Toilet Training

sillysocks · 02-07-2016 02:10PM #1

Ok so this may be a stupid question! Just starting to try train my boy today, I trained my girl a few years ago and after two accidents the first morning she just 'got it' and never had accidents after that.
With her I used to bring her to the toilet maybe every half an hour to start with and stretched it out a bit as the days went on until I just relied on her to tell me.

So I started off like that with my son this morning and all was going well. Now in the last two/three hours since he started to drink more as the day went on he's having accidents every few minutes. He'll go and put a wee in the toilet when I bring him and then a few minutes later I'll notice his underpants are wet. Now it might not be a huge amount as it's only the pants that are wet rather than 'puddles' but I'm wondering if this is normal or how to encourage him to hold it for the toilet. It's like as if he's just having small wees every so often rather than just letting it all out in one go. Have a star chart and haven't been giving out to him, but I'm wondering if this is how the first day of toilet training should go ?! Think we're onto about pair 9 of underpants in the last 5 or 6 hours

Sligo1 · 02-07-2016 04:00PM

sillysocks wrote: »

Ok so this may be a stupid question! Just starting to try train my boy today, I trained my girl a few years ago and after two accidents the first morning she just 'got it' and never had accidents after that.
With her I used to bring her to the toilet maybe every half an hour to start with and stretched it out a bit as the days went on until I just relied on her to tell me.

So I started off like that with my son this morning and all was going well. Now in the last two/three hours since he started to drink more as the day went on he's having accidents every few minutes. He'll go and put a wee in the toilet when I bring him and then a few minutes later I'll notice his underpants are wet. Now it might not be a huge amount as it's only the pants that are wet rather than 'puddles' but I'm wondering if this is normal or how to encourage him to hold it for the toilet. It's like as if he's just having small wees every so often rather than just letting it all out in one go. Have a star chart and haven't been giving out to him, but I'm wondering if this is how the first day of toilet training should go ?! Think we're onto about pair 9 of underpants in the last 5 or 6 hours

Hi sillysocks, we went through about 20 pairs of undies with my boy the first day of that's any consolation to you. I ended up just taking the pants off and letting him run around in the nip

. The second day he had no accidents, the third day he had a couple and from then on he had none. Now the poo... Well that was a different story altogether... My girl on the other hand pretty much trained herself in a day or 2 and is completely dry through the night at 2 years and 3 months (bar waking us to go!).

Every time he wet himself (or the floor) I would just tell him "that's ok T, but the next time we need to do it in the potty". After the first day I pretty much said the same and never told him off, but was just slightly firmer. Saying big boys use the potty etc. And youre a big not aren't you so you can't be wetting your underpants etc.

Sounds like you're having a very very normal first day if I'm honest. It will most likely be better on the second and third day. Good luck

sillysocks · 02-07-2016 04:12PM

Great! Thanks for the reassurance

I just wasn't sure if this was 'normal' or not. I've since discovered that I don't think he was fully emptying his bladder each time, I've brought a book in and when he's on the toilet when I'm reading it he does way more and accidents have been way less since. Will cross my fingers for that gradual improvement every day!

sillysocks · 03-07-2016 06:35PM

Thanks again for the reassurance Sligo. A much more successful day today, Day 2! Had one accident so compared with I think it was 13 pairs of pants yesterday it was a big success. And we had a number 2 in the toilet as well.

One more question if anyone can help..... I've just been bringing him to the toilet regularly, maybe every 30/40 minutes to see if he needs to go. I'm wondering how long it took before other children would actually ask to go when they needed to?

Sligo1 · 03-07-2016 07:00PM

sillysocks wrote: »

Thanks again for the reassurance Sligo. A much more successful day today, Day 2! Had one accident so compared with I think it was 13 pairs of pants yesterday it was a big success. And we had a number 2 in the toilet as well.

One more question if anyone can help..... I've just been bringing him to the toilet regularly, maybe every 30/40 minutes to see if he needs to go. I'm wondering how long it took before other children would actually ask to go when they needed to?

