yet though) than he should just buy the best striker that he can and look at it in a short term view, to go all out this season and try to win one last league title. It's an awful lot of money to pay, but Wenger deserves to treat himself for once and not worry about longevity and sell on value.

He could sign a new contract I suppose, I'm sure we will find out either way soon enough.

L'prof · 20-07-2016 06:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't see the need to sell players on at a profit all the time but it's annoying seeing that we only ever seem to let players go at the end of contracts or when they retire lately.

I genuinely have no issue with this whatsoever! Even when they were selling all their best players, they never seemed to be able to get crazy money for them!

speedboatchase · 20-07-2016 06:27PM

My worry is that Chelsea are not done yet in the striker market and can outbid us for anyone. They still haven't given up on Morata at this point so if the Icardi link is real, let's get it done quick before the options start to dry up.

gosplan · 20-07-2016 06:49PM

itsjaybud wrote: »

This is so depressing to read!

It's obvious though.

Long term Higuain will cost us 80 million from our accumulated transfer kitty.

Icardi would cost nothing if he was sold on.

Being happy with this is all provided we spend the rest on players.

I'd still personally go Higuain but if someone's arguing that Icardi allows us to fill the gap spend the 80 million on transfers over the net few years, I don't think they're bang out of line.

Clubs have to consider this. Now way would Pogba get 100 million if he was 29.

Quazzie · 20-07-2016 08:36PM

L'prof wrote: »

I genuinely have no issue with this whatsoever! Even when they were selling all their best players, they never seemed to be able to get crazy money for them!

Who is that to the right in your sig?

Hyzepher · 20-07-2016 08:50PM

What's the situation with Aubameyang? I havent heard anything about a potential move out of BVB. With the money quoted for Higuain I'd go for Aubameyang first.

L'prof · 20-07-2016 09:06PM

Quazzie wrote: »

Who is that to the right in your sig?

Sanchez?

Bobby Baccala · 20-07-2016 09:07PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

What's the situation with Aubameyang? I havent heard anything about a potential move out of BVB. With the money quoted for Higuain I'd go for Aubameyang first.

Aubameyang would probably cost us the same, has 4 years left on his contract and seems happy at Dortmund.

20-07-2016 09:08PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

My worry is that Chelsea are not done yet in the striker market and can outbid us for anyone. They still haven't given up on Morata at this point so if the Icardi link is real, let's get it done quick before the options start to dry up.

Costa is making a bit of noise to leave too.

speedboatchase · 20-07-2016 09:10PM

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Aubameyang would probably cost us the same, has 4 years left on his contract and seems happy at Dortmund.

I'd say Aubameyang would cost about €25-30m more than Icardi. But can't see Dortmund selling him in the same window they sell Hummels and Mkhitaryan.

20-07-2016 09:11PM

L'prof wrote: »

Selling on players for profit should no longer be thought of as a positive. At this stage Arsenal should be holding on to all their best players!

All agents are greedy though. If enough noise is made then a club will always sell

Bobby Baccala · 20-07-2016 09:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Costa is making a bit of noise to leave too.

I wouldn't say no to Costa at Arsenal, we need a player everyone hates that isn't Wilshere. People seem to forget how good a striker he actually is too, played a major part in 2 title wins in the past 3 seasons.

Gringo180 · 20-07-2016 09:29PM

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

I wouldn't say no to Costa at Arsenal, we need a player everyone hates that isn't Wilshere. People seem to forget how good a striker he actually is too, played a major part in 2 title wins in the past 3 seasons.

Id burn me jersey if I seen that scumbag in it.

Bobby Baccala · 20-07-2016 09:54PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Id burn me jersey if I seen that scumbag in it.

That's another way of looking at it :pac:

wandatowell · 20-07-2016 10:01PM

Pogba pretty much a done deal to Utd.

mansize · 20-07-2016 10:02PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Id burn me jersey if I seen that scumbag in it.

I'd say they would give him a new one 😜

Alfred Borden · 20-07-2016 10:03PM

wandatowell wrote: »

Pogba pretty much a done deal to Utd.

Ramsey is miles ahead and cost 1/20th of what Pogba will. Please let it go through

Gringo180 · 20-07-2016 10:40PM

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Ramsey is miles ahead and cost 1/20th of what Pogba will. Please let it go through

He is when he plays for Wales but hasnt really shown his best for us in a couple of seasons. He was bang average last season, cant fault his work ethic but he wasnt up to it quality wise.

j14 · 20-07-2016 11:30PM

Supposedly Mario Gomez is not going back on loan to Besiktas. He's 31 now but would he be worth a punt?
I'd still prefer a pacy striker but it seems like we are dragging our heels as usual.

20-07-2016 11:31PM

Ramsey isn't great at controlling the game in a possession system, hes strong in broken play and counter attacks, hence looking better for Wales than Arsenal. I'd take all International Football with a pinch of salt, most teams they're playing against are half filled with league 1 level players.

Ramsey Xhaka
Could work very well though, Xhaka seems to have more of a controlling passing game.

Lots of foreign press reporting Icardi. I'd be happy with that, good goal record and age profile.

Gringo180 · 20-07-2016 11:35PM

AdamD wrote: »

Ramsey isn't great at controlling the game in a possession system, hes strong in broken play and counter attacks, hence looking better for Wales than Arsenal. I'd take all International Football with a pinch of salt, most teams they're playing against are half filled with league 1 level players.

Ramsey Xhaka
Could work very well though, Xhaka seems to have more of a controlling passing game.

Good analysis and I agree with that. He could easily stop with the silly flicks and going for the killer pass all the time and just try and retain the ball and play the simple pass.

Alfred Borden · 20-07-2016 11:48PM

AdamD wrote: »

Lots of foreign press reporting Icardi. I'd be happy with that, good goal record and age profile.

https://twitter.com/AFCPressWatch/status/755896008907845632

emergingstar · 21-07-2016 07:10AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Ramsey is miles ahead and cost 1/20th of what Pogba will. Please let it go through

He is when he plays for Wales but hasnt really shown his best for us in a couple of seasons. He was bang average last season, cant fault his work ethic but he wasnt up to it quality wise.

Ramsey works in the spaces for Wales, that Ozil works in for Arsenal

It's why I said yesterday Wengers biggest job will be finding a system or formation that can get the best of both of them

speedboatchase · 21-07-2016 08:40AM

Alfred Borden wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AFCPressWatch/status/755896008907845632

Seeing quotes from the interview and it sounds pretty definitive. What are we up to at all at all at all?

ronjo · 21-07-2016 08:57AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Seeing quotes from the interview and it sounds pretty definitive. What are we up to at all at all at all?

Dont have access to twitter at work.
What does it say?

wawaman · 21-07-2016 08:59AM

ronjo wrote: »

Dont have access to twitter at work.
What does it say?

He is staying put. In other news Mario Gomez is availible !!!

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