10 police officers shot in Baton Rouge, Louisanna

RasTa · 17-07-2016 04:47PM

Odds on AR-15 used?

Samaris · 17-07-2016 04:48PM

skywanderer wrote: »

Black Lives Matter & the liberal SJW sympathisers are clearly responsible for this. Donald J. Trump will cruise into the White House if this sort of thing starts happening more often.

Or just maybe the people doing the bloody -shooting- are responsible.

BoJack Horseman · 17-07-2016 04:51PM

RasTa wrote: »

Odds on AR-15 used?

What would it matter?

RasTa · 17-07-2016 04:53PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

What would it matter?

Might make them ban it finally, but we all know it's never going to happen.

Sand · 17-07-2016 04:57PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

What would it matter?

It would give people an opportunity to demonstrate what they know about the issue by demanding a ban on assault rifles?

tomofson · 17-07-2016 04:57PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Because criminals breaking the law by murdering, will now stop because they're breaking another one :rolleyes:

Why do people insist this? Why do they fight tooth and nail against gun rights then top it off with 'less people will die'.

First off, let's just put gun violence into perspective.
In 2014, Eleven Thousand were killed by guns.
In a country of 320 million, and with more guns than people.

It's not that much tbh.
Let's look at other causes of death that year:

Heart disease killed 611 thousand. #BanHighCapacityHeartAttacks :rolleyes:
Cancer killed 584 thousand. #BanAssaultTumors...
Chronic lower respiratory diseases killed 150 thousand.
Accidents killed 130 thousand.
Stroke killed 128 thousand.
Alzheimer's disease killed 84 thousand.
Diabetes killed 75 thousand.
Influenza and Pneumonia killed 57 thousand.
Kidney diseases killed 47 thousand.
Suicides topped 41 thousand.
Road fatalities were 36 thousand.

Gun deaths account for **** all in comparison but ooooooooh BOY are they a handy scapegoat/political points scoring platform...

Remove guns from law abiding people in that mad house across the water, and I absolutely guarantee gun deaths will go up...
Mass shootings are but a drop in the ocean of general gun death causes.

Now if it were down to me, I'd make bullets reeeeealy bloody expensive. Like five hundred dollars each. That way you really really need a good excuse to empty a magazine..

Lastly, things are happening lately that prove a weapon is anything but important or necessary to kill many. Something I've always believed too, tbh.

With all them deaths why do people within american politics become so fixated on the very few who have been killed in the last couple of years by "islamic extremism"

RobertKK · 17-07-2016 04:58PM

Hard being a police officer in the US seeing your colleagues being killed and injured.

There can be no excuse over what happened to some black people, or any excuse when it comes to shooting police officers.
Two wrongs never made anything right.

BoJack Horseman · 17-07-2016 05:01PM

Sand wrote: »

It would give people an opportunity to demonstrate what they know about the issue by demanding a ban on assault rifles?

Assault rifles are banned aren't they?

davycc · 17-07-2016 05:01PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A gun man kills armed police men in two seperate incidents. Proof as ever that guns don't prevent gun deaths. Less guns prevents gun deaths.

disagree with you there sorry it factually reduces all crime incl violent

http://defendandcarry.com/harvard-study-shocks-banning-firearms-increases-crime-not-just-in-u-s/

“Down in Australia, gun murders increased by about 19 percent and armed robberies increased by about 69 percent after a gun ban was instituted. 13 The city of Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the United States. So has this reduced crime? The murder rate in Chicago was about 17 percent higher in 2012 than it was in 2011, and Chicago is now considered to be “the deadliest global city,” 14 After the city of Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring every home to have a gun, the crime rate dropped by more than 50 percent over the course of the next 23 years and there was an 89 percent decline in burglaries.”
“Despite the very strict ban on guns in the UK, the overall rate of violent crime in the UK is about 4 times higher than it is in the United States. 7 In one recent year, there were 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people in the UK. 8In the United States, there were only 466 violent crimes per 100,000 people during that same year. The UK has approximately 125 percent more rape victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does. The UK has approximately 133 percent more assault victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does. UK has the fourth highest burglary rate in the EU. The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.”

unseenfootage · 17-07-2016 05:02PM

BunkMoreland wrote: »

If it's not Muslims it's the blacks.

Most Mass shootings in the USA are by and large perpetrated by so called loony white boys.
Don't let facts get in your way tho....

Sand · 17-07-2016 05:03PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Assault rifles are banned aren't they?

Thats the point.

vicwatson · 17-07-2016 05:05PM

BBC saying two shot

davycc · 17-07-2016 05:06PM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

While there is a huge amount of gun crime in the US, really, proportionally it's not as bad as people make out. The problem is you've an ever so slightly higher proportion of nutjobs, heavily armed an a population over 2/3rds the size of Europe and a very, very active media.

true

The worst top three school shootings occurred in Western Europe; in Erfurt (Germany), Dunblane (Scotland) and Winnenden (Germany). Columbine was number four.
““A study by the Media Research Center concluded media coverage of firearms is overwhelmingly biased. In a recent period, “television networks collectively aired 514 anti-gun stories, to a mere 46 that were pro-firearm, a ratio of more than 11-to-1 against firearms.””

“Almost every mass shooting that has occurred in the United States since 1950 has taken place in a state with strict gun control laws. With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are banned from carrying guns.

