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Adding win98 as third OS. Already have RH8 using LILO

  • 17-05-2003 8:34pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭


    So the problem is this,

    If I create a new partition on my HDD and install win98 on it (I have a few games that'll only play with win98) will LILO automatically recognise it? LILO is in the MBR I think.

    I already have Win2K and RH8 on the system and I've had problems when I removed an origional install of RH8 and the PC wouldn't boot (I just formatted the HDD, most likely the worst way to go about removing it)
    Since I reinstalled RH8 my changes to LILO.conf don't seem to be recognised, so I'm a bit skeptical of my LILO boot loader.
    Should I just remove RH8, install win98 then reinstall RH8 (or I might get RH9, any point in that?)

    Any help in any regard would be hugely appreciated.
    I'm looking forward to replies.

    Raz.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Something


    Lilo would'nt, you would have to edit /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo and windows 98 needs a primary partition in the first 8gigs of your hard drive, iirc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭Raz


    Okay, so I can manage to edit LILO but as I said I'm skepticle of if it will accept the changes due that format screw up I did.
    And when you say "run LILO" do you just mean reboot?
    Oh, and what does "iirc" mean? I've never come across that before :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    Raz do the following.

    http://home.att.net/~lilo-boot/liloflop.htm

    since windows is going to overwrite your master boot record.

    Once you have installed windows and booted back to linux.

    edit your
    /etc/lilo.conf to add a line like this

    other=/dev/hda1
    label=windows

    Also, I'm thinking that windows will want to have control of the first primary partition on your primary ide interface's master ide device and won't install to any other partition... which means if you have something installled on /dev/hda1, you going to have to chuck it if you want to install windows 98.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭Raz


    Also, I'm thinking that windows will want to have control of the first primary partition on your primary ide interface's master ide device and won't install to any other partition... which means if you have something installled on /dev/hda1, you going to have to chuck it if you want to install windows 98.

    Well that's a bit of a bugger! You see my hard rive is set up like this,[PHP]
    --hda
    |
    |--hda1 (Windows 2K Pro) (3GBish-primary)
    |--hda2 (/boot)(100Mb-primary)
    |--hda3 (logical)
    |
    |--hda4 (storage)(12GB-NTFS-logical [I think])
    |--hda5 (/root)(4GB-logical [I think])
    |--hda6 (swap)(512Mb-logical)
    [/PHP]
    I think that's about right.

    What I wanted to do was take about 3 or 4 GBs at the start of the NTFS partition and then I could put win98 there.

    If I could get a copy of Partition Magic 8 I think I could make hda1 & 2 invisible.
    If so do you think I could put Win 98 in the place I wanted and then make the other 2 partitions visible again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Win98 won't run on NFTS iirc, you'd have to create a separate FAT32 partition to run it from. Ugh. Frankly, I wouldn't go to the effort.

    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭b3t4


    If you really really want Win98 getting a second harddrive might the easiest and best option for you rather than messing around with your current HD.

    Im sure you could proberally get a 4/6Gig or so HD for pretty cheap these days. If you need more then Im presumming it'l cost you.

    1. Remove the current HD.

    2. Put the new HD in place.

    3. Install Win98 on the new HD.

    4. Once the install is complete. Remove the HD and replace it with the original HD and setup the second HD as a slave to the original HD.

    5. Now go about getting LILO to pick up the second HD

    edit the
    /etc/lilo.conf and add the line:

    other=/dev/hdb1
    label=windoze

    I think that this would be your easiest way out of a potentially messy situation.

    [edit] now when I think about this again I dont know if the Win98 will be happy to be on hdb1. Errer windows hates me and I hate it. *shrug* [/edit]

    Rgds,
    A.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭Raz


    That'd be a handy enough idea and I'd probably go for it but there's one big problem.
    I'm doing this on a laptop with space for only 1 hard drive. I probably should have mentioned that before, but I didn't think it necessary :rolleyes:

    Something else I'd like to ask.
    I followed that link you posted Typedef and there was this line in it to install lilo,
    lilo -C /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf
    Now that's all good, but I'm getting this error
    Can't put the boot sector on logical partition 0x306

    this is the contents of my lilo.conf file,

    prompt
    timeout=20
    default=Windows 2000 Professional
    boot=/dev/hda
    map=/boot/map
    install=/boot/boot.b
    message=/boot/message
    lba32

    image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14
    label=Linux
    initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-14.img
    read-only
    append="root=LABEL=/"

    other=/dev/hda1
    optional
    label=Windows 2000 Professional

    To get it to install in the Master Boot Record should I have

    boot=/dev/hda0

    In the lilo.conf file?
    fd0 seems to be the boot sector of a floppy so I assume it's the same for a Hard drive.


    seamus, I've got games that will only run under Win98! And good ones too, Red Alert, Commandos, Need For Speed: Road Challenge! I have the Win98 Disk at home so I wanna be able to use all my software! :)

    Oh, and nobody answered my other question,
    what does "iirc" mean? :) Have patience, I'm a bit slow :p

    Sorry this post is so long!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭b3t4


    iirc = if i recall/remember correctly

    www.acronymfinder.com is always handy for most acronyms

    A.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭Raz


    Cheers :)


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