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Euro 2016 - Group E - Belgium vs Ireland, 2 pm, RTE & ITV

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  • #362
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    The ref hasn't been that bad.

    He set his stall out early. The players have not copped that he does not tolerate attackers challenging defenders. He is not biased, that is just the way it is.


  • #363
    Osmosis Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,361 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    It would take an incredibly stupid player to think this, but you could even argue how was Hendrick supposed to know which ball was in play


  • #364
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    The earlier Benteke comes on for Lukaku, the better for Belgium.


  • #365
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,766 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Giles sums it up.

    "I'd be worried about the situation"


  • #366
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Corholio wrote: »
    The booking by Hendricks was idiotic, fair enough if there was another ball on the field but refs use their discretion with that if it can be cleared quickly. The linesman ran on and took a ball off the field in yesterdays match. What did Hendrick expect to happen after he kicked another ball into where play was going on? He could get booked later for another tackle and be sent off absolutely needlessly. I wish players would think for a split second sometimes.

    Whatever about Hendricks fair enough but dembele made a brutal challenge and gave lip into the bargain...no yellow :rolleyes:


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  • #367
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,835 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Hendrick, despite his stupid booking is one of the few that has been looking to put his foot on the ball rather than thump it up the pitch.

    Stupid hoofing of the ball because most of the time there clearly hasn't been anyone close enough to Long to support him.


  • #368
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    That ref is awful. I watched him ref a prior game in the tournament already and he made a balls of that too. That tackle on Hoolahan in particular - (a) tackle from behind, (b) caught his heel with studs, (c) lunging. Yellow if not red, definitely required giving the player a talking too with a yellow.

    On the game otherwise, its dissapointing to see Ireland retreat so much when Belgium have the ball, it gives them all the possesion and isolates long. We need to press more to have a chance.

    Ward has played well, Brady has looked a bit lost having played (brilliantly) in LB for a year and being settled. I would like McClean to come on at one point.

    Hoolahan only doing defensive duties but we havent kept the ball long enough for hik to be effective.

    Belgium with overlaps on the wings.

    McCarthy playing well.

    Stupid from Hendrick.


  • #369
    Boskowski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    They need to change something anyway. We are far too tepid on the ball if we ever go beyond our half. Need some aggression and McClean would offer that. Sadly Hoolahan doesnt suit this type of game and can see him lasting merely 60 minutes.

    That would be replacing a fella who doesn't know what to do with the ball with a fella who doesn't get his head up. Same thing although he has more aggression alright.


  • #370
    dfx-
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    the ref has been alright. He's known to be a bit particular...

    if Long could stop pushing the man in front of him before the centre halves clatter him, that would be good.


  • #371
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Dunphy hated when that McCarthy clip came up!


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  • #372
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Belgium haven't been that great, they waste an awful lot of ball. De Bruyne getting on the ball a lot but not effecting it near the box much. We, on the other hand, have just been inviting it all on us. It's 10 men + Long at the moment.


  • #373
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Shane Long needs to summon his inner Jamie Vardy. Vardy chases and loses all day long but realises he only needs to win once.


  • #374
    Green Fella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭Green Fella


    This is really shocking stuff, the inferiority complex is clearly alive and well with us. The hoof ball up to an isolated Long is awful to watch, Belgium really are no great shakes as we seen against Italy, there to be beaten.

    Time wasting from us at 0-0 10 minutes in I mean really? We will concede and deservedly lose unless we change things soon

    Very sad to see


  • #375
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    De bruyne is the real difference I think. The ref is bad but we are doing a lot of it to ourselves. We are spending most of the game defending cause we are hoofing it long.


  • #376
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dunphy praising McCarthy?!! :eek: pigs flying past the window next surely?!


  • #377
    Fiskar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭Fiskar


    Osmosis Jones wrote: »
    It would take an incredibly stupid player to think this, but you could even argue how was Hendrick supposed to know which ball was in play

    I think it was rather clear from camera angle behind him, he just made an arshe of himself


  • #378
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Hendrick, despite his stupid booking is one of the few that has been looking to put his foot on the ball rather than thump it up the pitch.

    Stupid hoofing of the ball because most of the time there clearly hasn't been anyone close enough to Long to support him.

    People want Hendrick to be taken off when he is one of our few players with any ability


  • #379
    vidor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭vidor


    Alfred Borden wrote: »
    The earlier Benteke comes on for Lukaku, the better for Belgium.

    To be fair to the latter, he hasn't been given any decent ball when they were in threatening areas.


  • #380
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,649 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Boskowski wrote: »
    That would be replacing a fella who doesn't know what to do with the ball with a fella who doesn't get his head up. Same thing although he has more aggression alright.


    I haven't seen McClean offer much as a playmaker. The game's crying out for any Irish player to impose himself and steady things.


  • #381
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,736 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    nullzero wrote: »
    This is the promised land of tournament football.
    It would be better to fast forward to full time than to watch us get taken apart in the second half.
    All the talk of Belgium being a bunch of individuals who can't play together has to be consigned to the bin at this stage, we're making them look a good side here. They should be at least two up, like euro 2012 all over again, just a matter of time before the goals start going in for Belgium.

    We are conceding the space and ball. Anyone would look good in these conditions. We need to sit tight and continue to hope we nick it.
    PARKING THE BUS, JOSE STYLE.
    0-1 IRE !


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  • #382
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Christie could be an option at RB and move Coleman to RMF, subbing Hendrick.


  • #383
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Belgium as a team with so many talented players a muck!


  • #384
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Boskowski wrote: »
    That would be replacing a fella who doesn't know what to do with the ball with a fella who doesn't get his head up. Same thing although he has more aggression alright.

    Hendrick has failed to put his head up most of the time it comes to him. He is putting in a shift but just a bit over enthusiastic. Even the yellow card shows he is acting before thinking at times.


  • #385
    derm0j073
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭derm0j073


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I don't see Keane or ONeil on sidelines asking WTF
    Clearly a game plan to restrict the space and get men behind the ball.
    This is tactical .
    I think you're spot on here, expect more of the same 2nd half,MON came looking for a point. It's disappointing because Belgium don't look great and as seen last game we can play a bit.


  • #386
    Green Fella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭Green Fella


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Shane Long needs to summon his inner Jamie Vardy. Vardy chases and loses all day long but realises he only needs to win once.

    Long has an impossible job up there on his own with the service hes had vs Sweden and so far today. If he could cut out the silly little pushes that would be good.

    I fear Long will tire early in the 2nd half, as will the team


  • #387
    Joshua J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    We're not trying to impose ourselves in the game at all which is surprising with Roy in the dressing room. Same issue as under Trap, need to try and win the match not just lose slowly.


  • #388
    vidor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭vidor


    Hendrick.


  • #389
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,722 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Ireland need to grow a set. This is like NI v Poland, toothless and offering nothing as an out for the defense.


  • #390
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    People want Hendrick to be taken off when he is one of our few players with any ability

    Hendrick covering a lot of ground at least...I'd have Wes off tbh. A small child out there offering nothing


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  • #391
    BunkMoreland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 820 ✭✭✭BunkMoreland


    Hendrick is the last person you'd want to sub.


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