400 ADSL orders

nahdoic

Talking to an eircom sales rep this morning.

400 orders for ADSL were apparently placed last Friday.

That's not bad for the first day it was made available. Maybe there's hope for this country yet.

I wonder how many of those 400 were IOFFL members, maybe all of them ?

JohnK

Well I certainly wasn't among them. It’s still a bit too expensive and restrictive for my liking.

flamegrill

I heard closer to 2.5k, but maybe that was calls alone just for adsl :-)

Still a great pickup.

Paul

Snaga

I tried

Them : Im sorry youve failed our 3.5k and 5k tests, we cant offer you any broadband.

Me <incredulous> : But....I can see my exchange from my bedroom window, its 400 meters that way, surely the cable cant be over 5k to my house (~3k I could accept)

Them : its an outright fail im afraid.

Me : Are those canned tests or did I actually fail because of distance? (i.e. could it be anything else)

Them : it doesnt tell me why, just that we cant offer you any broadband services at all ever ever.

Me : aww geees.

Samba

Would be interesting to hear from somone who had it installed within the past few days, what their latency is like

Yelnahs

im gettin it over the next day or 2, ill let yahs know what its like when i get it

I dont know what people are complaining abOOt, 1.50Euro a day! u can scrape that off the floor.

clansman

just reading the thread and i was woundering whats the difference between adsl and dsl. dsl is as far as i know 512 DL and 256 UL, whats adsl.....

DSLinAbsentia

The A is for asymmetric, meaning you can have a different download and upload speeds, i.e., 512kb down/128kb up.

Most folks tend discuss ADSL/DSL and RADSL (Residential) as synonymns.

^CwAzY^

Why are people ordering this when esats product is €5 cheaper and a bigger cap?

Yelnahs

convenience, thats why for me

bk

Originally posted by DSLinAbsentia
The A is for asymmetric, meaning you can have a different download and upload speeds, i.e., 512kb down/128kb up.

Most folks tend discuss ADSL/DSL and RADSL (Residential) as synonymns.

RADSL actually stands for Rate Adaptive Digital Subscriber Line.

DSL or xDSL is the generic name for a whole family or range of similar technologies that are based on the same idea, but have different characteristics (upload/download speed, maximum distance from the exchange allowed, etc.)

ADSL, RADSL, VDSL, SHDSL, etc. are all members of the DSL family.

Eircoms older DSL service is ADSL, the new EUR 54 product is RADSL.

clansman

so adsl is not a fixed rate i.e. it could be 256 DL one day and 512 the next,,, whats the cost for adsl, would dsl not be better? (if the price is right)

Dustaz

Hmm, might be better off asking these question on the Broadband forum clansman.

To recap, both ADSL and RADSL are types of DSL. There are many types of DSL. Only RADSL and ADSL are available from eircom.


ASDL is 512/128. full stop.

RADSL is up to 512/128. Because RADSL serves houses further away from the exchange, the max speed drops the longer it has to go. Hence, you may only be able to get a max speed of 256k if your quite far away from your exchange.

There is contention issues. Please search the forum for 'Contention ratio', its all explained

cgarvey

Originally posted by Dustaz
ASDL is 512/128. full stop.

Huh? I have 1024/256 ADSL? Or are you just talking residential focussed DSL here?

.cg

idnb

Originally posted by ^CwAzY^
Why are people ordering this when esats product is €5 cheaper and a bigger cap?

http://register.iol.ie/broadband/pricing.html

They don't mention anything about a self install option and the modem remains the property of Esat :eek: . Not a good deal in my opinion.

Dustaz

Argh

I was just highlighting the difference between ADSL and RADSL in a simple way

ADSL goes up to 7 megs i think?

Seth Brundle

Originally posted by ^CwAzY^
Why are people ordering this when esats product is €5 cheaper and a bigger cap?

Esat have less locations than Eircon - Im in Leixlip and it won't be there with Esat until the end of the year (according to helpdesk) whereas Eircon is already there AFAIK.

MadKevo

Originally posted by kbannon
Esat have less locations than Eircon - Im in Leixlip and it won't be there with Esat until the end of the year (according to helpdesk) whereas Eircon is already there AFAIK.

Check your number again on IOL broadband link...

Seth Brundle

checked last night

cgarvey

Originally posted by Dustaz
Argh

I was just highlighting the difference between ADSL and RADSL in a simple way

Phew, can put the eircom conspiracy theory to rest again.. no wait ...

.cg

patrickmooney

Originally posted by kbannon
Esat have less locations than Eircon - Im in Leixlip and it won't be there with Esat until the end of the year (according to helpdesk) whereas Eircon is already there AFAIK.

Yes Esat BT DSL has less locations but IOL Broadband is a different product, aimed at the residental market. Esat BT are reselling the the Eircom DSL access, so in theory it should be available on all their exchanges too.

Seth Brundle

iol broadband are not in the area then (but when i rang ESAT BT they informed me that it was the iol option I wanted!)

Paulw

IOL broadband is Esat broadband. It's just using a different brandname to try and sell it.

So the equipment is different and belongs to Esat. So what ? I know it's a USB modem, but it works fine and gives better response, slightly lower cost and higher cap.

What's the problem ???

Seth Brundle

I believe that Esat is for business whereas IOL Broadband is for domestic - correct?
On another note, I tried ringing Esat BT (rather than IOL) today @ 5pm and was told by the answering machine that their offices are closed - opening hours are from 9:30 to 7 !?!?!?!

Nitrox

Eircon just called me today asking if i would be interested in their new starter RADSL, told them that thanks but no thanks, no reason to go in detail with why, just asked if it was even available in the IFSC area, he said it would be from Friday, so finally something happening on northside ;o)

shinzon

i have my suspicions that esat are rip off artists, always have always will, i have netsmart at the mo and my last bill from them was a 153 euros, wherever the hell they got that from i dont know considering its only bloody 30 euro a month

also the horror stories im hearing about trying to get the bloody res dsl in from esat would turn me off getting anything from them, only the other day a good friend of mine told me she is still waiting 3 months later to get esat dsl in after ordering the thing before christmas, only to be told that they have no record of her ever ordering the damn thing in the first place argghh

and the last reason i wont be signing up for esat bb is that theres no self install option

im in the rat trap im afraid

shin

MarVeL

I was quite interested in the ESAT package when I heard that they were reselling the eircom offer. They previously weren't available in my area or I might have got the 256k package.

However when I checked the website it said that it wasn't available. Thinking they haven't updated the site I tried to ring the 1800 number and (4 goes and 25+ minutes on hold later) I got told that they aren't available in my area (Lucan) and have no plans to be in the next 3 months. Seeing as how I have been told (albeit by eircom) that DSL is now available I queried this further and was informed that they are not reselling the eircom package.

Anyone have a number I can call to get the truth (or failing that Una's number ) ?

Jorinn

Originally posted by patrickmooney
Yes Esat BT DSL has less locations but IOL Broadband is a different product, aimed at the residental market. Esat BT are reselling the the Eircom DSL access, so in theory it should be available on all their exchanges too.

Well according to IOL webby I can't get it off them, despite having had eircom ADSL for a few months. I HAve everything installed and it works grand, don't see why it would suddenly be unavaileable to me.

bkehoe

IOL Broadband is strange. This is Esats package only, no reselling of Eircom's dsl, right? Its showing that its available in our office in New-Ross, and previously Esat said they werent rolling out in New-Ross. Eircom certainly are, and I'm going to be getting the 1MBit unlimited package, but if Esat also are then I know who I'll be going with! Will be ringing them tomorrow, but wanted to make sure before wasting my time on hold!

Brendan