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Night clubs all over ireland

  • 30-04-2003 12:15pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭


    Yo all...

    I've been in ireland since about 5 years now...

    So far i only heard of couple of dead in nights clubs... (not a lot really)...

    Can you explain/tell me how come there is so little "incident" during the week ends (not including driving of course...)?

    I mean in france, I lives in a city about twice the size of cork... only about 4-5 nights clubs, and there use to have either a dead or seriously damaged person on a weekly basis...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Repli


    Are you talkin about people getting beaten up?
    Just take a walk down dame st or o'connell st at 3am :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    no no... i am not talking about beating up...

    I'm talking about being beat to death... plus everything else you can imagine.. and not in the street... in the club (most of time from the bouncers really)...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭lyonsy


    you need to seriously unfcuk yourself, it appears you want to see night club deaths?!?! this is ireland sunshine, it may be impossible to walk the streets at night without a beating or some form of abuse but we don't do murders - maybe its because we're not as passionate as the french, but who wants to more murders. there was that incident in cork a year ago when bouncers beat some guy to death - granted he was a scumbag and probably deserved a beating, but killing him was a bit much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    nooo.. I wondered how come you had less! I didn't say i wanted to see more... :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    Cause we get pissed when we go out and in France their a bunch of Arrogant Wànkers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    You don't find too much damage done to people *inside* Irish clubs because the bouncers are usually extremely keen to have troublemakers removed, both for the safety of the other customers, and to make sure they don't get their asses sued when someone get shards of glass in their face.
    I've seen CIA style liftings of people who haven't thrown a punch, but who are 5 seconds away from starting a fight. Quite cool really.

    There's a ridiculous amount of fights in Dublin every night, and sometimes they do result in death. Bouncers tend not to completely beat the sh*t out of people, cos it usually ends in the loss of a job and considerable amounts of money, but there have been a couple of cases of people dying at the hands of bouncers.

    France is also much larger than Ireland, in terms of population. Obviously, the random deaths are going to seem more frequent, but per capita, I'd say France is far less violent than Ireland on the weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Agree with last statement.. one of many reasons why i left france at 19.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭the Guru


    yip try any club on oconnell st the back gate on cathal brugha st is aways a dead cert


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


    As far a beating and Bouncers go I found that NI was exponentialy MORE voilent than Dublin by a long long way.

    Im not even talking about sectarian stuff im just talking about random sh!t kickings. This i a a problem you see all too often an NI and surprizingly little when I was in Dublin. ie 4/5 years I saw only one or two incidents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Originally posted by [-UK-]Wolf
    As far a beating and Bouncers go I found that NI was exponentialy MORE voilent than Dublin by a long long way.

    Im not even talking about sectarian stuff im just talking about random sh!t kickings. This i a a problem you see all too often an NI and surprizingly little when I was in Dublin. ie 4/5 years I saw only one or two incidents.


    so would you agree with my view that for some reason (I know.. not as big as pretty much any other cities in europe etc...), but still... It is very quiet... random act of violence (beat in the street, smashing of stuff from bus shelter to windows..etc...) will always happen everywhere ?

    Even on drug stuff... people are smoking weed.. big deal... but honestly, I think they worry about not much on drugs for example... only some small areas are touched, and not even everywhere...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    I would put it down to different cultures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Originally posted by Venom
    I would put it down to different cultures.

    Could you explain this a bit deeper?
    I know alchool (no offence) is a very big part of irish culture... but Do you think beating somebody is part of the french culture? (starting to wonder now....)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭daveg


    Originally posted by super_canard
    Yo all...

    I've been in ireland since about 5 years now...

    So far i only heard of couple of dead in nights clubs... (not a lot really)...

    Can you explain/tell me how come there is so little "incident" during the week ends (not including driving of course...)?

    I mean in france, I lives in a city about twice the size of cork... only about 4-5 nights clubs, and there use to have either a dead or seriously damaged person on a weekly basis...

    - - - snipped as I didn't read the full post - - - - -


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    WTF is wrong with you?

