Metallica - St.Anger preview tracks

Lemming

Sweet JESUS!!! :eek:

That was an assault on my ears! Roll on August 20th! w00t


open a media-player and 'copy n'paste these links in to play them

Enjoy!

mms://demand.stream.aol.com/wmg/us/eeg/metallica/metallica_com/wm/aud/56/stanger_preview_asf.asf

mms://demand.stream.aol.com/wmg/us/eeg/metallica/metallica_com/wm/aud/56/frantic_asf.asf

Ph3n0m

well looks like another metallica album will be added to my collection

Acidflash

sounds good alright

Mossy Monk

the premiere of their new video is on MTV2 this Monday at 5pm

Drunk pirate

Getting really thrashy arn't they?! ****ing brilliant!!!!

Bring it on monday!!!

cournioni

Notice the downtuned Slipknot sound...

Lemming

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Notice the downtuned Slipknot sound...

Ummm ... downtuning isn't the sole-preserve of SlipKnot. The way you said that it comes across as if they invented it and only they do it. I'm sure your favourite band have downtuned. In fact, iirc didn't downtuning (consistently) start with Black Sabbath?

And everyone pretty much copied them in that respect. Sooo, I could turn around and say .....

"Notice the dowtuned Black Sabbath sound" in response to you going on about some song by your favourite band Pornapster.

cournioni

I meant it in the way that the riffs were being played, the riffs sound alot like Slipknot's. And you can hear the downtuning along with it. I didn't say that downtuning was the "sole-preserve" of Slipknot.

Yes lots of my favourite bands use downtuning, but they usually stick with the one tuning. For example, they use two different tunings for two different albums and that setting the tone for the album like Metallica have done with this album.

I'm sorry Lemming, I don't mean to have this arguement every single time something like this comes up. I know you are probably fairly smart when it comes to music and that your sound in general, but I'm very annoyed at the direction that Metallica are taking at the moment, and having Lars say "we've never changed anything, we've just not had an album which could live up to the Black album".

I just find it very annoying that my one time favourite band has gone downhill so fast, and then have them claim it wasn't part of their plan.

/|/)etal)-|ead

Hmmm... all I can hear is drums and jamez, guitar and bass barely audible in background. They seem to have ditched solos too ffs. They have also forgotten how to structure songs, I heard st. anger 3 times on the radio earlier, and it's just 3 different songs stitched together with boring repetition. Their lyrics seem to be even weaker than load/reload too, it seems that it was a bad idea to let the other band members help write them. The drum sound is just completely bizarre too, kinda like paint cans being hit instead of drums or something.
To be fair, st. anger was edited by about 3 mins for radio so maybe I should wait for the album to make up my mind...
I'm very thankful though that they have gone a very different route from new metal - a really unpolished original sound.

Giblet

I've heard St. Anger a few times now.
Seems very unpolished for a released track.
The snare is really annoying and the bass drum is barely audible.
The riffs are pretty boring too.
Does anyone else notice that James sounds like he is having a bit of trouble singing?
Not an example of their best work at all.

pyramid man

well thats because it is playing at a really low bitrate. wait till you hear the finished piece/

Captain Trips

Yeah the low 32kbit/sec rate did suck. I didn't like the obvious lack of a decent melody in either track though. Most of Metallica's stuff are incredibly melodic.

And downtuing? Are we talking about dropped D, etc., ? That would be unusual wouldn't it? Most of the official tab it's standard E. And they can accomplish a far more authoritarian sound with the older riffing style IMHO anyway.

Giblet

Im talking about the finished one, the video is on MTV.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i just got the video now, it's not a bad song at all.. except for the backing singing it just sounds so wrong. and the pace of the song.. it jolts from fast to slow too sudeenly. meh

also.. hetfield screaming like a nu goth teen idol... hrm

still, catch chorus

OSiriS

I have to sya that from what I've heard of it I'm very disappointed. I think giblet hit the nail in the head. These songs are just noise, they don't have any of the running melody of any of the older metallica classics. I suppose it might appeal to those who like their less popular stuff ... but there was a good reason you rarely heard those songs live.

Captain Trips

Saw the video on Kerrang (set in a prison). It's not that bad having heard the whole thing with some proper bass - but the pace is too jerky like said above from thrash metal to the melodic style of say One or FTB.

It's got an odd feel to it - sort of like maybe something on The Crow soundtrack or something. I can't put my finger on it. It's not classic or "new" Metallica and it's definitely not nu-metal.

Very much like say a movie soundtrack or something you'd hear on Terminator 3 (not that it is).

Ronan|Raven

Just downloaded the video and have to say I quiet like it. Took 5 listens to it and like it Not classic metallica by any means but not bad each to his own I say. Looking ever more forward to the gig in August.

WhiteWashMan

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Notice the downtuned Slipknot sound...

:rolleyes:

Lemming

I have to say that I find the song a little jerky too. I'll listen to it a few more times though. The video is ok though I suspect that the quality of the sound is a little sub-standard (a .wmv file).

cournioni

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
:rolleyes:

D-Generate

I hate describing songs like this but I don't know anyother way to do it. Did anyone else find the song St. Anger very hollow sounding and the lyrics were sang with no emotion what so ever. It sounds like it wasn't even mastered.

