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Anyone seen Donnie Darko?

  • 17-04-2003 3:31pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7


    Hi all,

    I just seen Donnie Darko and i'd like to know if anyone else seen it and if so, whats your thoughts?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Illkillya


    ya i've seen it about 20 times, there were a couple of threads about it in the past few months, you should be able to find them using Search.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    yep, best film ever imho!
    can't wait for the full dvd release, the directors commentary should be interesting.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Samson


    Originally posted by tman
    yep, best film ever imho!
    can't wait for the full dvd release, the directors commentary should be interesting.

    :confused:

    Is this a new edition?
    I have had my DVD copy of Donnie Darko since June last year.
    Complete with commentaries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Mark


    Exceptionally entertaining film and kick arse soundtrack to boot.

    Really makes you think (for a long long time) and the hypnotic quality it possess's (sp?) just makes for good viewing

    5 star film


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Originally posted by Samson
    :confused:

    Is this a new edition?
    I have had my DVD copy of Donnie Darko since June last year.
    Complete with commentaries.

    i'm talking about the region 2 dvd, up untill now there's only been one with a crappy cast & crew commentary
    the one that's getting released next month has a commentary by kelly & the guy that plays donnie + a load of deleted scenes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    Warning CRANKY POST BELOW:


    I really didn't think that Donnie Darko was all that amazing of a film to be honest. It was passable entertainment but to be honest the director's head was up his own arse and a lot of the very 'thought-provoking' material that people talk of is the sort of drivel that people come up with when stoned - that's all well and good but they don't go making films about it.

    And the conversation about the Smurfs? Some directors (in awe of Quentin Tarantino) feel that they have to throw at least one pop-culture conversation into their film just to be cool. ****e to be honest.

    Anyway - that's it. I feel that it's one of the most over-rated films I've seen in a long while.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭Tyrrial


    fantastic film.. i love it good... and indeed a fantastic sound track


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭Macseamusa


    i have seen it twice, its my fav film at the mo. where do think i cud buy the soundtrack?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    Good but over-rated.

    One of those "oh look at me, I'm weird and thought-provoking and therefore I must be a stunning groundbreaker of a movie" type of films. Weirdness for the sake of it.

    An interesting watch, but tries too hard to be more than it is. Didn't live up to my expectations, unfortunately.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    to be honest i thought it was pretty ****. i enjoy some surrealism and weirdness but Donnie Darko was weird for thesake of weird. Just so people could say "its the best movie ever" and sound intelligent.
    Ive only seen it once, but that should be enough, if you have to rewatch a movie a million times to "get" it then its kinda lost the point of being 2 hours entertainment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    Well I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who wasn't blown away by it. Thought I was alone there for a while as nearly everyone I talked to about it thought Donnie Darko was '****ing brilliant'.

    Ok then.

    Oh and here's something (not sure if it's been posted already) the lead from Donnie Darko is supposed to be taking over from Toby Maguire in Spiderman, or so I've heard anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by bombidol
    Ive only seen it once, but that should be enough, if you have to rewatch a movie a million times to "get" it then its kinda lost the point of being 2 hours entertainment
    I guess I'm gonna be pretty rude below, so I guess I'll start off by apologising ahead of time.

    Anyway, I've always had trouble with people complaining about films left 'open', without a ton of exposition and explaination required for each scene. The above comment really takes the biscuit for being the most stunning display of ignorance I've yet read. In this thread.

    You do not need to re-watch Donnie Darko to 'get' it. Just like you don't need to re-watch the Sixth Sense, and you don't need to re-watch the Usual Suspects. Watching these films again knowing the outcome just helps shed a lot of light on things you might not have noticed were there, or you might even interpret the entire film differently, knowing the ending. Clever movies, wha? If people say they've seen Donnie Darko lots of times, fair enough, because for a lot of people, it'll be a little bit different each time. Every time you watch xXx, or any Jerry Bruckheimer piece of pyrotechnic fluff, you're seeing the exact same film you did first time.

    And if you think movies are limited to being nothing but "2 hours entertainment", then you've blown it already. This is not the case. Movies can be thought-provoking, and movies can be chewing gum for the eyes ("No thanks, Ted"). There's nothing wrong with either group of movies.

    As for whether Donnie Darko was weird for the sake of being weird (or - good jesus - 'so people could say "it's the best movie ever" and sound intelligent') - that's pretty much a matter of taste. Some people have very little tolerance for it. It's basically a piece of hardcore science fiction wrapped up Catcher in the Rye, which throws a lot of people off.

