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Euro 2016 - Group E - Belgium vs Ireland, 2 pm, RTE & ITV

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  • #842
    nehe milner skudder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭nehe milner skudder


    belgian fans were amazing today.vocal. vibrant.vivacious.victorious


  • #843
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Chrissybhoy wrote: »
    Opened up after first goal you mean. They caught us from a corner that wasn't opening up

    From a high foot that should have been a penalty too.


  • #844
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    baldbear wrote: »
    I Dont think that's correct. Surely if our goal difference is worse than all the other 3rd place team then we are out BUT we have to beat Italy 1st.

    That's assuming all the other 3rd place teams finish on 4pts which they won't.


  • #845
    edgecutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    topmanamillion wrote: »
    The Fields of Athenry singing is a real double edged sword.

    I get that people have spent fortunes to go there and they are supporting their side but then it's an acceptance of mediocrity too.

    John Delaney is there with a head like a bear on him after being on the piss last night and the man is butchering the game here.

    The Croatians are in a similar situation with their FA and have made it very clear they want the fcukers gone.
    I'm not saying our fans should start throwing fire works but I'd like to see some anger so maybe in 4 years when we have Euro games in Ireland we can put it up to sides like Belgium!

    We need a clear out at the FAI. We were lucky to qualify and the talent is drying up in this country. We still haven't set up foundations to help build youngsters.


  • #846
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    PeterTheEighth wrote: »
    The singing just annoys me, it's not being great fans, it's "better living through denial".

    They have spent a couple of grand to go over to a soccer tournament to support their team for two weeks. They have taken annual leave and want to enjoy their time there. They are passionate supporters and clearly aere well aware what is going on, but if they have the ability to keep their spirits up and not get on the players backs let them at it. Essentially, its just a game and you have to respect them if they want to enjoy their time there after investing so much in it.


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  • #847
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bret Hart wrote: »
    It's over George,stop deluding yourself and insulting the intelligence of the Irish fans.

    Beat Italy and we will go through.

    Obviously that's highly unlikely but there's still faintest of hope


  • #848
    Irish_rat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    It's all starts at home, we need more people going to matches and the FAI need restructuring. Its as simple as that.

    Alot of armchair fans on here watching foreign leagues week in, week out and yet won't make the trip to their local team.

    Says it all


  • #849
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,197 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Depressing. We were always perfect foil for Belgium in that we'd stand off them and allow them to control the game.


  • #850
    Green Fella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭Green Fella


    awec wrote: »
    I think all the fans ask for is effort and ambition. Today Ireland capitulated.

    The tactics were negative. You have to have a go, there's no point coming playing for draws. You could play for another 90 minutes and Ireland still wouldn't score.

    We have no ambition under O'Neill, it really is sad to see

    That McGregor parody flag "We're not here to takeover, we're just here to take part"

    Sums up the situation


  • #851
    PeterTheEighth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    I always thought it was very unfair to drag the players in front of the mic straight after running for 90 minutes and expecting them to give the perfect answers.


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  • #852
    edgecutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    Green Fella wrote: »
    I agree Micheal O Neill is a better manager. Northern Ireland are better set up and a better team. Martin really is not up to it, far to negative stubborn and set in his ways. Would never have made the changes and attacking display NIreland did against Ukraine.

    Ukraine are not Belgium, but O'Neill needs to have a go on Wednesday.


  • #853
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    It's all starts at home, we need more people going to matches and the FAI need restructuring. Its as simple as that.

    Alot of armchair fans on here watching foreign leagues week in, week out and yet won't make the trip to their local team.

    Says it all

    People have been saying that for years.

    Nothing changes.


  • #854
    redandwhite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭redandwhite


    nehe milner skudder wrote: »
    the fields of athenry is a now a verbal white flag

    Or testament to thousands of supporters who don't go missing when they're most needed.

    The supporters who pack out Old Trafford, Highbury and the rest could learn a lot from Ireland's supporters.

    An absolute credit to the country.

    Again.


  • #855
    AllGunsBlazing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,701 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    nehe milner skudder wrote: »
    belgian fans were amazing today.vocal. vibrant.vivacious.victorious

    Still stuck with being Belgian tough.


  • #856
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Chrissybhoy wrote: »
    Opened up after first goal you mean. They caught us from a corner that wasn't opening up

    We had players up the pitch in forward positions. As people wanted. Whelan and McCarthy sitting slightly higher. Result: punishment. As people asked for.


