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getting the lowest ping possible

  • 30-05-2003 10:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭


    anyone got any tips on how to get the best ping with Dsl with Quake3? I was told that there is a number of script lines you can use. Something like "cg_maxpackets = 20" ? not sure but


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    /cl_maxpackets 30- but change the number till yu get the best ping


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Pug {erZ}


    I find hese helpful

    //Snaps Selection - toggles snaps from 10-100 with F5
    set SetSnaps1 "set snaps 10;wait;set SetSnaps vstr SetSnaps2;wait;echo Snaps 10"
    set SetSnaps2 "set snaps 30;wait;set SetSnaps vstr SetSnaps3;wait;echo Snaps 30"
    set SetSnaps3 "set snaps 50;wait;set SetSnaps vstr SetSnaps4;wait;echo Snaps 50"
    set SetSnaps4 "set snaps 80;wait;set SetSnaps vstr SetSnaps5;wait;echo Snaps 80"
    set SetSnaps5 "set snaps 100;wait;set SetSnaps vstr SetSnaps1;wait;echo Snaps 100"
    vstr SetSnaps2

    bind F5 "vstr SetSnaps"

    //cl_maxpackets Selection - toggles maxpackets from 30-100 with F6.
    set Setcl_maxpackets1 "set cl_maxpackets 30;wait;set Setcl_maxpackets vstr Setcl_maxpackets2;wait;echo cl_maxpackets 30"
    set Setcl_maxpackets2 "set cl_maxpackets 50;wait;set Setcl_maxpackets vstr Setcl_maxpackets3;wait;echo cl_maxpackets 50"
    set Setcl_maxpackets3 "set cl_maxpackets 60;wait;set Setcl_maxpackets vstr Setcl_maxpackets4;wait;echo cl_maxpackets 60"
    set Setcl_maxpackets4 "set cl_maxpackets 80;wait;set Setcl_maxpackets vstr Setcl_maxpackets5;wait;echo cl_maxpackets 80"
    set Setcl_maxpackets5 "set cl_maxpackets 100;wait;set Setcl_maxpackets vstr Setcl_maxpackets1;wait;echo cl_maxpackets 100"
    vstr Setcl_maxpackets2

    bind F6 "vstr Setcl_maxpackets"

    // Toggle Timenudge

    set t_10 "cl_timenudge -10; echo ^3Timenudge = ^2-10; set time_toggle vstr t_20"
    set t_20 "cl_timenudge -20; echo ^3Timenudge = ^2-20; set time_toggle vstr t_30"
    set t_30 "cl_timenudge -30; echo ^3Timenudge = ^2-30; set time_toggle vstr t_40"
    set t_40 "cl_timenudge -40; echo ^3Timenudge = ^2-40; set time_toggle vstr t_50"
    set t_50 "cl_timenudge -50; echo ^3Timenudge = ^2-50; set time_toggle vstr t_0"
    set t_0 "cl_timenudge 0; echo ^3Timenudge = ^20; set time_toggle vstr t_10"
    vstr t_0

    bind F7 vstr time_toggle


    You also need seta Rate as well 9000 for 56k 12000 for ISDN, etc..

    look here :-

    http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/quake3/quake-4.shtml

    http://kpush.tripod.com/tweaking/id4.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭saik


    yeh sorry to get all nerdy on you, but.
    ping isn't aim.
    if you send and receive less packets, sure, the game reads out lower latency times. 30 packets a second leaves 33ms between packets, ie you update your aim etc 30 times a second. 60 packets a second updates your aim twice as fast, 16.5ms between packets, so you will be more accurate with hitscan weapons(mg,sg,lg,rail) at higher maxpackets. you can use 125 maxpackets on broadband and i'd recommend that to anyone who doesn't flood out when they use it. the quake3 ping readout is a load of crap. incidentally, if you use 30 mpackets you warp, as in jerk across your opponents screen, which might come in handy if you dont want to be hit. ****s your aim up though, and you get moaned at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Pug {erZ}


    I could say BULL .. to the above but it is only true
    to his point of view - everyones settings are different
    so changing your .cfg file may have slightly different results
    than for someone else thats why I gave you a bind to try
    different Snaps - btw snaps 30 doen NOT "warp" you on
    everyones screen :rolleyes:

    Most important thing to do is get your rate/snaps/maxpackets/
    fsp and graphic settings setup - then try the other stuff.