    It's probably not the best movie ever, but it's certainly a really impressive debut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Macseamusa
    i have seen it twice, its my fav film at the mo. where do think i cud buy the soundtrack?
    You can buy a cd of the score around the place - amazon had it a while ago. But the director says they couldn't afford to license the songs for a soundtrack CD, and so encourages people to download the tracks off the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭DadaKopf


    I got the whole thing off Kazaa or Soulseek so its definitely up there. Well worth getting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    I just bought the soundtrack off amazon with my new gift cert from Hobbes on the definition game prize (thanks Hobbes!). I await it with baited cd tray.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    I get you Obey, perhaps "2 hours entertainment" wasnt the right way to put it. i just feel that the movie went out of its way to confuse people therfore scaring them into saying it was excellent so they wouldnt be called dumb swines by their arthouse mates :P and it kinda cought on from there. There are some great scenes in the movie but i wasnt impressed by the final product at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Nemici


    a lot of good points above, I would be in the school of thought that it is over rated. I think it was spoiled by loads of my mates sayin its the best film ever ever ever.

    I enjoyed it none the less but when it was over and five minutes had past I didnt think about it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    I thought the movie sucked as it had more plot holes then swiss cheese.
    First up, The demon rabbit. If the demon rabbit was from the future then it would of had a clue to actually leave Donnie in his bedroom to begin with and save himself the hassle of having his brain blown out.

    Second, The jet engine falls in both instances, which means that regardless if Donnie lives or dies the destruction of the world is still coming, so staying in his bedroom is just giving his main squeeze an extra couple of hours of life and letting some sicko get away from being arrested.

    So really there was no point to the movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Hobbes
    I thought the movie sucked as it had more plot holes then swiss cheese.
    ..
    So really there was no point to the movie.
    All those guys who "say that the movie was excellent, just to be 'down' with their arthouse mates"?

    Those guys are nothing compared to the ones who yell 'plot hole!' whenever they don't understand something.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


    Originally posted by Bard
    Good but over-rated.

    One of those "oh look at me, I'm weird and thought-provoking and therefore I must be a stunning groundbreaker of a movie" type of films. Weirdness for the sake of it.

    An interesting watch, but tries too hard to be more than it is. Didn't live up to my expectations, unfortunately.

    Got to go with Bard on this one while its an alright movie its not in master class by any means. Also hobbies you didnt get the movie m8 :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    I didn't get the movie because there was nothing to get.

    There was no point to 90% of the movie, of course you don't realise this until the end of the movie.

    For most of the movie your going 'wtf?' until the end when it makes sense. But just because it makes sense doesn't mean it was good.

    But I can't wait to read this... ObeyGiant, Wolf, hows about a spoiler detailing what the movie was about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    From such a simple thing as looking back over previous Donnie Darko threads...

    http://www.tangent-universe.org/time-travel.html

    and
    http://www.angelfire.com/wi2/rgounder/files/donniedarkoexp.txt

    Before reading this, it is best to have read Roberta Ann Sparrow's pamphlet, A Philsophy of Time Travel. I have included this at the end of this document.

    This is a movie about several things; time travel, predestination vs. free will, and most of all, divine intervention.

    Donnie Darko is a schizophrenic, sleepwalking teen who believes that he will die alone. There are at least two places where this is mentioned. First, when he and his dad are driving, they almost hit Roberta Sparrow, or Grandma Death, in the road. Donnie gets out to ask her if she is all right, and she whispers something to the effect of, "Every living creature on this planet dies alone," to Donnie. In addition, when Donnie is talking to his psychologist, he mentions that he is scared because he thinks he will die alone.

    This movie is about divine intervention. A jet engine crashes right into Donnie's room, which kills him. God, however, creates a Tangent Universe, and uses Frank, along with Donnie's sleepwalking abilities to draw Donnie out of the room before the jet engine hits. Donnie learns from Frank that he only has around 28 days before time runs out. This signifies the duration of the Tangent Universe. We get a hint of this divine intervention at the end of the movie, when Donnie has just exited the cellar door as a hostage. As a knife is being held to his neck, he utters "deus ex machina" which means "an unexpected character [usually divine in nature] who is suddenly introduced into a work of fiction to resolve a plot or extricate the protagonist from a difficult situation."

