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Difference in Jewish/Christian perception of Jesus?

  • 17-05-2003 1:38am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭


    This is a question that has always nagged at me. I know what the Christian perception of Jesus is/was. I have been told by school teachers(some of whom were priests) etc, that Jews see Jesus as an important prophet - and if this is true, does anyone know what the Jews make of the New Testament, and what they make of what Jesus says in it? It has been hard to get a straight answer out of anyone, and I know this is a Christian forum but can anyone actually tell me what the difference is?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭bug


    As far as my limited knowlegde extends Jews follow the old testament and Christians follow Christ/the new testament.
    My mother's opinion is that the coming of Christ was a kind of reformation to instruct the Hebrews in a new way, ie. his way's however I don't know what she bases this on as I have never asked her.( I must) I think that the Jewish religion recognises him as a prophet just not the son of god.
    The Koran, accorading to my Malay friend also recognises jesus as a prophet, or documents him as such anyways. Anyone else know anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 TOASTOR


    it seems god is coming all the time..
    what a man


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 nick_riviera


    As far as I know,there is no common Jewish belief regarding Jesus,some may see him as a prophet,others as a madman,while others have no opinion,seeing the question as simply not relevent to their faith.

    Islam and the Bahai faith regard Jesus as a prophet,like Moses or Abraham.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭sanvean


    'normative' Judaism (although such a term didn't really exist at the time) didn't recognise Jesus as a prophet, or if it did, they saw him as a false prophet. I think the original poster is confusing Judaism and Islam with re to their interpretation of who Jesus was. The koran recognises Jesus as the second last prophet (and even has a very amusing conversation between Allah and Jesus, where Allah asks Jesus whether he told the Jews that he was God, and Jesus replies something along the lines of Em, honest, no i didn't).

    Of course, a hefty portion of Jews did see Jesus at least a prophet (and some would argue, God Himself). Those Jews being Jesus' followers.

    [edit] didn't see your post, nick riviera, or else I wouldn't have said have the things I did [end edit]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    The last two posters summed up the Jewish relationship to Jesus so I've very little to add.

    There were quite a few people around the time of Jesus claiming to be the Messiah. The writings of the three chaps who wrote the book of Isaiah in the Old Testament were widely interpreted as indicating that the Messiah would arrive during thre reign of Herod the Great (which is obviously when Jesus was born). The Roman emperor Caligula fervently believed himself to be the Messiah, using some of the same interpretations (incidentally, Herod privately believed that he was the Messiah until shortly before he died). So the Jewish faith regards Jesus as another one of these pretenders. The Muslim faith regards Jesus as a Prophet of the Wood (their phrase, not mine) and a precursor to the arrival of Mohammed with the new teachings. Obviously Christians believe that the prophecy was fulfilled with the birth of Jesus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Thomas The Think Engin


    Jesus asked His disciples "Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? Matthew 16:13 and nothing has changed since. Some still say He is a prophet, teacher, deceiver, etc. But we who are Christians say (like Peter) that He is the Christ, the Son of the living God (V16)

    Jesus fulfilled 600 Old Testament prophecies pertaining to the first coming of Christ (All of which were fulfilled literally) yet the Jews did not and still do not recognize Him as their Messiah.

    Today the Jews remain spiritually blind to the fact that the Kingdom of God is at hand, because they do not read the New Testament for themselves. And even if they did, the apostle Paul, reviles this spiritual truth about them. “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in” Romans 11:25

    The fullness of the Gentiles will come with the 2nd coming of Christ for which there are 4,800 prophecies recorded in the Bible (All of which will be fulfilled literally) So the answer to your excellent question as to what is the difference between an Old Testament Jew and an New Testament Jew is nothing they are both the same when it comes to recognizing Christ as the Messiah.

    Yours in Christ, Tommy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Thomas The Think Engin


    it seems god is coming all the time..
    what a man


    Using a small “g” denotes a false god were as a capital “G” denotes Jehovah the one true living God. So be careful how you express yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    It's been 10 years, so hopefully the OP has found the answers he needs - closed.


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