    Theres more than enough hassle in Irish clubs as it is without more stúpid ássholes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch


    I was wondering when someone was going to get p1ssed off!!!

    Indeed my french friend, I suspect that if people in french night-clubs go around talking as much ****e as you've been doing, it's little wonder they pop their clogs regularly.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Originally posted by super_canard
    nooo.. I wondered how come you had less! I didn't say i wanted to see more... :-)

    If you read it... I already explained... i'm just wondering...!!!
    I don't wish to see more crime!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭daveg


    Originally posted by super_canard
    For whose who are not able to read a thread from the start! !

    You right... I misunderstood... I didn't read the full thread... thats because... as with all your threads... there so boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Panda


    your the one giving headaches daveg, read all the replies and then post.

    Hes already explained that hes just wondering why theres less incidents in irelands clubs than france.

    i've never been in a club in france, or in france for that matter and the only people that could comment on this are people who have been there and been in the clubs.

    so you'd know better the difference between french and irish people/culture canard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Oh right... there boring... right... Well why you bother replying then ? :-D

    Anyway I put ya on ignore.... if you ain't open minded, please put me on ignore... that will make your life and my life simpler...

    daveg, just on my ignore list... congrats you're the first... and most likely not the last...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭daveg


    Originally posted by super_canard
    Oh right... there boring... right... Well why you bother replying then ? :-D

    Anyway I put ya on ignore.... if you ain't open minded, please put me on ignore... that will make your life and my life simpler...

    daveg, just on my ignore list... congrats you're the first... and most likely not the last...

    :D:D:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


    Originally posted by daveg
    What kind of a fúcking muppet are you ? Are you complaining that there are not enough murders/beatings in nightclubs or is your dribble lost in the translation.

    BTW is there anything in life you cannot figure out for yourself or have you decided that all of your actions henceforth will be decided by your boring threads on boards. Get out and get a life my French friend. Your starting to give me a headache.

    Daveg dont be a gimp.

    His English isnt perfect and I dont think thats what he meant. No need to start flaming him.

    Back ON topic tho I give found compared to other citys Dublin isnt that bad for seriously violent crime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Originally posted by [-UK-]Wolf
    Back ON topic tho I give found compared to other citys Dublin isnt that bad for seriously violent crime.

    so we pretty much all do agree (appart from some unfortunate incident) that the crime rate in ireland (even knowing it's growing) is still extremely low against most other countries?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    my uncle(lets call him bob) once told my a story, when he was younger(around 21) he was in a que for a club , some drunken scumbag started shouting etc, bobignored him, then he started geting aggressive and pushed bobs @ the time girlfrnd ,

    bob got angry and asked the guy did he want to take it down some lane out fo the view of all these ppl, the scumbag said yes and they walked down the lane, then 4 other scumbags came down and they started to beat the ****e outa bob !

    2 guys had seen what had happened and they ran down the lane. they were black belts :ninja: in somthing or other and proceded to kick the ****e outa the 5 scumbags, 2 V 5 and they downed them all :) they then helped bob up and that was that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    There have been quite a few deaths out of night clubs in ireland over the last number of years. In Dublin it is in the order of about 5 a year (rough estimate). Not all are publicised that much.

    On the topic of arrogant french people. I was in Jurys Ballsbridge after the match on Sunday getting food. My old lad was asking the hostess where she was from in France, just being nice (definitely not sleazy). As she was walking away she said under her breath "Vous saloup" (bad spelling I know). As far as I remember this is a major insult in French?

    No reason for it what so ever except for the fact that her mate was doing the desk beside her and she was showing off or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Originally posted by ballooba
    On the topic of arrogant french people. I was in Jurys Ballsbridge after the match on Sunday getting food. My old lad was asking the hostess where she was from in France, just being nice (definitely not sleazy). As she was walking away she said under her breath "Vous saloup" (bad spelling I know). As far as I remember this is a major insult in French?

    yeah.. one out of many reasons why i left france... The same goes for irish girls in dublin.. spent 4.5 years there (I did try to make the best of it really), but it was impossible to meet nice people... You couldn't offer a light in the street without being insulted... (u know poor people who can't get their ciggies lighted :-) )... So i moved down to cork.... :-D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


    The crime rate in Ireland particularly Dublin is terriable, as in robberies and such like however, for actual violent crime it is comparativly not in the same league as other eruo counties.
    However domestic voilence is a problem as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭ozpass


    You're confusing the Karate Kid with reality Tusky.