    The Artifact is the jet engine and marks the beginning of the Tangent Universe.

    Throughout the Tangent Universe, all of the characters help Donnie towards the ultimate goal of him getting back to his room so that he can die and time can go on. These are the Manipulated Living. There is only one significant instance of the Manipulated Dead, that being Frank, the bunny.

    Frank is Donnie's sister's boyfriend. He tells Donnie about his master plan and time travel and manipulates Donnie into committing various acts of mischief. First, Donnie floods the school by breaking the water main. At the scene of the crime, the words "They made me do it" are written on the ground. Incidentally, this handwriting also matches the handwriting on the whiteboard on Donnie's fridge during the Halloween party that says "Frank was here - went to get beer." We get a glimpse of Frank without his mask on in the movie theater scene. Frank says that he's sorry, which is a foreshadowing of his hurting of Gretchen, Donnie's girlfriend. Donnie asks him what happened to his eye, as it is bloody. This, of course, happens when Donnie shoots him in the eye, after he runs Gretchen over with his car, with the gun he found in his parents room when he follows the vector coming out of his chest.

    The other characters help Donnie along his way. His english teacher mentions the phrase "Cellar Door" to him, which indicates where to go on the final night of his existence. His science teacher discusses time travel with him and gives him the pamphlet on time travel. Jim Cunningham, the motivational speaker, has his house burned down by Donnie, which leads authorities to undercover a kiddie porn ring. Kitty, his obnoxious health teacher, is distraught over this news, and can not attend the Sparkle Motion's appearance on Talent Search. Donnie's mom must accompany them, leaving the house free for the party and the rest of the events.

    Roberta Sparrow is an interesting character. She writes her theory of time travel, which describes Donnie's condition precisely. She is always checking her mail, because she fears that in the future, that her pamphlet is not a work of fiction and that someone will need it and write her. Donnie does send her a letter, and on that fateful night, Roberta is checking her mail. Since she finally does receive mail, the car being driven by Frank avoids Roberta, since she's not on the road, and swerves to run over Gretchen, which prompts Donnie to shoot him, etc.

    After all of these evens transpire, Donnie realizes what has happened. He returns to his bed and understands that the entire parallel universe was God's way of signaling to Donnie that he was not alone in the universe. The master plan showed him that someone was willing to create an alternate universe for him to prove that he wasn't alone. Donnie laughs as he realizes he has so much to look forward to after death, and accepts the fact that the jet engine will crash into his room.

    The other characters have a vague recollection of the events of the Tangent Universe. Jim Cunningham cries because he knows he will be caught. Kitty is upset because her hero will be proven a pervert. Chirita Chen is smiling, remembering Donnie's comment to her that everything will be ok. Frank has just completed his plans for his Halloween costume, as we see sketches of the evil bunny suit. The world has been righted again.

    Perhaps the only fault of this movie is that Richard Kelly made it too complicated for its own good. None of the above explanation could not have been created without the facilitation of the pamphlet about time travel. Even so, it is a good movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    First up there are spoiler tags for a reason. Second I asked for your opinion not someone elses.
    After all of these evens transpire, Donnie realizes what has happened. He returns to his bed and understands that the entire parallel universe was God's way of signaling to Donnie that he was not alone in the universe.

    Bull plop. Total and utter bull plop.

    The Jet engine crashes into his room due to the universe being destroyed and it is sucked back through time off the plane that is crashing at the time.

    Because of this, regardless if Donnie is in the room or out of it, the universe is still going to end for the same reason. So if the universe is going to end his GF is going to be all alone the second time around before she's destroyed with the rest of the world. and all the other stuff will never happen. Donnie buys her an hour or so.

    To think that God has created donnie his own special universe is to share in donnies schizophrenic delusions.

    To say God is controlling Mr Bunny is a stupid excuse to why Rabbit guy would save Donnie from getting a jet engine on the noggin when it is Donnie who kills him in the future and he knows this.
    "deus ex machina" which means "an unexpected character [usually divine in nature] who is suddenly introduced into a work of fiction to resolve a plot or extricate the protagonist from a difficult situation."

    Actually it means "God from a machine". It is to introduce something into the plot forced or improbable in order to resolve an issue that the current script couldn't (used to be a god coming down on stage and laying the smack down on the mortals).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Wolf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Hobbes
    First up there are spoiler tags for a reason. Second I asked for your opinion not someone elses.
    First up, this has gone so far off tangent, I doubt anyone that hasn't actually seen the film would even care to read any more. Besides.. I don't know anyone who doesn't mouse-over the spoilers anyway.

