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Euro 2016 - Group E - Belgium vs Ireland, 2 pm, RTE & ITV

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Clampdown wrote: »
    Just looking at it objectively, Belgium were the favorites to win the group, off a bad loss, and have the chance to get back on track by beating what is probably the worst team in the group. I'll be shocked if the Belgians don't take the 3 points.

    Think Sweden are actually better than us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    I have a feeling we will be without hoolihan so we will be much more nervous on the ball.

    Belgium will pepper our goals with little end product, 60%+ possession.

    We might escape with a draw, but the performance will be nothing like the Swedish one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Think it ends a draw.

    It's a very generous price for Belgium. Almost too good to pass up. But when prices are that good they don't not to work out well ( from a betting perspective)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    20 quid on them on PP, get a free 5 bet for every time they score too.

    it means it can't be too disappointed!

    Put 20 quid on and didn't even know this. Bets galore on the other two games afterwards if we lose :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Belgium are not a great collective team, they are a bunch of individuals, some world class individuals but time and time again the team have shown to be underperformers.

    They had a decent qualifying group with a home win and away draw vs Wales and same results as us vs Bosnia.

    Being in 'disarray' at the moment slightly concerns me but I think we should go into this fearless, Walters is a big loss but hopefully McClean will come into replace him and display his passion and drive the team on.

    Going for a narrow last gasp Ireland win...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    I can't believe 5/6 on Belgium i just couldn't back them but it's an unreal price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    I think 5/6 for Belgium (55% chance of the win) is about right. I don't see how they could be trusted to win any international match against a not too far below average, hard working side. Particularly given their performance level under Wilmots in the last match and in the qualifiers. There's too much uncertainty over them to be considered big odds on favorites in any match like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    A draw would be a very good result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭donegal.


    if we finish the group in 3rd place with 3 points what the likelihood of progressing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭KungPao


    3-0 Ireland, two red cards for a hot-headed and all-over-the-place Belgium. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    donegal. wrote: »
    if we finish the group in 3rd place with 3 points what the likelihood of progressing?

    Better than if we finish first IIRC. I think I read if we finish 2nd we're likely to play Portugal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    hogey143 wrote: »
    Belgium are not a great collective team, they are a bunch of individuals, some world class individuals but time and time again the team have shown to be underperformers.

    They had a decent qualifying group with a home win and away draw vs Wales and same results as us vs Bosnia.

    Being in 'disarray' at the moment slightly concerns me but I think we should go into this fearless, Walters is a big loss but hopefully McClean will come into replace him and display his passion and drive the team on.

    Going for a narrow last gasp Ireland win...
    I was looking up Belgium's qualifying group last night and in fact Belgium drew 0-0 at home and lost 1-0 lost in Wales so they couldn't manage a goal over 180 mins.
    I don't like all this talk about internal divisions in the Belgium squad, that has nothing to do with us and they might even use this to their advantage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Dembele been brought in is massive for them.

    I expect him to fully control the midfield.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,973 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Better than if we finish first IIRC. I think I read if we finish 2nd we're likely to play Portugal.

    I'd imagine the op meant if we finish 3rd on 3 points what is the likelihood of that being enough to get us into the last 16


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,451 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    I think Belgium will win, Walters will be a big loss. Can't see us having too many chances in this game at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭Andre 3000


    As expected Fellaini is dropped after that toxic display. Belgium should win comfortably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Andre 3000 wrote: »
    As expected Fellaini is dropped after that toxic display. Belgium should win comfortably.

    Where did you get the teams usually not out until an hour before kick off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,763 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Big call is who comes in for Walters. Will they risk McClean ? Given that he is always a red card waiting to happen even though he would be the more positive forward thinking option ? Or will they go with some combination of Christie and Coleman down the right ? I wouldn't like to see McGeady or Meyer start.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    I reckon Belgiums defense is brittle. That left back from Montreal is not the greatest and I reckon Brady can really take advantage of that. Going for a cheeky 1-0 win.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Mec27


    I think this is Irelands strongest team since 2002/2003 but I am really not optimistic. I expect be outclassed, outran, outmuscled and just dominated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Come on Ireland :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Mec27 wrote: »
    I think this is Irelands strongest team since 2002/2003 but I am really not optimistic. I expect be outclassed, outran, outmuscled and just dominated.

    Me too. We'll be living off scraps but this Belgium team are less than the sum of their parts and may not get much end product for their possession. A draw would be a good result and gives us a chance of getting through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    Where did you get the teams usually not out until an hour before kick off.

    they were leaked before 11am


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    Team announced. All the same except Ward in for Walters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    Ireland team: Randolph, Coleman, O'Shea, Clark, Ward, Whelan, McCarthy, Hendrick, Brady, Hoolahan, Long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    Such a shame Alan Judge is injured he'd have had a great chance of starting today with Walters being out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    Mahony0509 wrote: »
    Ireland team: Randolph, Coleman, O'Shea, Clark, Ward, Whelan, McCarthy, Hendrick, Brady, Hoolahan, Long.

    That will do :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    I feel a 1-0 win with our goal coming off a set piece.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    Is it just me that would have Keogh in the team instead of Clark?

    Especially as he started a lot of the qualifying campaign


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