  • #857
    Jimbob1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    If we drew with Italy, we can get third place if Belgium beat Sweden

    But two points will NEVER be enough to get a 'Best Third Place' across the six groups.

    Hence we have to beat Italy


  • #858
    Flint Fredstone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Flint Fredstone


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    It's all starts at home, we need more people going to matches and the FAI need restructuring. Its as simple as that.

    Alot of armchair fans on here watching foreign leagues week in, week out and yet won't make the trip to their local team.

    Says it all

    Yeah, it's all their fault.


  • #859
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,371 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Four years ago two sides from our group went all the way to the final, I can see this happening again. You won't be hearing anything more about tensions in the Belgian squad, I never believed it anyway.
    The north were lucky drawing the worst side by far at Euro '16 weren't they.
    If we drew with Italy, we can get third place if Belgium beat Sweden
    We won't qualify, not with a -3 GD and definitely NOT with 2 points.


  • #860
    Howard the Duck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Howard the Duck


    Balls. Robbie Brady's Balls


  • #861
    Graigmanliam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Graigmanliam


    These pundits have every excuse for not winning & to just outright say "WE WERE SH*T"


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  • #862
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,700 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Looking forward to hitting rock bottom in a few years which will hopefully force some proper changes from the ground up. There are hardly any young lads coming through the youth setup to get excited about.

    What is the point spending so much on a coaching staff when the players are not up to standard? You're asking O'Neill to polish a turd for €1m a year. Invest half of that and everything else in grassroots to give us a better league & national team in the future.

    I die a little inside seeing them aimlessly whack a ball up the pitch for Shane Long to chase and try to win against two huge CBs.


  • #863
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,072 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Italy will wipe the floor with us. Whatever about the players conte will be far too tactically strong.


  • #864
    Green Fella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭Green Fella


    Sand wrote: »
    They are ranked second in the world, better than most sides in the tournament and are vastly, vastly better than Ireland.

    Yes and that just shows how bad the rankings are

    Italy embarrassed Belgium the first game. They will be very lucky to make the QFs. They were in disarray and have achieved nothing, we made them look like Spain or Germany, when they are truely average bunch of individuals


  • #865
    AllGunsBlazing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,701 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Flint Fredstone wrote: »
    Yeah, it's all their fault.

    It is, like it or not, a factor.


    We have no real culture of the game in this country. The days of English clubs incubating players for us are over.


  • #866
    Mushy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,311 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Players set out to do what they needed to do to get a point. Whether they would have held out is another guess. Game turned on a poor decision by the ref.

    After that, the class showed. It was always going to be hard. Brainfarts by players don't help the cause.

    Disappointed, if not gutted. Despite having a chance, I wish there was an opportunity to blood some younger lads into international football before the WC.


  • #867
    irishmover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Oat23 wrote: »
    Looking forward to hitting rock bottom in a few years which will hopefully force some proper changes from the ground up. There are hardly any young lads coming through the youth setup to get excited about.

    What is the point spending so much on a coaching staff when the players are not up to standard? You're asking O'Neill to polish a turd for €1m a year. Invest half of that and everything else in grassroots to give us a better league & national team in the future.

    Looking forward? You're an awful gob****e aren't ya?


  • #868
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Hendrick Eamo!


  • #869
    Green Fella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭Green Fella


    edgecutter wrote: »
    Just no, the guy was lucky to be on the plane, never mind playing in this competition.

    Murphy shouldnt have been in France if the Management were scared to play him or didnt rate him

    But it sums up the management clueless on all fronts


  • #870
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,813 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    It's all starts at home, we need more people going to matches and the FAI need restructuring. Its as simple as that.

    Alot of armchair fans on here watching foreign leagues week in, week out and yet won't make the trip to their local team.

    Says it all

    It's more than about the league of Ireland. It starts before that.

    Besides, there's a sizeable proportion of a country that don't have a local team (in the LoI, anyway)


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  • #871
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    We had players up the pitch in forward positions. As people wanted. Whelan and McCarthy sitting slightly higher. Result: punishment. As people asked for.

    How much opening up could we have possibly done in 3 minutes of the second half to 'get what we asked for'? It was bad, stand off your marker defending that caused the goal, not opening up in anyway.


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