Delighted things are going better today! I thought they probably would. Well I stayed around the house for the first 3 days and then ventured out. I made sure he went before we left and I'd try him once during the time we were out (if we were out for say 2-3 hours). I think I started asking him every couple of hours after that if he needed to go. Can't remember when he started to tell me.

My girl is trained this last month and I never have to ask her. She started telling game after day 2. I found if I left my boy for long he would dribble the tiniest bit on his underpants pants before he'd actually ask to go. I think he's just lazy tho! Lol

Cunning Stunt · 06-07-2016 01:18PM

Am following this thread! Will be doing the toilet training in two weeks time, when we have time off. Am actually excited about it LOL - judging from this thread I bet that will change by the end of day 1!

sillysocks · 06-07-2016 01:35PM

Well just an update for you so.... 13 accidents day one (!!) Just one on day two and none the last three days. So delighted with him. Really wasn't sure how it'd go after day 1 but he's really taken to it. He uses a normal toilet with no insert etc so even when we go places he'll use the toilet no problem. I wasn't relying on him to tell me when he needs to go-bringing him every hour or hour and a half to try (or whenever I see him holding himself and squirming!) but today had further progress when he came and told me he needed to go.

Good progress all round!! Not that I don't sweat anytime we're out of the house that he's going to let rip all over the floor

Cunning Stunt · 06-07-2016 04:53PM

Thx for the update! What about in the night? Do you use a nappy?

sillysocks · 06-07-2016 05:10PM

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

Thx for the update! What about in the night? Do you use a nappy?

Yep! Not even attempting that yet. Kind of hoping it'll just happen by itself. He had a fairly big wee when he got up this morning so must have been holding some in, but the pull up was wet too so not there yet.
Was going to put nappies on when I saw the price of pull ups, and because I'd almost a full pack of nappies left, but decided to suck it up because I didn't want to be confusing him by using any nappies once we started. The pull ups are different for him because the pull on and have a picture so they're not exactly the same as nappies to him. Reckoned cause we would only use one a day the price wasn't too bad. Don't know how people afford to use them full time as a happy substitute!

Sligo1 · 06-07-2016 05:51PM

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

Thx for the update! What about in the night? Do you use a nappy?

We still have to use a pampers baby dry 6+ on our 3.5yo who has been trained a year ago! And it's still completely soaked in the morning (sometimes even wet through!).

Cunning Stunt · 06-07-2016 07:21PM

Thanks for the info

If we can get him to stay dry / clean during the day, and used pull ups at night, I'd be happy enough with that!

Mink · 12-07-2016 12:49PM

Fair play Sillysocks!

Re the nighttime, that really just happens by itself for the most part. Many kids I've heard of toilet trained very easily but still need pull up at night for a year or two after.

Then my son was a lot more difficult to toilet train but he was dry at night about a wk or 2 after we trained him for wee's.

Now he woke then every night to go for a wee, sometimes a few times but it trickled down to once. This went on for 5-6 mths. Now he doesn't get up at all in the 11/12hrs, his bladder can handle it. We did nothing to influence it either way, didn't change fluids or times of fluids, he just adjusted himself.

Sligo1 wrote: »

I found if I left my boy for long he would dribble the tiniest bit on his underpants pants before he'd actually ask to go. I think he's just lazy tho! Lol

My lad was the exact same for months after training him. He'd just hold it and hold it and then it would suddenly dawn on him that he was bursting. Still happens the odd odd day but generally he is on top of it.

Cunning Stunt · 15-07-2016 07:47PM

We will be entering the unfamiliar territory of toilet training tomorrow - god help us!

...On a lighter note, the little boxer shorts I got him are so cute!!:D

sillysocks · 15-07-2016 08:02PM

Good luck!! Be prepared for a lot of washing day 1

I ended day 1 on a count of 13 underpants in the wash! But since then (two weeks ago tomorrow) there was one accident on day 2 and zero since, so don't get disheartened if it seems a lost cause at first. My little fella is dry most nights as well(although I still use the pull up and hadn't actually tried to night time train him yet).

tickingclock · 15-07-2016 11:58PM

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

We will be entering the unfamiliar territory of toilet training tomorrow - god help us!