    Second, you asked me to provide a spoiler. I gave one. If I honestly thought there was going to be a reasonable discussion, I'd probably provide my own interpretation.
    Hell, you're not going to even accept a really well-written and well-thought out explaination of the film.. so why should I bother with my half-assed theories?
    To think that God has created donnie his own special universe is to share in donnies schizophrenic delusions.
    Having seen some of your other posts on this forum - you can accept a world where giant robots have taken over, use humans for energy, and to keep the docile, have created an entire reality for them, but you can't accept the notion of 'God' in a movies?
    To say God is controlling Mr Bunny is a stupid excuse to why Rabbit guy would save Donnie from getting a jet engine on the noggin when it is Donnie who kills him in the future and he knows this.
    [/B]
    Durrrrrrr.
    This is the simplest of things to explain.
    1. Frank (the Rabbit) kills Donnie's girl - he says 'sorry' for doing it, too. He had no beef with Donnie, he knew he deserved it.
    2. Frank (the Rabbit) is only dead in the tangent universe. If he helps Donnie to 'restore' the primary universe, he gets to live again, so of course he's going to help him.

    Jesus, you're not even trying now.

    Seriously, you shouldn't go around insisting that things have "more plot holes than swiss cheese", when they can and have been explained. You're just making yourself look silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    my personal theory on it is that it was a time-loop type of thing

    Basically, Frank realised that if he wanted to live then he would have to insure his death. if he had not died he wouldnt have been there to lead donnie, and therefore Donnie would simply die and be gone, without the effects it had on other characters during the story.

    The things that really screw with my head are the fact a)The only reason donnies follows his destiny is becuase he can see it, it is because of this he cannot divert from going to the gun.

    b)Did Donnie actually commit the vandalism acts or did he place them on franks head himself? because, self admitedly, he had serious problems, and he had burnt down a house before...the question is, were these franks orders or his own?

    c)The crossover of realities....was the jet engine just a remnant of a fúckup in time or was it gonna happen either way?

    d) did i completely not understand large parts of the movie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Besides.. I don't know anyone who doesn't mouse-over the spoilers anyway

    Good for you. But there are people here who don't like reading spoilers, so common curtosity is to spoiler the text.
    Hell, you're not going to even accept a really well-written and well-thought out explaination of the film.. so why should I bother with my half-assed theories?

    I would if it was well written and well thought out. It isn't.
    Having seen some of your other posts on this forum - you can accept a world where giant robots have taken over, use humans for energy, and to keep the docile, have created an entire reality for them, but you can't accept the notion of 'God' in a movies?

    Of course I can. But there is no divine intervention in the movie. To say there is just 'Deus Ex Machina' (ie. Saving a crap film from no plot). I find it funny that you try to debunk it using a totally different fictional movie I may of posted about.
    2. Frank (the Rabbit) is only dead in the tangent universe. If he helps Donnie to 'restore' the primary universe, he gets to live again, so of course he's going to help him.

    Jesus, you're not even trying now.

    Wtf? :) Read what you posted and go look at the movie again. It makes no sense.
    Even if Frank is dead in the tangent universe it makes no sense whatsoever.

    Frank is dead because he saves Donnie. Helping Donnie is what got him killed. Not helping Donnie would of meant he lived as Donnie would of never left his bedroom and started the chain of events.

    Claiming that 'God' is controlling Frank to explain the plot is BS.

    Even without that though. The death of Donnie means nothing. The jet engine still kills him due to the destruction of the universe some days later, which means everyone is screwed anyway, and further means there is absolutly no reason for 90% of the movie.
    when they can and have been explained. You're just making yourself look silly.