    Also BULL "you can use 125 maxpackets on broadband" as this
    implies that you need v.fast connection to use it when its only
    true if you have a ping over 200 so on a 56k modem connected
    to a local area server with a ping sub 200 it works fine.

    I had a 64k isdn and it worked fine in most of EU and now
    I have a 128k :) - generaly 125 only lets you jump higher and
    run a bit faster at a slight cost to aim.. fk so many players will
    tell you bits of info as if it was gospel but you will have to just
    try it out for yourself - I play Q3 on 2 PC and have different cfg
    for both !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Illkillya


    i dunno what you're saying Pug, but the net settings have a well defined function, so there actually are correct values to use. As it happens, Snaps 10, and cl_maxpackets 20 are not correct values, in fact they would be banned from most OSP servers, and they would greatly degrade the quality of your game.

    You should use snaps 40, your snaps will be capped by the sv_fps server side command, which is usually set at 20, 25 or 30, so snaps 40 will cover all of those situations adequately.

    I would recommend your maxpackets as high as you can, (i.e, as close to 125) as your conn would allow. It controls the upload, and most broadbanders use cl_maxpackets 100 or 125, except for some belgians who have an upload cap on their ISP. If for some reason your conn cant handle it, you might only have 64k upload bandwidth or something with radsl at times, then lower it, but i would say never lower than 30.

    In conclusion:
    for 512k/256k

    rate 20000
    cl_maxpackets 125
    snaps 40


    cl_timenudge -> experiment


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭saik


    shh or mp will call you an idiot again
    and learn to read


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭MindPhuck


    idiot :)




    Pugs, your misguided.
    Ando, read what Killy said, its pretty accurate.
    Saik, I love you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭saik


    LOVE U TOO MAN


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Pug {erZ}


    misguided hmm... well all I can say is it works for me ;)


    http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake3/connection.html

    LAN ** seta cl_maxpackets "125"
    seta cl_packetdup "0"
    * seta snaps "40"
    seta rate "25000"


    ADSL / Cable / Wireless ** seta cl_maxpackets "100"
    seta cl_packetdup "1"
    * seta snaps "40"
    seta rate "25000"


    is written as a rule but can be tweaked to give better results

    ( I have over 150 changes in my cfg and had to extend memory
    just to load my cfg file as it was to big - new PC with 9700 pro
    card also ruined my settings - playing worse atm till I reset stuff)

    forgive me but OSP I don't know as its just gone FT and I have
    yet to do a cfg for OSP FT BUT I can tell you for a fact that these
    so called rules can be tweaked with to get better results - again
    depending on server, mod, PB, PC, etc...

    maxfps increases your fire power a little bit
    and if you are lag badly then do lower your maxfps as low as it can go and a - timenudge to - 5 or max i would say -10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Nexus


    Pugz SHUSH, they are quake Nards. Jesus man!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Pug {erZ}


    Don't know about that :p - guy who went over my cfg
    is a admin on demon also got info off top Q3 players
    incl koppa from here I think - which btw koppa is the
    hardest cfg I ever tried to play with...

    but suppose if MP says so ... :confused:

    :o btw was wrong about maxpackets my max is 100
    still higher than yea say :p

    [ btw anyone know if and what price a server over here is to
    rent and if the speed is good for mainland compared to UK -
    clan has 2 servers 1 in UK has gone laggy atm and looking
    for a cheap fast 1 ]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Nexus


    Koopa is his name. He will tell u the same as saik and killy. As for ure admin speech, any dumbass can be an admin. eg... Benji. Enuff said :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Pug {erZ}


    LOL who's Benji :D

    Aw right Koopa - sorry dude - well its been a year or more since :eek:

    K so anyone mind telling me important stuff for OSP .cfg file
    have a kinda ok new PC with good GC a AMD 2000 with a
    9700 pro card and ISDN 128k and my old cfg is setup for a 6 yr
    old Gateway so I had a very ugly display/game setting and it
    didnt run right on my new PC.

    Also since Oceanfree went to a 1890 nbr my connection gets
    ( hmm... dont know right term ) spikes or v.bad Lag but on the
    lagometer it shows up as a full Green bar and not yellow spikes
    ...strange .. have tried 3 ISP to correct problem but still there
    also tried Q3 with default cfg and still happens every 60 seconds
    or so .. tried rate of 8000 to 14000 and snaps etc...
    weird it only happens for 5 seconds every min or so - firewall
    off btw and ctrl/atl/del to turn off other programs as well

    Anyone had this before or are yea all ADSL now


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