    "My Miyagi helped my uncle beat up 60 people with guns".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Just for info... What has been done for the "violent crimes" to be so low (You know what I mean by now...)?

    Was there any forces put in place or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


    I personally believe it due to the fact the an Irish man (and im one born and bread) will nick anything if he can get away with it AS LONG as its isnt doing any real harm to anyone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭lyonsy


    dunno why the french like to fight so much, as you describe.
    if history has thought us anything, its that the opposite is true.
    theres an old saying that french tanks have one forward gear and 5 reverse!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Understood what you mean...

    Would that be related to the fact that guns are illegal in ireland? which makes it much harder to do anything (as in illegal-robbery..etc..)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    with the way things are going now it wont be long before some lunatic is going to walk into a club with a gun and start shooting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


    Originally posted by woosaysdan
    with the way things are going now it wont be long before some lunatic is going to walk into a club with a gun and start shooting

    On not saying this isnt a possibility but this is based on what now ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    based on my own opinion thats all!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    Originally posted by super_canard
    Just for info... What has been done for the "violent crimes" to be so low (You know what I mean by now...)?

    Was there any forces put in place or something?

    Oh yes! There are simply _rafts_ of gardai on the streets of Dublin nowadays!
    </sarcasm>

    I see punch-ups in Dublin pretty much every time I go out for the night, Grafton st and Temple bar square are the best place to go for ringside seats.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Originally posted by eth0_
    Oh yes! There are simply _rafts_ of gardai on the streets of Dublin nowadays!
    </sarcasm>

    right... Well there will always be fights everytime lot's of peoples are together drinking...
    It's nearly a human attribute to fight... I can't actually believe I saw so little fights when being in dublin (not like I want to see them... I just never saw much violence in dublin.. and no I ain't asking for more violence... <==just to make sure... once again..)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


    Originally posted by eth0_
    Oh yes! There are simply _rafts_ of gardai on the streets of Dublin nowadays!
    </sarcasm>

    I see punch-ups in Dublin pretty much every time I go out for the night, Grafton st and Temple bar square are the best place to go for ringside seats.

    Hmm, Iv seen very few? Ill have to go with you etho and you can get me a ticket so :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    Although (spelt properly????), there isn't that many irish people in temple bar... most are french, spannish, italian, chinese...etc... (my buddies really :-)) ), would u think this is a reason why there is more fight in there?
    Or do the fights you're talking about were only involving irishs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    Originally posted by super_canard
    I just never saw much violence in dublin.. and no I ain't asking for more violence... <==just to make sure... once again..)

    *where* in Dublin exactly did you go out?
    Try outside supermacs on o'connell st at 3am, that's another hot spot!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭super_canard


    right... I lived in d1-3-5-15-24...

    (known as moore street, phisboro, tallagh, raheny, clontarf, blanchardstown-castleknock... and maybe a few others that i forgot.. :) )...

    I tried to avoid supermac's during my 4.5 years in dub' I have to admit that just the look of the burgers kinda made me sick... (i usually don't like burgers much... but these looks nasty dunno why... )


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭Belle Ende


    I find that pikey scum always hang out outside 'Dr. Quirkey's Good Time Emporium' at the parnell-end of Grafton Street. I am always fearful that they'll attack/steal/insult me, especially at night. It's happened on a number occasions to some of my friends.

    And some of these scumbags who hang around late at night aren't even 16 years old. Seems like they are free to do what they please, and where they please.
    :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    There, was an incident at a club close to my house "The Enigma" earlier this year where a guy had his ears ripped off outside the place after it was over. I used to go there alot when I was younger and there used to be guys getting beaten up with chains, wheel brace's etc.

    It's a scum hole itself, and I've stopped going there altogether now.


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