extensions and listed buildings

alienhead

i'm thinking of buying a small property, how can i find out if its listed?

if it is listed, does this mean i can't extend the property?

most or em on the street have been extended, but maybe these were done years ago, just want to make sure.

Victor

Originally posted by alienhead
i'm thinking of buying a small property, how can i find out if its listed?

Ask the local council (city / town / county) planning department, many councils will have their lists on the internet. Depending on what you want to do, it may only be a matter of talking to them before developing as opposed to needing planning permission. The objective of listing is to preserve character / history of the building, not necessarily prevent development.

Originally posted by alienhead
if it is listed, does this mean i can't extend the property?

You will still be able to extend, it just means there are no absolute exemptions (most small rear extensions are exempt on non-listed buildings) and it will be studied more rigorously. While more comments / objections are possible / likely, this is not something to be "afraid” of.

Originally posted by alienhead
most or em on the street have been extended, but maybe these were done years ago, just want to make sure.

The rules changed a few years ago (2000?), so they were probably done before then or obtained planning permission.

e.g. http://www.dublincity.ie/planning/devplan.htm
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/devplan/index.htm

Search words: listed, conservation, planning, development plan

alienhead

ta, the list is in .pdf format, would take ages to sift through it all, i'll just pop em a mail!

any idea how much an extension would cost, say for a double bedroom.

would it cost alot more if it was a two story extension?

Victor

Originally posted by alienhead
any idea how much an extension would cost, say for a double bedroom. would it cost alot more if it was a two story extension?

How long is a string? PM me a sketch and I might put a (very) round number on it.

alienhead

Victor

i'd say if i was to develop the property, my budget would be around 15k

just somthing along the lines of this

http://www.theprecipice.freeserve.co.uk/Gif/Bed3d.gif


i'm right in saying, anything below 40 meters squared doesnt need planning permision?

how about a timber framed extension?

would it cost much more to stick in an en suite?

ta.

Victor

Listed buildings: You may need planning permission even for interior alterations and decorations.

Suggestion: if you wish to extend, talk to your neighbours early on and see if they also want to extend. While it can make the financials / contracts more complicated, it make the processes a little simpler and avoids boundary disputes. It could also lead to some savings. It will also make the rear of the properties look a lot better.

Originally posted by alienhead
i'd say if i was to develop the property, my budget would be around 15k

That would work, to a basic standard, on an ordinary building, but if the planners insist on particular materials liek brick and natural slate, because it is listed, you could easily add €5k+ to that. Depending on where your drains, etc. are. Adding a second level wouldn't necessarily double the cost, as you would have much the same roof and foundations.

Originally posted by alienhead
just somthing along the lines of this
http://www.theprecipice.freeserve.co.uk/Gif/Bed3d.gif

On which side(s) is the existing building?

Originally posted by alienhead
i'm right in saying, anything below 40 meters squared doesnt need planning permision?

Only if the building isn't listed. Assuming a certain level of rear yard / garden is maintained (20m2?) and boundaries aren't interfered with (1m space left), I understand this is the new limit. There is also a height limit of 1 or 2 storeys (I can't remember which).

Originally posted by alienhead
how about a timber framed extension?

I have never heard of a timber frame extension. They would tend to be too small to be economic. a company called Sheomra make pre-fab bedrooms (designed to be stand alone in the style of: http://www.thedeckcentre.com/)

Originally posted by alienhead
would it cost much more to stick in an en suite?

Assuming basic WC, wash basin and shower perhaps €3k - €5k, assuming the plumbing / drainage / wiring isn't too difficult and there is no extra floor space.

alienhead

ta victor

Victor

Originally posted by alienhead
ta victor

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