The United States is Number 1 in the world in gun ownership, and yet it is only 28th in the world in gun murders per 100,000 people. Overall, guns in the United States are used 80 times more often to prevent crime than they are to take lives.”

vicwatson · 17-07-2016 05:07PM

Now BBC twitting at least 4 shot dead

vicwatson · 17-07-2016 05:08PM

Where's the 10 dead figure from?

BorneTobyWilde · 17-07-2016 05:11PM

3 killed 4 more shot still alive.

suicide_circus · 17-07-2016 05:13PM

davycc wrote: »

true

The worst top three school shootings occurred in Western Europe; in Erfurt (Germany), Dunblane (Scotland) and Winnenden (Germany). Columbine was number four.
““A study by the Media Research Center concluded media coverage of firearms is overwhelmingly biased. In a recent period, “television networks collectively aired 514 anti-gun stories, to a mere 46 that were pro-firearm, a ratio of more than 11-to-1 against firearms.””

“Almost every mass shooting that has occurred in the United States since 1950 has taken place in a state with strict gun control laws. With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are banned from carrying guns.

The United States is Number 1 in the world in gun ownership, and yet it is only 28th in the world in gun murders per 100,000 people. Overall, guns in the United States are used 80 times more often to prevent crime than they are to take lives.”

Jesus we should legalise universal gun ownership here quick!

Winterlong · 17-07-2016 05:14PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Where's the 10 dead figure from?

OP heard it on the police scanner. Info was very sketchy at the start....

Wibbs · 17-07-2016 05:15PM

RasTa wrote: »

Odds on AR-15 used?

So? I'd much rather be hit with a military round from an AR 15 than a hunting round from a sport semi automatic rifle.

Meh America is getting worse in some ways, but no need to go full retard on the hysteria either. The world is actually safer than it was 20 or 30 years ago. In Europe anyway. It's just these days with social media and rolling news egging this shíte on when it does happen it feels more real and it also seems people are much more prone to hysterics of panic these days too. Until the next Facebook feed takes their hysteria attention anyway. EG without going to google, name the dead kid washed up on a Greek beach. You know, the one that had all the Facebook, twitter feels, handwringing and crocodile tears going on. Can you name him? The western world seems to have the attention span and the emotional range of 12 year old girls.

Anyway there'll be another "horror" along to distract us in due course. Get those facebook flag overlays ready…

PS it really is beyond a pain in the sphincter we can't have pics in AH. But the link below is a graph of terror attacks in Europe over the last few decades. We're safer today. Yep.

davycc · 17-07-2016 05:16PM

RasTa wrote: »

Odds on AR-15 used?

well it is the states best selling semi-auto platform , home defense and hunting rifle so your probably correct in your guess.:)
it does not meet any of the BS 'assault rifle definition' apart from it being black and scary looking to some sheeple of the clinton demo-tard variety :rolleyes:

RasTa · 17-07-2016 05:16PM

Guns save lives! defendandcarry.com says so.

I look at their neighbors

According to a StatsCan report from 2012 – the most recent year available – the U.S. suffered a total of 8,813 murders involving the use of firearms that year. Canada, in the same year, recorded just 172 firearms-related homicides.

davycc · 17-07-2016 05:17PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Now BBC twitting at least 4 shot dead

feck :mad:

My name is URL · 17-07-2016 05:19PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Where's the 10 dead figure from?

Was never 10 dead. 10 shot is what I heard initially when starting the thread.

Still no concrete figures released either way

StinkyMunkey · 17-07-2016 05:20PM

At what point does it become unacceptable, how bad does it have to get before Americans realise their love affair with guns will only lead to more and more pointless deaths.

While people are going around with military grade weapons killing more and more, advocates of these weapons are arguing about silly definitions, splitting hairs and trying to somehow justify what to anyone with an ouch of common sense why the general public need assault rifles or guns in general (btw I could care less about your definition of an assault rifle).

Seems the usual propanganda by the gun nuts and NRA won't work with these new gun deaths. Everyone had a gun, what next, everyone needs bigger guns.

I see the new black panthers are now saying they will be openly carrying arms at protests from here on out, what could go wrong -.-

Seems to me America is reaching a crescendo in regards to guns, guns crimes and gun deaths, when will it reach a point before people put the lives of others before their love affair with their guns.

I know the world has it's faults, I know there is action needed on countless topics. I know other countries have gun crime, but we are not talking about other countries. The usual defence of well Switzerland has guns isn't going to solve Americas gun problems.

lawlolawl · 17-07-2016 05:21PM

RasTa wrote: »

Guns save lives! defendandcarry.com says so.

I look at their neighbors

The US has 10 times the population of Canada.

niallo27 · 17-07-2016 05:21PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Jesus we should legalise universal gun ownership here quick!

It would stop ***** with 80+ convictions for burglaries from robbing your house anyway.

davycc · 17-07-2016 05:22PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Where's the 10 dead figure from?

hopefully its nowhere near that figure

skywanderer · 17-07-2016 05:24PM

davycc wrote: »

hopefully its nowhere near that figure

I think it was 10 shot, not all fatally thankfully.

suicide_circus · 17-07-2016 05:25PM

niallo27 wrote: »

It would stop ***** with 80+ convictions for burglarys from robbing your house anyway.

I don't think it would actually

niallo27 · 17-07-2016 05:27PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I don't think it would actually

They don't give a **** here. Maybe if they thought they might get blown away it might stop them.

10 police officers shot in Baton Rouge, Louisanna

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