Then again I am not a fan of Metallica, not now, not then, and probabley not ever.

Captain Trips

Well I am listening to Ride the Lightning right now and yeah it doesn;t have the same kick that Metallica usually have. That said, the style could grow on me as at least it's sufficiently different to warrant an album purchase.

ManWithThePlan

The first thing i noticed about the new song is it's structure. You guys hit the nail on the head when saying it goes from melodic to thrash too suddenly.
The guitars are barely audible at some parts and the drums are too repetitive. It's kind of growing on me though..

cournioni

One thing I've really noticed... the production isn't the best. What the hell is Bob Rock at?

The vocals are up too high. The drums sound terrible (snare sounds like a can, you cant hear the bass drums). Is there any bass in there at all? The guitars could do with a rise in volume aswell. - Judging from the St. Anger song.

Captain Trips

At least maybe when we all get thrown in prison for Mp3ing metallica CDs with extreme prejudice and without any thought of the consequences we might get Metallica to come in and play as they probably have MP3 players not allowed in prison.

ManWithThePlan

While we're on the subject of metallica/copyright..
Metallica decided not to cd-copy protect their cd's. You can make a copy of the cd with no hassle at all.
This is ironic considering their napster saga.

Ronan|Raven

Copy Protecting music cds is a complete waste of time imho. As soon as a new protection is released it has been cracked by someone. Lower the prices and more will buy them imho. The prices that are being charged atm are ludicrous.

Captain Trips

Yeah, I can see it being released at at least 20 euro, prob closer to 25. Weird considering that equates to 25-30 dollars these days.

Ah, remember when Cds cost 12.99? They've crept up a lot in the past 2 years.

Acidflash

They have brought forward the release date for the album



http://www.metallica......

Lemming

Originally posted by Captain Trips
Yeah, I can see it being released at at least 20 euro, prob closer to 25. Weird considering that equates to 25-30 dollars these days.

Ah, remember when Cds cost 12.99? They've crept up a lot in the past 2 years.

gbp£8.99 on play.com with free shipping. My little contribution to saying "f*ck you" to the rip-off merchants in this country

ManWithThePlan

While on the subject of cd prices..

Haven't Bono and about 1200 other artists signed a petition to cut down on the high cd prices of recent times?

Anyone got any more info on this please.

Steven

cournioni

Originally posted by Steven

Exactly what I was thinking... No solos? *shakes head*

Lemming

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Exactly what I was thinking... No solos? *shakes head*

I'm pretty sure I heard solos (in some of the songs anyway). Besides, solos aren't everything. I've heard ****e songs with good solos and vice versa. Of course I've heard brilliant songs with brilliant solos too.

Anyway .. meh!

cournioni

Originally posted by Lemming
I'm pretty sure I heard solos (in some of the songs anyway). Besides, solos aren't everything. I've heard ****e songs with good solos and vice versa. Of course I've heard brilliant songs with brilliant solos too.

Anyway .. meh!

Yeah, but you need solo's in nearly all your songs Lemming. Sometimes solos do not fit into songs which is perfectly ok in my opinion. But most of the new Metallica stuff has space for a solo. St Anger for example, at one point I thought there was going to be a solo because it all fitted in perfectly but it just went back to the same riff again and again... zzzzz!

Oh god I need some sleep!

ManWithThePlan

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
St Anger for example, at one point I thought there was going to be a solo because it all fitted in perfectly but it just went back to the same riff again and again... zzzzz!

Exactly what i was thinking. There's one point in the song that has great potential for a solo.

On the topic of solo's not being needed.. Thrash metal needs solos. It's one of the most important parts of the song imho. It's the climax to it all. Metallica especially are a solo band, and the only reason as to why they got rid of them i can think of is to appeal to a more younger audience(i.e linkin park fans)

Giblet

Gone are the days of the signature solo in every song.
You never need solos though, most solos are there to hide shoddy songs.
So maybe St.Anger could have used one then

Lemming

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Yeah, but you need solo's in nearly all your songs Lemming.

I don't agree with that. As Giblet pointed out, sometimes the solos are there to hide the rest of the song. If you look at it another way, it's almost predictable in that everyone expects a solo. So that's another way to look at it. "Why SHOULD we do a solo?" etc

But most of the new Metallica stuff has space for a solo. St Anger for example, at one point I thought there was going to be a solo because it all fitted in perfectly but it just went back to the same riff again and again...

Good point!

cournioni

Originally posted by Lemming
I don't agree with that. As Giblet pointed out, sometimes the solos are there to hide the rest of the song. If you look at it another way, it's almost predictable in that everyone expects a solo. So that's another way to look at it. "Why SHOULD we do a solo?" etc

True, I find that some of my favourite songs have no solos in them, Morbid Angel's "God Of Emptiness" being one. The solo was left out in that song because there was no need for one and at one point I didn't even notice that there was no solo in it. Raining Blood by Slayer being another.

But thats what I meant when I said you need solo's in nearly all your songs. Some songs need them. Others don't.