...On a lighter note, the little boxer shorts I got him are so cute!!:D

I think I'll do it at the end of August after holidays. I'm dreading it. Hope it goes well for you

Cunning Stunt · 16-07-2016 03:38PM

Well hes been up since 6am and by noon we only had two accidents, so thought we were flying - but after his nap that has now increased to 5 accidents (including one poop) and only 2 successful goes on the loo! Twice i had him sitting on the loo with no success, only to have him pee or poop himself 5 mins after getting off of it! He doesnt seem to mind wetting himself as much as i imagined he would, so this could take a long time! We used pullups for his nap which he really protested against. He loves his new big boy boxers, which i take as a good sign, so we compromised with pullups on and big boy boxers over them. Will do the same at bedtime!

Cunning Stunt · 16-07-2016 03:40PM

Can someone explain to me, are we supposed to be just putting him on the loo to see if he will go, or should we be waiting for him to come to us?

Cunning Stunt · 16-07-2016 03:40PM

Can someone explain to me, are we supposed to be just putting him on the loo to see if he will go, or should we be waiting for him to come to us?

sillysocks · 16-07-2016 03:54PM

I think there's different schools of thought on it but when I was training my two I brought them to the toilet very regularly (as in every 20/30 mins) on the first day and then gradually reduced how often I brought them as the days went on. After the first day or two my little fella developed a little dance that told me he needed to go

I was worried he didn't seem to care when he got wet the first day (and normally he hates even a spec of dirt on his hands etc!) but he was fine after so don't let that worry you.

Cunning Stunt · 16-07-2016 06:05PM

Thanks for the response. Yeah, I asked him so often today if he needed to go to the toilet, but the answer was always 'no' - and then he might pee himself two minutes later! So we put him on at random times as well, but that was really hit and miss. We learn as we go, I suppose!
Well he's in bed now, and I just counted - 7 changes of undies in all. Tomorrow might be better.
Never thought I'd be writing about things like this on the internet, LOL! Oh how having babies changes us!!:D

yellow hen · 16-07-2016 08:18PM

I'm reading this with avid interest as I plan on starting it soon with my little lad. I've purposely left it late as he has a speech delay but I'm still not convinced he's ready. Really hoping he proves me wrong..

sillysocks · 16-07-2016 09:53PM

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

Thanks for the response. Yeah, I asked him so often today if he needed to go to the toilet, but the answer was always 'no' - and then he might pee himself two minutes later! So we put him on at random times as well, but that was really hit and miss. We learn as we go, I suppose!
Well he's in bed now, and I just counted - 7 changes of undies in all. Tomorrow might be better.
Never thought I'd be writing about things like this on the internet, LOL! Oh how having babies changes us!!:D

Well I can beat that with my 13 changes the first day

after 2 I got wise and didn't put trousers on over the pants for the rest of the day!
My fella didn't tell us at all he needed to go for the first week, he'd say no too if I asked so I just brought him whenever I thought he needed to or had drank a lot.
Best of luck tomorrow!

Cunning Stunt · 17-07-2016 10:37AM

Day 2 and we had 3 accidents and one successful wee so far. Hes gone for a nap with pullups on now. Had him on the loo soo many times and waited a good while each time but he doesnt seem to be able to 'let go' when hes on it. Pee'd himself as soon as he was off it though...
It seems like its going worse than day 1! Am trying not to get disheartened - Hes 2 yrs 7 mnths so he should be ready, i would think. Will just keep soldiering on anyway and see how it goes!

kandr10 · 17-07-2016 12:52PM

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

Day 2 and we had 3 accidents and one successful wee so far. Hes gone for a nap with pullups on now. Had him on the loo soo many times and waited a good while each time but he doesnt seem to be able to 'let go' when hes on it. Pee'd himself as soon as he was off it though...
It seems like its going worse than day 1! Am trying not to get disheartened - Hes 2 yrs 7 mnths so he should be ready, i would think. Will just keep soldiering on anyway and see how it goes!

