iStream with a PABX

sisob

This is a bit complicated and I'm hoping that someone can help me.

In our house we have a business style PABX. We have two phone
lines that go into that and about ten extentions. So to get a line
from any phone or modem in the house you have to dial 9 first.

Now I want to get iStream dsl and I'm hoping that it's possible.
Does anyone know what would be involved in getting this to
work while still being able to use both lines throughtout
the house.

My own gut instinct is that i will need to split the line with
the asdl adapter in my attic before it gets to the pabx. Then I
can have the voice line going into the pabx and the dsl line
going into a modem or reuter.

Unfortunately then I need to bring an ethernet cable down
the outside of my house to get to the office. And the pabx
uses non-standard connections so I either need to get
special equipment or hire a vastly overpriced "network
technician".

Anyone have any info that would be of use to me, and/or
any of the line headers required for phone cables and
the odd pabx connections, or know anyone that would
help me for a resonable price. Also is there any chance
that the eircom guys would do it?

bricks

The splitter will just go on before one of the lines goes into the PABX unit.
Also an Eircom Biddy told me that pabx is no problem.

furlong

Ok

slightly different if you have ISDN (Hi-speed) or two individual analogue lines. If you have an ISDN PABX (pretty unlikely) then all bets are off and ignore most of this post!

If it is ISDN then you wil need to have this downgraded to an analogue line and adsl insalled on the analogue line. This will mean you have one analogue line and ADSL. If you then want a second analogue line you will need to have that installed.

If two analogue lines then it is pretty much the same except you dont need to downgrade or order a new line you just need to order adsl on one of the lines.

As Bricks has already said you will need the splitter on the line that has ADSL before it goes into the PABX.

Without knowing the "odd" connections you have on your PABX it is dificult to generalise.

One of the reasons you pay those overpriced technicians is because they have the experience and the parts to sort this out.

Eircom tech might do it as a nixer but he may not know the PABX you have and may not carry the connectors. Depends if you get a half decent one or not (most of those I have dealt with are pretty good).

Let me know what type of PABX you have and I will see if I have the correct connectors in my box of bits.

Basically what you want is possible but you may need to do some rewiring to sort it out.

I would strongly advise against running ethernet cable down the outside of your building unless you want to risk frying you expensive PCs and network equipment!!!!

HTH

zz03

Originally posted by sisob
This is a bit complicated and I'm hoping that someone can help me.

In our house we have a business style PABX. We have two phone
lines that go into that and about ten extentions. So to get a line
from any phone or modem in the house you have to dial 9 first.

Now I want to get iStream dsl and I'm hoping that it's possible.
Does anyone know what would be involved in getting this to
work while still being able to use both lines throughtout
the house.

My own gut instinct is that i will need to split the line with
the asdl adapter in my attic before it gets to the pabx. Then I
can have the voice line going into the pabx and the dsl line
going into a modem or reuter.

Unfortunately then I need to bring an ethernet cable down
the outside of my house to get to the office. And the pabx
uses non-standard connections so I either need to get
special equipment or hire a vastly overpriced "network
technician".

Anyone have any info that would be of use to me, and/or
any of the line headers required for phone cables and
the odd pabx connections, or know anyone that would
help me for a resonable price. Also is there any chance
that the eircom guys would do it?

Shouldn't be any more difficult than installing DSL where you have a monitored alarm.

1. Get an RJ11 socket (as sold in Roches Stores etc) and connect it to one of the loops before it hits your PABX. i.e. you are going to have to cut one of your lines before it hits your PABX.

2. Plug the twin socket filter supplied by eircom with your DSL modem (if they don't forget to pack it) into this RJ11.

3. Plug your DSL modem into socket B of the filter.

4. Plug your PABX into socket A of the filter. If you don't have the tool to put an RJ11 plug on the line from your PABX you could purchase a 3m cord with RJ11s on each end and cut it and use a plastic wiring connector junction box to join the wires from your pabx to the cable leading to the RJ11.

The two middle pins of the RJ11 carry the PSTN phone service. Look at these pins and observe their colours. Connect these two wires to your pabx line x.

Shouldn't take more than 10 mins to install. Go for it!

(If your PABX is fed by ISDN, as the poster above says, you are going to have to downgrade first to PSTN. If you are on ISDN I would suggest getting a new PSTN line for DSL. It could also be used for a fax machine or other analog device. It would be a pity to downgrade a home ISDN PABX to PSTN because eircom can't do ISDN with DSL).

zz..

sisob

I don't have isdn - they are two analog lines
as far as I know.

I just went and had a look at the pabx and
what zz03 said will most likely work. The
guys have already used plastic connectors for
some of the connections, so i might even be able
to use those. Saves me worrying about specific
connectors.

I may be able to get a rj11 header from a friend
of mine which will save me some trouble.

Just realised I also have a monitored alarm,
I'll have to find out which line it uses and make
sure to use the other one.

I would strongly advise against running ethernet cable down the outside of your building unless you want to risk frying you expensive PCs and network equipment!!!!

damn, guess I'll have to try and run it inside
the house, or maybe run a wireless network.
Would that work over 3 stories?

Also eircome haven't upgraded my exchange
yet Gonna see if maybe netsource can
connect me.

Gavin

Netsource are reselling Eircom's service. So if Eircom can't provide it to you at the moment, netsource wont !

Gav

Coyote

sisob have you thought of a wireless network ?
there are a number of adsl modem/router/wireless network all in one.
they do cost a bit more than the cheepest dsl routers and you would
have to get pci wireless cards for your pc's but you do then have a wireless
network for laptops and around the house. with out the problems of running cat5 cable.
i would think there should be no problem with the wireless base station in the attic

Coyote

sisob

Originally posted by Coyote
sisob have you thought of a wireless network ?
there are a number of adsl modem/router/wireless network all in one.
they do cost a bit more than the cheepest dsl routers and you would
have to get pci wireless cards for your pc's but you do then have a wireless
network for laptops and around the house. with out the problems of running cat5 cable.
i would think there should be no problem with the wireless base station in the attic

Really? That would kill a few birds with one stone. Didn't relise that wireless would
work that well.

Can you point out a suitable router online somewhere?

My own pc is my room in the converted attic so i can easily run a network cable to it, which would
save me buying a pc card for that pc.
I assume that wireless routers also have
ethernet ports on them.

Coyote

this sounds just about what your looking for Linksys Wireless Ready ADSL Modem Gateway w/4-Port Switch with Wireless PCMCIA Card

have a look at this thread on the net/com board
Wireless Routers with ADSL modem built in

I don't have a wireless router myself so i won't comment on them.
you need to check that all this would work befor buying !