    Hardly. The only explanation I've seen looks like one given by a Schizophrenic. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Hobbes
    Good for you. But there are people here who don't like reading spoilers, so common curtosity is to spoiler the text.
    Then they probably shouldn't do a search for "Donnie Darko" on here. Everything I pasted can be found un-spoilered elsewhere on boards. This is about the fifth thread about Donnie Darko, and in each of them, rational theories have been posted. Including this one.
    Originally posted by Hobbes
    I would if it was well written and well thought out. It isn't.
    Heh - asking for an explaination, but preceding it with "I can't wait to read this..." kinda makes this hard to believe.
    Originally posted by Hobbes
    Of course I can. But there is no divine intervention in the movie. To say there is just 'Deus Ex Machina' (ie. Saving a crap film from no plot). I find it funny that you try to debunk it using a totally different fictional movie I may of posted about.
    There are plenty of other hints towards this.
    1. Donnie laughing as he dies - after Roberta Sparrow tells him "Every living thing dies alone", he whinges for most of the movie, until the end, when he knows he is about to die.. and then he's laughing. My first interpretation of this was because he knew he wasn't going to die alone, because God was there. Maybe a little sappy, but that was my initial interpretation of it. The commentary on the DVD confirms this.

    2. The teacher not being able to explain to Donnie when Donnie questions him about what he saw re: the tunnels of water coming out of people - the teacher knows that if he continues, he will no longer be teaching science, and will then be crossing the line into religion. For which he'd get fired.

    3. Remeber - that 'deus ex machina' line isn't the only mention of God in the entire movie. Donnie constantly talks about "God's Channel", or "destiny".

    4. The most important speech, from the point of view of explaining the movie the way so many people are, is the one between Donnie and his teacher. Most importantly is the talk of paradoxes. Seriously - look that word up. Then do a search for "time travel" AND paradox. Other important things to remember out of this conversation are:
    "In order for the vessel to travel through time, it's got to find a portal, or in this case, a wormhole"
    "Well could these portals just appear anywhere? Anytime?"
    "I think that's highly unlikely. I think what you're talking about is uhm... an act of God".
    That's just four.
    Even if Frank is dead in the tangent universe it makes no sense whatsoever.

    Frank is dead because he saves Donnie. Helping Donnie is what got him killed. Not helping Donnie would of meant he lived as Donnie would of never left his bedroom and started the chain of events.

    Claiming that 'God' is controlling Frank to explain the plot is BS.

    Even without that though. The death of Donnie means nothing. The jet engine still kills him due to the destruction of the universe some days later, which means everyone is screwed anyway, and further means there is absolutly no reason for 90% of the movie.
    If you read that "the Philosophy of Time Travel" link I posted, you'll see a line that says...
    "If a Tangent Universe occurs, it will be highly unstable, sustaining itself for no longer than several weeks.

    Eventually it will collapse upon itself, forming a black hole within the Primary Universe capable of destroying all existence."

    Donnie was chosen to 'repair' the rip between the tangent/primary universe. Frank was chosen to 'guide' Donnie.
    I have absolutely no problem with this. I don't see what the problem is.
    Hardly. The only explanation I've seen looks like one given by a Schizophrenic. :p
    We're dealing with Time Travel.
    I'm not a brainiac.
    And I'm pretty sure you're not either (hey - no offense).
    Of course it's gonna sound odd.
    But if you had no problem with the physics of time travel in Back to the Future (which were pretty flawed), why have trouble with them in Donnie Darko (which are infinitely better thought-out.

    Has this become a pissing contest?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Originally posted by Hobbes
    I thought the movie sucked as it had more plot holes then swiss cheese.

    First up, The demon rabbit. If the demon rabbit was from the future then it would of had a clue to actually leave Donnie in his bedroom to begin with and save himself the hassle of having his brain blown out.

    Second, The jet engine falls in both instances, which means that regardless if Donnie lives or dies the destruction of the world is still coming, so staying in his bedroom is just giving his main squeeze an extra couple of hours of life and letting some sicko get away from being arrested.

    So really there was no point to the movie.

    Emmm, I think there is a point to the film, you just seemed to have missed it entirely.....

    The film has an awful lot of religious references and undertones, mostly towards matters of faith & fate.

    The "plot holes" are there if you take the meaning literally, but jesus as a sci-fi fan you must realise the idea of time travel pretty much goes hand in hand with paradoxes (which is what the film is).

    The writers, state that the film is supposed to be open to multiple interpretations and different people will take different things from it. There is no "definitive right interpretation".

    This seems to be the case with many different people I talk to about it. Personally, I thought that Frank was there to show Donnie, that there are worse things than dying alone. Whether or not Frank was a messanger for god or whether the whole film was just a hallucination/precognition caused by Donnie not taking his medication(see the cut scenes on the DVD many of which give greater insight to the plot) up until his untimely death is another matter.