Hi I think I'm having a similar experience to you. First day I tried getting her on the potty every half hour but it just melted both our heads and we were both cranky and tired by the end of the day. Day two I asked her if she needed to go and more times than not she'd say no and have an accident a few mins later. She did have some wees and a poo in the potty too though. After that I kinda just ask her every so often and she has the odd accident but I'm trying to focus on successes. Being a girl I just put her in a dress with no undies which is handy. I'm finding it hard to keep up the momentum though. I'm wondering when it'll be safe to venture out without putting a pull-up on? It looks like it'll be 3 weeks+ training rather than 3 days lol!

Millem · 17-07-2016 02:59PM

I did an attempt on Friday. My guy must of pulled down pants when he started weeing and peed in a big puddle on patio in garden!! Was delighted with himself. The next wee he just did on his pants and told me after! He point blank is refusing to go on potty. He says he will sit on the toilet but won't bend himself to sit!anyway I admitted defeat as I just felt rotten and put nappy back on.
Need to buy the ladder and toilet seat but am not well at the mo. I am hoping to try again at the end of this week!
Time is ticking......monte in September

Judge Trudy · 17-07-2016 08:45PM

Millem wrote: »

I did an attempt on Friday. My guy must of pulled down pants when he started weeing and peed in a big puddle on patio in garden!! Was delighted with himself. The next wee he just did on his pants and told me after! He point blank is refusing to go on potty. He says he will sit on the toilet but won't bend himself to sit!anyway I admitted defeat as I just felt rotten and put nappy back on.
Need to buy the ladder and toilet seat but am not well at the mo. I am hoping to try again at the end of this week!
Time is ticking......monte in September

I tried toilet training my 2 yr 8 month child at Easter and it was a disaster. It was mostly my fault due to lack of prep and pregnancy exhaustion. Then during the heatwave in May, my daughter just hated having the nappy on and everything just clicked into place with her. She basically self trained. Now she is doing fantastic and barely has any accidents. I kept reading the Princess Polly books in between Easter and May too. I think when they're ready, it'll just click for them.

Sapphire · 17-07-2016 11:23PM

I did the three day method and it worked with my boy. I never used pullups or nappies, just into pants both day and night and it worked.

Also can highly recommend Pirates in Underpants book along with the others in the Underpants series. Toddlers love them.

Cunning Stunt · 18-07-2016 07:12AM

Our guy starts playschool in sept aswell, so am trying to get him trained beforehand. These two weeks we have holidays so its perfect for it, if he would just comply LOL!
Day 3 here - wees are being done on toilet more often but poo is a different matter altogether. He will wait and wait until he gets a minute alone, then he will soil himself.
I have to say he still doesnt like being put on the loo, esoecially if he has just woken up - so I hope that will get easier too...

What is the 3 day method?

kknitter · 18-07-2016 10:26AM

With my 2 and half year old boy, tried this weekend and he didn't want to sit on his potty. After few attempts got him sitting, but for him it was a game and he laughed all 2 mins sitting on it. Tried every 15 mins. After leaving potty, he did number 1 on floors but nothing in potty for whole day. Everytime outside.
Not sure whether he is not ready or he is ready and just doesnt want to use it.

Any suggestions please.

Cunning Stunt · 18-07-2016 05:13PM

From what i read online (.because i was having the same experience), its a common occurance during potty training for them to pee or poop just after getting off the toiley/potty, because they havnt learned to relax the muscles and 'let go' on the potty yet.

Well day 3 results are in - only 2 accidents all day from 6am to 7pm! Hes great for weeing on the loo now - poos still evading us though!

sillysocks · 18-07-2016 07:28PM

Great stuff, it's so nice when you start to see progress. I did realise on day 1 that he wasn't leaving all the wee out in one go on the toilet and then two mins later he'd wet himself again with another dribble, never just letting it all out. So I started reading short books while he was sitting on the toilet and then he'd be more relaxed and would let the full wee out which definitely helped with less accidents then!

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