Re: Suicide Question

Riamfada

Just inspired from the other Post. The State garuntees the right to life of the citizen under the Constitution which supercedes many other specified and unspecified rights. However if the right to life is garunteed, should it not be so that the right to non-life or suicide be confered to the people?
Im not aware of the wording of the mental health act. So lets just leave that out cause it would get way to complicated.

Silent Bob

Originally posted by Grimes
Just inspired from the other Post. The State garuntees the right to life of the citizen under the Constitution which supercedes many other specified and unspecified rights. However if the right to life is garunteed, should it not be so that the right to non-life or suicide be confered to the people?
Im not aware of the wording of the mental health act. So lets just leave that out cause it would get way to complicated.

The legality of the situation always amazed me. How anyone could be arrested for breaking that particular law is a conundrum...

That said I suppose the fact that it is illegal might discourage a few people from taking their own lives.
I can tell you from experience that this is a horrible, horrible thing to have happen to a person you know.
IMHO it's worse than an unexpected accident, because suddenly out of the blue you find out that a person you knew/cared about was exceptionally unhappy with their life and you never realised, you are always left with the feeling of 'could I have made a difference'.

I'm not even sure that people should have the right to commit suicide, not least because of the suffering it causes to others.

So I would against removing the legal 'obstacle'.

D nominater

I'm not sure about the suicide thing either but i think it should be legal.
If it wasn't illegal it might be easier for people to commit suicide in public or pretend to intend to thus causing a lot of public anxx(real word?) as well, could be a 'non-argument' though because illegality is definately not a hugely powerful force in preventing suicides, and probably people trying to commit suicide in public and the like could be stopped on other grounds like disturbing the peace(i suppose).

By the by,what does this mean(,pay 1 life(ignore this if you don't play Magic/MTG)): "Omnes arx vestrum sunt adiuncta nobis"

Victor

Suicide is not illegal. Aiding suicide and similar actions are illegal.

If you are seen attempting to commit suicide you are liable to arrest under under the Mental Haelth Act. and / or for public endangerment.

D nominater

What kind of a Gaol sentence do you get for aiding suicides?
Are attempted suicides illegal?
If you're arrested under the mental health act and the other public endangerment acts do the men in white coats get you or do you do a specified gaol sentence if found guilty.
B.T.B. Anyone know any gaol sentences that just have one specified gaol sentence duration, like say
jay walking backwards in a manner exceeding local road speedlimits, and likely to cause public endangerment + violation of the mental health act(served concurrantly) ... = 6.9 day gaol sentence(scaler constant value).

I think that in general as they are implemented concurrant sentencing tends to be a bit of a joke.

Victor

Originally posted by D nominater
What kind of a Gaol sentence do you get for aiding suicides?
Are attempted suicides illegal?

Look up:
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/front.html

CRIMINAL LAW (SUICIDE) ACT, 1993 Section 2

2.—(1) Suicide shall cease to be a crime.

(2) A person who aids, abets, counsels or procures the suicide of another, or an attempt by another to commit suicide, shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

Referred to in CRIMINAL LAW ACT, 1997 SECTION 9

D nominater

Thanks