    Its a love or hate film, either you see the subtleties and want to discuss them or you dismiss it as pointless drivel is down to the individual person I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    This is the first of the DD threads ive read cos i only saw the movie a while ago and i dont like looking at spoilers (They are there for a reason obey and some of us dont un-spoil them:P. Part of the reason i dont read this forum that much is because of spoiler morons - no offense :) )

    I actually have sympathy for both protaganists in this discussion, Obeys interpretations make sense to me and Hobbes reservations match my initial ones.

    I think it can be summed up with a quote from the link obey posted.
    Perhaps the only fault of this movie is that Richard Kelly made it too complicated for its own good. None of the above explanation could not have been created without the facilitation of the pamphlet about time travel. Even so, it is a good movie.


    This is perfectly correct. The film tries to be too clever to the detriment of the initial viewing. I agree to a certain extent with Bombidol in that first and foremost a film MUST have entertainment value (and im not talking bruckheimer entertainment here). Maybe it was because i was tired when i watched it but while most of the underlying themes of the movie were apparent by the end there was not a lot of satisfactory closure on certain plotlines that needed closure.

    It was a good film though and i enjoyed it, I just felt that i HAD to watch it again to understand important elements and i dont think a viewer needs to have that feeling after a film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    This is the first of the DD threads ive read cos i only saw the movie a while ago and i dont like looking at spoilers (They are there for a reason obey and some of us dont un-spoil them:P. Part of the reason i dont read this forum that much is because of spoiler morons - no offense :) )
    My problem with spoilers lies in the fact that it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion about a film without them, unless your idea of "reasonable discussion" is limited to "I liked this film", "Yeah, it was good", "No, I didn't like it", "I did", "I saw it yesterday!". Of course, this is all a lot what this forum has become, and part of the reason I'm rarely reading what goes on any more.

    Beyond this, there is the fact that people seem to have no problem with people discussing other, slightly older movies openly and without spoilers. Is there a statute of limitations on movies? An expiry date on when spoilers are necessary? Remember - DD is now a two-year-old movie.

    But anyway - moot points. Anywhere on this thread where I've written something of my own, that isn't openly available elsewhere on boards, I've used spoilers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Sorry obey, i didnt make that clear, it wasnt a dig at you. Was more aimed at the general rabble who start threads with strange titles and post "I liked it" followed by spoilers :)

    Basically if theres a thread about a movie i havent seen, i dont open it, hence i only replied to this lately. so i take your point about old movies and am fine with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Saw it at last on Saturday (my replacement copy was sent by Amazon!).

    I enjoyed it but then again I love quirky films, I agree it is definately not to everyones taste and it did try and be too clever in places.

    One question thou
    What else has the actor who played "Frank" been in, its really bugging me !!

    Gandalf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭davej




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Ahha Independence Day :)

    Ta daveg

    Gandalf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 donnie


    does anyone have the track listing to teh soundtrack. i have the song madworld by Gary Jules, but the rest of the soundtrack is pretty good...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Originally posted by donnie
    does anyone have the track listing to teh soundtrack. i have the song madworld by Gary Jules, but the rest of the soundtrack is pretty good...
    i love that song, it's put to use so well in the movie.
    the original tears for fears version is well worth a d/l as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭pauldeehan


    Have to agree with Obey on this one. The article he quoted pretty much matches my interpretation (though isn't Gretchen one of the manipulated dead as well?)

    I really enjoyed the film because it can be looked at from a load of different angles. It has some excellent moments, can be funny and scary and has a lot to say about society. Frankly I felt the film was more about teenage alienation than time travel.

    But I believe it was a good film. And you have to work to understand it rather than get spoonfed the facts which I think is the reason a lot of people didn't like it.

    "My Dad has emotional problems."
    "Oh really? Me too! What kind does your dad have?"

    Classic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Caesar_Bojangle


    I watched it yesterday, i thought it was quite good. Whilst i was on the main menu i noticed some easter eggs, which most of you probably know about already.

    1)On the main menu, scroll down to "Special Features" and press right once. You'll be shown a short deleted scene, followed by the scene again with commentary from the director. During this second segment, a little icon of Frank will appear on screen. Press enter/okay on your remote to see one further deleted scene, again followed by the scene again with commentary.

    2)Go to Special features.
    go to commentaries and subtitles
    highlight spanish subtitles
    press right
    this should give you access to a deleted scene.
    when rabbit appears during first deleted scene with commentary, press enter and this will give you access to another deleted scene


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