Firewall - Flav?

Mickah

You use UDP maping for quake cos it uses UDP as a forms of communication
What about IRC? Same thing, as in UDP Maping or is it a diff service?
Does the UDP maping method u showed me work for all kinds of protocols?

Mickah

LegacyUser

: You use UDP maping for quake cos it uses UDP as a forms of communication
: What about IRC? Same thing, as in UDP Maping or is it a diff service?
: Does the UDP maping method u showed me work for all kinds of protocols?
: Mickah

UDP is a feature of TCP/IP and so cant be used
to support other protocols, nor does wingate
proxy/map other protocols...afaik.
Wingate 2.0 has a built in service for irc
(IRC Mapping), but you can set up your own
IRC. You need a TCP/IP mapping: just set up
TCP/IP mapping on 6667 to the irc server.
K

Mickah

: UDP is a feature of TCP/IP and so cant be used
: to support other protocols, nor does wingate
: proxy/map other protocols...afaik.
: Wingate 2.0 has a built in service for irc
: (IRC Mapping), but you can set up your own
: IRC. You need a TCP/IP mapping: just set up
: TCP/IP mapping on 6667 to the irc server.
: K

Then set upthe IRC firewall option for the wingate
comp address and the port?
Doesn't work! :]

Mickah

Mickah

: Oh yea, IRC, uses TCP, normally on port 6667:
: Mapping TCP
: inside 6667, outside irc.iol.e:6667

: should work?
Nope, but i think the ISDN line was disconnected
when i tried it! I think that the box and the program
need to be rebooted when u add a service? Not sure tho

: did the quake mapping work??
Yeah, but only to 1 address! Anyway of using the
same service for loadsa servers, cos otherwise
it'll look suspicious with 10 odd new UDP services
all with the word quake in it!

:]

ta for the help Kaile, Flav,

Mickah

LegacyUser

: : Oh yea, IRC, uses TCP, normally on port 6667:
: : Mapping TCP
: : inside 6667, outside irc.iol.e:6667

: : should work?
: Nope, but i think the ISDN line was disconnected
: when i tried it! I think that the box and the program
: need to be rebooted when u add a service? Not sure tho

: : did the quake mapping work??
: Yeah, but only to 1 address! Anyway of using the
: same service for loadsa servers, cos otherwise
: it'll look suspicious with 10 odd new UDP services
: all with the word quake in it!

ha ha, cool.

now just dont use the word quake for the mapping!

Its easy to just have one mapping, send the one mapping to an external proxy!
qizmo has been running on jim.barrysworld.com:6969, maybe quake.ie can run qizmo, for all of us, not just those behind firewalls. (Or has that tcd proxy been upated?)
There are a few other public qizmos, of course the 15 min limit is not very handy.

LegacyUser

People, feel free to jump in and shout muppet when i say somehting wrong.

TCP/IP, is the commonly used name for network protocol used on the internet, and now adays other nets, developed by the US military, and sort of standardised by the IETF, Internet Engineering Task Force, in documents called RFCs, Request For Comments.

There are a number of layers and possible protocols in each layer.

TCP, Transaction Control Protocol, is a high level layer/protocol which makes sure that nice well organised, error-free streams of data get from one application to another. So for example HTTP, FTP, Telnet, email, IRC all use TCP to send and receive data.

UDP, User Datagram Protocol, is an intermdiate layer/protocol that only handles sending and receiving a small amount of data, a packet. It does not check that the data got to where it ws meant, or does it check that the data was error-free. Because it is alot simpler than TCP, it is alot quicker. Quake uses UDP, and i believe IQC also uses it. But not much else.

IP, Internet Protocol, is a low level protocol, which does a very similar job to UDP. It also has some special functions, for example, ping uses IP, (well ICMP, but it's close).

There are a bunch of other protocols, but they arent so important, ie. PPP, SLIP, BOOTP, DHCP, ARP, RARP, - check the RFCs.


So where were we?

Oh yea, IRC, uses TCP, normally on port 6667:
Mapping TCP
inside 6667, outside irc.iol.e:6667

should work?

did the quake mapping work??

ps. i'm not sure why i bothered trying to do a 5 line intro to TCP/IP, but anyway, it's done.

LegacyUser

: : : Oh yea, IRC, uses TCP, normally on port 6667:
: : : Mapping TCP
: : : inside 6667, outside irc.iol.e:6667

: : : should work?
: : Nope, but i think the ISDN line was disconnected
: : when i tried it! I think that the box and the program
: : need to be rebooted when u add a service? Not sure tho

: : : did the quake mapping work??
: : Yeah, but only to 1 address! Anyway of using the
: : same service for loadsa servers, cos otherwise
: : it'll look suspicious with 10 odd new UDP services
: : all with the word quake in it!

: ha ha, cool.

: now just dont use the word quake for the mapping!

: Its easy to just have one mapping, send the one mapping to an external proxy!
: qizmo has been running on jim.barrysworld.com:6969, maybe quake.ie can run qizmo, for all of us, not just those behind firewalls. (Or has that tcd proxy been upated?)
: There are a few other public qizmos, of course the 15 min limit is not very handy.

There is a new proxy available from Gunsoft that supports proxing via a large number of prots including
HTTP. The only thing is the proxy is written in java so you need a just in time complier.
I have yet to see what type of load this will put on the the quake.ie server but if it is not too
great perhaps this is a proxy we can use (it will support quake and quake 2 and all other variants).

Conor.

LegacyUser

: There is a new proxy available from Gunsoft that supports proxing via a large number of prots including
: HTTP. The only thing is the proxy is written in java so you need a just in time complier.
: I have yet to see what type of load this will put on the the quake.ie server but if it is not too
: great perhaps this is a proxy we can use (it will support quake and quake 2 and all other variants).

: Conor.

URL?

I did a search that turned up a page in japan, in japanese. Hey, I know your a capable individual, but do your talents extend that far?

Helvis

Most of this is bullshìt to me. Does any1 know a place where I can get some sort of file or something about firewalls for muppets...ehhh beginners `twould be nice to play from work if i could get past the firewall!
Mail me.

LegacyUser

: URL?

: I did a search that turned up a page in japan, in japanese. Hey, I know your a capable individual, but do your talents extend that far?


Not exactly :-)
But thats a secret !
Conor